Has Guardians of the Galaxy already won August

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL

I don't know about you guys but I could care less about Guardians of the Galaxy.

"That means you DO care.....at least a little."

I get way people are pumped (OOOOO MARVEL UNIVERSE OOOOO) but even with a fun cast (I love John C. Reilly ya dingus) I just can't get interested in this.

It's August 8th and TMNT all the way.

Nothing to do with "ooooh Marvel Universe, oooooh" for me. I just think it looks fun and Rocket cracks me up. The 12% plan scene, the "it's a bomb" scene are my two favorite clips from the trailers. And I dig the total opposite vibe they're using with it having the retro soundtrack rather than the big epic score or modern rock from other Marvel films. The fact that it will be further setting up Avengers 3 and the build up for Marvel Phase 3 is just icing on the cake.

But opinions and all that. If you just can't see anything fun or entertaining in Guardians, then okay.

[Leolead]

I'm not digging the retro feel to this movie lol, i'm also not digging the 60s-esque Sci fi vibe, i'm also not digging Starlord's helmet (why the heck is his hair out? in the comics it was a full helmet) as you guys know, i'm still not digging Gamora's design.

But besides that, i'm really excited for this movie, imo it captures the tone of the comics quite nicely, Drax vs Ronan is something i have to see! and... our first (second technical) good look at Thanos! (AKA: MCU Big bad) so Guardians was always on my most anticipated movies, it opens the door for other cosmic Marvel movies (Nova anyone?)

but TMNT is more important to me, one of my favorite franchises, this is a potential new series! We'll finally get to see Leather head, Baxter Stockman (hopefully) i just want this series to make it.

So bring on August 1st, and 8th!

[Glados]

Originally Posted by Leolead

I'm not digging the retro feel to this movie lol, i'm also not digging the 60s-esque Sci fi vibe, i'm also not digging Starlord's helmet (why the heck is his hair out? in the comics it was a full helmet) as you guys know, i'm still not digging Gamora's design.

But besides that, i'm really excited for this movie, imo it captures the tone of the comics quite nicely, Drax vs Ronan is something i have to see! and... our first (second technical) good look at Thanos! (AKA: MCU Big bad) so Guardians was always on my most anticipated movies, it opens the door for other cosmic Marvel movies (Nova anyone?)

but TMNT is more important to me, one of my favorite franchises, this is a potential new series! We'll finally get to see Leather head, Baxter Stockman (hopefully) i just want this series to make it.

So bring on August 1st, and 8th!

I'm really not digging the "retro stuff" in it either, it seems very random and pasted on! Just some old tunes and Starlord making some quick random references to 90's stuff. It honestly feels weird and I don't understand what this universe is supposed to be... I also am not impressed by the CGI. It's totally fine, but I don't get people saying "The turtles don't need human features to emote with subtlety, just look at Rocket!" I think a lot of Rocket's emoting comes from the voice actor, watching him with the sound off is very underwhelming...

BUT, I actually think it looks like a fun popcorn movie and I actually kind of want to see it now! Dunno if it'll be in the theaters yet, but it might happen on a boring rainy day...

[Xiewin]

Originally Posted by Glados

I'm really not digging the "retro stuff" in it either, it seems very random and pasted on! Just some old tunes and Starlord making some quick random references to 90's stuff. It honestly feels weird and I don't understand what this universe is supposed to be... I also am not impressed by the CGI. It's totally fine, but I don't get people saying "The turtles don't need human features to emote with subtlety, just look at Rocket!" I think a lot of Rocket's emoting comes from the voice actor, watching him with the sound off is very underwhelming...

BUT, I actually think it looks like a fun popcorn movie and I actually kind of want to see it now! Dunno if it'll be in the theaters yet, but it might happen on a boring rainy day...

Rocket's looks pretty weird when he's talking. His mouth just moves up and down and the voice actor's lines don't seem to fit correctly.

[Glados]

Originally Posted by Xiewin

Rocket's looks pretty weird when he's talking. His mouth just moves up and down and the voice actor's lines don't seem to fit correctly.

Glad I'm not the only one getting that vibe. He's honestly not impressively animated to me, and I'm not saying that to "insult" the movie, it's truly how I see it. He's probably gonna be a fun character, tho.

[Xiewin]

Originally Posted by Glados

Glad I'm not the only one getting that vibe. He's honestly not impressively animated to me, and I'm not saying that to "insult" the movie, it's truly how I see it. He's probably gonna be a fun character, tho.

Rocket is the only character im looking forward to in this movie. Everything else about it is really bland. I don't like the jokes, the cgi is a bit strange, and I really dislike Christ Pratt. I was never really a huge marvel fan, so it wouldn't surprise me if I ended up hating this movie.

