First time watching this... (also my first post)

[JTH]

Welcome to board Nathan, hope you enjoy yourself.

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Says the dude with a 2007 movie avatar.

Says the person with a Pokémon avatar? I think you're in the wrong forum...

[nathanbofficial]

Thanks for the welcome guys

I gave the 2003 series a good go, I watched the first Series and half of the second but it just wasn't for me. I also disliked Turtles Forever based on the fact that the writers seem to become arrogant when it came to judging their own work against others. But hey, that's for a different discussion, right?

[ssjup81]

You know, imo, out of all if the incarnations of Shredder I've been exposed to, I will admit that Nick Shredder is one of the most interesting, mainly because he isn't sane.

Man, wait until later. Especially the most recent season 2 ep.

You should talk about the eps if you'd like. Check the talkback thread.

I'm glad I gave the show a chance finally, even if it was a couple of months ago. I was hooked and binge watched up to the point the show was at, at the time. Pizzaface.

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Says the dude with a 2007 movie avatar.

Says the one with a furry avatar.

My avatar marks the year I joined this forum 2007, and the tmnt movie associated with that time.

Originally Posted by nathanbofficial

Thanks for the welcome guys

I gave the 2003 series a good go, I watched the first Series and half of the second but it just wasn't for me. I also disliked Turtles Forever based on the fact that the writers seem to become arrogant when it came to judging their own work against others. But hey, that's for a different discussion, right?

Yes they were very arrogant and belittled the OT turtles like incompetent fools. But verily, karma bit their asses back. Now 2k3 turtles are never mentioned and treated as it has never existed by Nickelodeon. It's all references to OT (fly baxter, bebop and rocksteady, mutagen man, etc)and the movies (e.g. "Go ninja go", Rahzar, to name a few), never 2k3.

Maybe they will be referenced much much years later in the future (or maybe never at all, which is fine imo), but for now I'm content that justice is done.

[Tazi]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Now 2k3 turtles are never mentioned and treated as it has never existed by Nickelodeon. It's all references to OT (fly baxter, bebop and rocksteady, mutagen man, etc)and the movies (e.g. "Go ninja go", Rahzar, to name a few), never 2k3.

Except Karai being the adopted daughter of Shredder, the inclusion of Utroms (even if they now named as The Kraang, they have more to do with the Utroms then with Krang), Stockman being afro-'murican, Purple Dragons as a recurring street gang (non-japanese one, unlike in Mirage)...

[Electric]

Originally Posted by Tazi

Except Karai being the adopted daughter of Shredder, the inclusion of Utroms (even if they now named as The Kraang, they have more to do with the Utroms then with Krang), Stockman being afro-'murican, Purple Dragons as a recurring street gang (non-japanese one, unlike in Mirage)...

Yeah, but all of those have been taken a different direction. Not to say they weren't influenced by 2k3, but they're not directly from it.

I think what they're referring to is how in every interview with anyone on this show, someone alwats mentions the 80s show. How they a love it and are borrowing things from that. They even brought up the movies I believe, at some point. The only show they do not mention, ever, is 2k3. Whether they're borrowing from them or not, they do not mention it

[Tazi]

Originally Posted by ElectricN

Yeah, but all of those have been taken a different direction. Not to say they weren't influenced by 2k3, but they're not directly from it.

Rahzar, Mutagen Man, etc. are also taken to a different direction, so my argument still stands against his.

I think what they're referring to is how in every interview with anyone on this show, someone alwats mentions the 80s show. How they a love it and are borrowing things from that. They even brought up the movies I believe, at some point. The only show they do not mention, ever, is 2k3. Whether they're borrowing from them or not, they do not mention it

This has a lot to do with people who was kid at early '90s are building their careers now, including a big part of the staff. Likely. Mirage is also rarely mentoined, since it was never that much pop as the movie or the first cartoon.

[Electric]

Originally Posted by Tazi

Rahzar, Mutagen Man, etc. are also taken to a different direction, so my argument still stands

Think you're grasping at strings. Yes everything's taken a different direction, but the points you brought up aren't truly taken from just 2k3.

The kraang could definitely by argued that they're based off if krang, and not to mention, utrons were friendly where as the kraang are anything but. Stockman isn't even a point? A lot of incarnations have him being black? That's not owned by 2k3. As for Karai, I've never read the comics, but I'm sure one of them has Karai being adopted by shredder, so again not exclusive to 2k3.

A true part taken from 2k3 would be like having bishop or even Hun, who seems more likely a idw has even borrowed him.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by JTH

Says the person with a Pokémon avatar? I think you're in the wrong forum...

You even bothered to accent the E and still got it wrong! This ain't 1999 pal!

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Says the one with a furry avatar.

My avatar marks the year I joined this forum 2007, and the tmnt movie associated with that time.

I think somebody's not understanding my point and instead attaching unnecessary sentimental value to an awful movie!

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Hahhahaha NO. Nick is better if we're comparing Season 1-2 of both series.

Disagree entirely. IMO, TMNT 2k3 beats TMNT in almost every aspect.