[Leolead]

Well one thing that makes Rocket different from the Turtles, is the fact that he isn't physically mutated, he's an experiment, the only difference in appearance between him and a normal Raccoon, is his skeletal structure, Rocket can walk, move his arms (like a human) because of his cybernectic skelaton, he just has a human like skeleton, so people need to quit saying " The Turtle have Lips why doesn't Rocket have lips then?" Rocket and the Turtles are very different in origin.
So it wouldn't have made any sense whatsoeverer to give Rocket human like facial features as he isn't MUTATED!! we don't even know the full effects of the Mutagen in this series yet, for all we know the Mutagen could have human Dna spliced into it.

so please people quit comparing Rocket to the Turtles.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by Leolead

so please people quit comparing Rocket to the Turtles.

not to start nothing...but thats exactly what you just did in your post



people will compare, you cant tell them not to and expect them to listen...and the comparison isnt coming from the in world explanations,or in universe explanation whether its nature,mutation,genetic experiments, etc

its coming from the design choices..when people say "why do the turtles need lips and human features if Rocket,Groot,Smaug,Caesar, etc dont need them and emote just well"

its because of design..these are characters who could have been designed with human features to "Emote better like humans" but they weren't,because they are not human..they stay true to how they always looked and didn't need to be rendered a new way to "Emote better"

Even Caesar from Planet of the Apes..the most Human out o fall usually listed, still keeps his ape facial features, in a movie where they easily could have used the Human feature to show the Apes becoming to Dominate Species

this battles been beaten to death, some of us are just not ok with Human looking turtles, it takes away from them being..you know Turtles, and yes it may seem small but its shut a lot of us off to the movie over a simple design choice and what i still call the easy way out

[Leolead]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

not to start nothing...but thats exactly what you just did in your post



people will compare, you cant tell them not to and expect them to listen...and the comparison isnt coming from the in world explanations,or in universe explanation whether its nature,mutation,genetic experiments, etc

its coming from the design choices..when people say "why do the turtles need lips and human features if Rocket,Groot,Smaug,Caesar, etc dont need them and emote just well"

its because of design..these are characters who could have been designed with human features to "Emote better like humans" but they weren't,because they are not human..they stay true to how they always looked and didn't need to be rendered a new way to "Emote better"

Even Caesar from Planet of the Apes..the most Human out o fall usually listed, still keeps his ape facial features, in a movie where they easily could have used the Human feature to show the Apes becoming to Dominate Species

this battles been beaten to death, some of us are just not ok with Human looking turtles, it takes away from them being..you know Turtles, and yes it may seem small but its shut a lot of us off to the movie over a simple design choice and what i still call the easy way out

Rocket doesn't have lips because he's an unmutated Raccoon period. and Groot does have a human-ish faciel structures, and if i really wanted to make a fuss about, Groot in this movie appears way more human (Way more) than he does in the comics

Spoiler:

So again the reason these characters are designed this way is because i'm sure it has something to do with the story

[Glados]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

not to start nothing...but thats exactly what you just did in your post



people will compare, you cant tell them not to and expect them to listen...and the comparison isnt coming from the in world explanations,or in universe explanation whether its nature,mutation,genetic experiments, etc

its coming from the design choices..when people say "why do the turtles need lips and human features if rocket,groot,smaug,ceaser, etc dont need them and emote just well"

its because of design..these are characters who could have been designed with human features to "Emote better like humans" but they arnt,becauese they arnt human..they stay true to how they always looked and didn't need to be rendered a new why to "Emote better"

Even Ceaser from Planet of the Apes..the most Human out o fall usually listed, still keeps his ape facial features, in a movie where they easily could have used the Human feature to show the Apes becoming to Dominate Species

this battles been beaten to death, some of us are just not ok with Human looking turtles, it takes away from them being..you know Turtles, and yes it may seem small but its shut a lot of us off to the movie over a simple design choice and what i still call the easy way out

To be fair... an ape already looks VERY human in the face! And I don't think Smaug emotes with much subtlety either, his expressions are mainly "big"... but he's a big-ass menacing dragon, so it fits! But we're just gonna have to settle for having different opinions, cause these discussions never end and mostly all these characters are actually good for what they are and there's no point comparing too much. (should have known I would start this debate again with my comment, but it wasn't my intention or wish)

[Glados]

Originally Posted by Leolead

Well one thing that makes Rocket different from the Turtles, is the fact that he isn't physically mutated, he's an experiment

Wait, he's an experiment? I didn't know much about the GOOTG beforehand, but I was under the impression that he was part of an alien race that just happens to look like raccoon's from earth.

[Leolead]

Nope, he was an average Raccoon, when aliens took him and did illegal experiments on him, it's actually very accurate to the comics, in a way.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by Leolead

Nope, he was an average Raccoon, when aliens took him and did illegal experiments on him, it's actually very accurate to the comics, in a way.