[Electric]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

http://i.imgur.com/X22DFmN.png
You even bothered to accent the E and still got it wrong! This ain't 1999 pal!


http://i.imgur.com/TayGZzz.png
I think somebody's not understanding my point and instead attaching unnecessary sentimental value to an awful movie!

Gonna jump in on this one

I think somebody's unnecessarily being rude, despite the fact that they're the one who insulted an avatar first, and that fact that they're avatar has to do with a completely different series than tmnt. I think your attaching unneccessary awful shows into the tmnt forum.

Understand my point?

Anyways, back on topic...

I'll give credit to 2k3, the first 3 or 4 seasons were good. But IMO I think nicks first 2 seasons are a little better. Not to say they are, just I prefer them

[CombatColdCuts]

I love the new show. I just wish they would release the seasons on blu ray because I have missed a bunch of episodes and I can't find any place to watch them.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Yes they were very arrogant and belittled the OT turtles like incompetent fools. But verily, karma bit their asses back. Now 2k3 turtles are never mentioned and treated as it has never existed by Nickelodeon. It's all references to OT (fly baxter, bebop and rocksteady, mutagen man, etc)and the movies (e.g. "Go ninja go", Rahzar, to name a few), never 2k3.

Maybe they will be referenced much much years later in the future (or maybe never at all, which is fine imo), but for now I'm content that justice is done.

I'm also strongly betting they scrapped the whole idea of a Turtles-multiverse too, since that seemed to be 2k3's idea as well in Turtles Forever. I'm also strongly betting they scrapped the whole idea of a Turtles-multiverse too, since that seemed to be 2k3's idea as well in Turtles Forever. If you've noticed, the 80's show got called a 'dimension' and not 'universe' in MP/WQ, which is very telling as 'universe' would be more appropriate if a multiverse was still considered canon. I'm thinking that as fellow 80's fans TF burned them real bad too, and now they don't want anything to do with it, it's concepts, or 2k3.

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

http://i.imgur.com/X22DFmN.png
You even bothered to accent the E and still got it wrong! This ain't 1999 pal!

http://i.imgur.com/TayGZzz.png
I think somebody's not understanding my point and instead attaching unnecessary sentimental value to an awful movie!

I think someone needs to go back to kindergarten school to learn how to read and understand context; there's nothing sentimental about my avatar. It could be removed for all I care.

Don't forget to go pee-pee in the toilet and not in your pants. Of course you can bring your furry plush doll with you too.

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

I'm also strongly betting they scrapped the whole idea of a Turtles-multiverse too, since that seemed to be 2k3's idea as well in Turtles Forever. If you've noticed, the 80's show got called a 'dimension' and not 'universe' in MP/WQ, which is very telling as 'universe' would be more appropriate if a multiverse was still considered canon. I'm thinking that as fellow 80's fans TF burned them real bad too, and now they don't want anything to do with it, it's concepts, or 2k3.

Yeah, they could've glimpsed another dimension aside from OT, they could've glimpsed 2k3 dimension in Wormquake, but they didn't.

Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands?

Disagree entirely. IMO, TMNT 2k3 beats TMNT in almost every aspect.

Try and give me good episodes from Season 1-2 of 2k3 and I can counter it with Nick's. 2k12 > 2k3 ftw.

[CyberCubed]

The 4kids series wasn't just a great TMNT cartoon, it was one of the best action cartoons of the 2000's. Its amazing how good the show was when you think back to it. The show gets a little less memorable in its last two seasons but other than that it was one of the best shows ever made.

[TurFlytle]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

http://i.imgur.com/X22DFmN.png
You even bothered to accent the E and still got it wrong! This ain't 1999 pal!


http://i.imgur.com/TayGZzz.png
I think somebody's not understanding my point and instead attaching unnecessary sentimental value to an awful movie!

I agree with Shark_Blade and JTH.

1. Pokemon was in 1998, get your facts straight.

2. How was he attaching unnecessary sentimental value to it? He just had it as an avatar when he joined. Yet you have a Digimon avatar which you're showing value to.

Netkeeper, this is a stupid topic to argue about. People have different tastes in things and you get butthurt all of a sudden.

[TurFlytle]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The 4kids series wasn't just a great TMNT cartoon, it was one of the best action cartoons of the 2000's.

Says the guy who only grew up with Ninja Turtles.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Try and give me good episodes from Season 1-2 of 2k3 and I can counter it with Nick's. 2k12 > 2k3 ftw.

Things change > Rise of the Turtles Pt1

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by ElectricN

I think somebody's unnecessarily being rude

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Don't forget to go pee-pee in the toilet and not in your pants. Of course you can bring your furry plush doll with you too.

Oh good. You see, I'm very attached to my 2k3 Donatello plush.

Don't act like TMNT isn't a furry fandom. We're not above them in any way shape or form.

Originally Posted by TurFlytle

Pokemon was in 1998, get your facts straight.

But Digimon was 1999. Get your facts straight.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

But Digimon was 1999. Get your facts straight.

I thought I recognised your Avatar.