Technically, he wasn't from Earth. According to Wikipedia, he's from the "Halfworld in the Keystone Quadrant, an abandoned colony for the mentally ill where the animal companions were genetically manipulated to grant them human level intelligence and bipedal body construction for many to become caretakers of the inmates".

[Leolead]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Technically, he wasn't from Earth. According to Wikipedia, he's from the "Halfworld in the Keystone Quadrant, an abandoned colony for the mentally ill where the animal companions were genetically manipulated to grant them human level intelligence and bipedal body construction for many to become caretakers of the inmates".

Well it is accurate in a way..

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by Leolead

So again the reason these characters are designed this way is because i'm sure it has something to do with the story

we don't know that though...and again not to beat another horse..i wouldn't expect some sort of in movie explanation from a "Bay" film, or any movie..details like that are usually skipped over hoping to never realize they dont mention it

but thats exactly it ..no one is comparing the " In movie world reasons", they are comparing the design choices of the animator and character designers

think of it this way..Bat Nipples and Bat Ass, why on earth did Batman need those? there is no in movie reason given, it was the designers choice, and its a pretty big "Huh moment" today we make fun of it and laugh, but they were made that way in favor of the old Sleek Bat suits with out the Human anatomy..im just happy Bat Buttocks is where they stopped

i still enjoy the movies for other reasons but those design choices are pretty jarring and never given explanation

im not trying to rain on your parade i am just saying..telling people to stop comparing will never work..people compare everything to something else

Batman vs Avengers
GOTG vs TMNT
Ironman vs Man of Steel
ETC

we compare what we like to something we dont

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

"That means you DO care.....at least a little."

Ha! You got me then.

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

Nothing to do with "ooooh Marvel Universe, oooooh" for me. I just think it looks fun and Rocket cracks me up. The 12% plan scene, the "it's a bomb" scene are my two favorite clips from the trailers. And I dig the total opposite vibe they're using with it having the retro soundtrack rather than the big epic score or modern rock from other Marvel films. The fact that it will be further setting up Avengers 3 and the build up for Marvel Phase 3 is just icing on the cake.

But opinions and all that. If you just can't see anything fun or entertaining in Guardians, then okay.

All valid points. Perhaps it's just this one friend I have who won't stop talking about the film that has been rubbing me the wrong way...either way, like you said I just can't seem to find any enjoyment from the trailers and TV spots.

[Leolead]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

we don't know that though...and again not to beat another horse..i wouldn't expect some sort of in movie explanation from a "Bay" film, or any movie..details like that are usually skipped over hoping to never realize they dont mention it

but thats exactly it ..no one is comparing the " In movie world reasons", they are comparing the design choices of the animator and character designers

think of it this way..Bat Nipples and Bat Ass, why on earth did Batman need those? there is no in movie reason given, it was the designers choice, and its a pretty big "Huh moment" today we make fun of it and laugh, but they were made that why in favor of the old Sleek Bat suits with out the Human anatomy..im just happy Bat Behind is where they stopped

i still enjoy the movies for other reasons but those design choices are pretty jarring and never given explanation

im not trying to rain on your parade i am just saying..telling people to stop comparing will never work..people compare everything to something else

Batman vs Avengers
GOTG vs TMNT
Ironman vs Man of Steel
ETC

we compare what we like to something we dont

Fair enough, i understand Boston no hard feeilings.. but what the heck were they thinking with those bat nipples, i mean understand the organic/greek body thing behind it but

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by Leolead

Fair enough, i understand Boston no hard feeilings.. but what the heck were they thinking with those bat nipples, i mean understand the organic/greek body thing behind it but

my brother once said thats where he keeps his sonar senors

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL

Ha! You got me then.



All valid points. Perhaps it's just this one friend I have who won't stop talking about the film that has been rubbing me the wrong way...either way, like you said I just can't seem to find any enjoyment from the trailers and TV spots.

I didn't see Firefly until probably 4 years after it was off the air because I was tired of hearing about it before I had seen a single episode. I've never watched Dr. Who because I hate it before I've seen a single clip. I hate Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series and, despite buying them, I haven't read the full Harry Potter series, even though fantasy is my most preferred genre for reading. Why? Because I worked at a bookstore when they were coming out and I just...burned out on them second hand.

Sometimes, when people are oversaturating you with hype, it's best to just ignore it, wait for it to cool off, then watch it when you can go into it and take it in with less preconceived annoyances.

If you saw Guardians next year on blu ray you might find you love it because the constant gushing praise has died off and you haven't been bombarded with it building up to your viewing whereas watching it now, you may be more inclined to dislike it just from the fact that others have annoyed you about it. If that makes sense.

[zodiac brave]

or you can also just not care what anyone else says and make up your mind for yourself.