William the White Washed Shredder: Why We Should Learn Not to Assume

[Mega Man]

I remember people were really upset over a "white washed" Shredder. Well, it turns out Shredder was Japanese in this movie. So what should we learn from this?

*The internet is often full of horse manure.
*Some people like to cause controversy and make up lies.

Remember the 2012 end of the world rumor? Yeah, that was horse manure too.

So this is the last time I fall for some horse manure on the internet.

[Forneus]

Or they simply added incoherent scenes of a brand new Shredder, after the internet's reaction. Which only adds to the horribly incomprehensible patched together mess they released. Sacks was obviously supposed to be Shredder. But they simply axed the hell out of the film, and reshot so much that it's hilarious how scattered the movie turned out to be.

[Galactus]

Yeah it's internet's fault.

Not that Fichtner ever said he was playing the Shredder or anything.

[Radical Raph]

Originally Posted by Mega Man

I remember people were really upset over a "white washed" Shredder. Well, it turns out Shredder was Japanese in this movie. So what should we learn from this?

*The internet is often full of horse manure.
*Some people like to cause controversy and make up lies.

Remember the 2012 end of the world rumor? Yeah, that was horse manure too.

So this is the last time I fall for some horse manure on the internet.

That doesn't mean they didn't OBVIOUSLY shove Shredder in there with reshoots. Your post makes no sense as there were plenty of legitimate reasons to believe Fichtner was Shredder.

Oh and the movie sucked. Some of us need to raise our standards.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by Mega Man

I remember people were really upset over a "white washed" Shredder. Well, it turns out Shredder was Japanese in this movie. So what should we learn from this?

*The internet is often full of horse manure.
*Some people like to cause controversy and make up lies.

Remember the 2012 end of the world rumor? Yeah, that was horse manure too.

So this is the last time I fall for some horse manure on the internet.

Ha! As everyone else is pointing out, Eric Sachs was clearly supposed to be Shredder but bad PR had them shoot things really fast to ensure that Shredder is an asian. To assume that this was their plan all along is ******** and you're just making a fool of yourself.

Hell, even the actor PLAYING Shredder said the studio wouldn't tell him all the secrecy as to why they never announced anything about it. It's because they're just trying to cover their tracks.

http://www.movieweb.com/news/tohoru-...tles-exclusive

This thread is hilarious! Thanks for the laughs!

Originally Posted by Radical Raph

Oh and the movie sucked. Some of us need to raise our standards.

I think that's the one thing I find the most upsetting about people's overwhelming praises. There's some decent stuff in the film but overall, it's just so bland and not any good. I don't feel I have high standards when it comes to this movie, but it certainly seems like Paramount just laid a big turd on everyone's face and most people are okay with that. It's **** standards.

Originally Posted by Xav

Yup "make up lies" William Fichtner must have been lying when he said "I play Shredder". Or the makers of the video game must have been lying when they made Sacks shredder.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/att...3&d=1407471766
Yup, it was all lies made up by Fichtner and the makers of the video game.

Oh wow, I never even noticed this. This is embarrassing. This thread just got even better!

[Xav]

Yup "make up lies" William Fichtner must have been lying when he said "I play Shredder". Or the makers of the video game must have been lying when they made Sacks shredder.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/att...3&d=1407471766
Yup, it was all lies made up by Fichtner and the makers of the video game.

[Shark_Blade]

I believe William Fichtber intentionally misled people to hide the real villain or something along that line. I made mention of this before:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Yeah his early interview video back then when he got casted as Shredder was pretty underwhelming, he didn't elaborate much of why he wanted to play Shredder and such.

Now thinking back, I reckon he's keeping inside details from spoiling us heh. Sneaky.

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Found the video from last year. This was when he was first announced to "play as Shredder" or so we/interviewer thought.



See how "enthusiastic" he was lol. Conceal, don't feel, don't let them know..

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I believe William Fichtber intentionally misled people to hide the real villain or something along that line.

[Radical Raph]

Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL

Ha! As everyone else is pointing out, Eric Sachs was clearly supposed to be Shredder but bad PR had them shoot things really fast to ensure that Shredder is an asian. To assume that this was their plan all along is ******** and you're just making a fool of yourself.

Hell, even the actor PLAYING Shredder said the studio wouldn't tell him all the secrecy as to why they never announced anything about it. It's because they're just trying to cover their tracks.

http://www.movieweb.com/news/tohoru-...tles-exclusive

This thread is hilarious! Thanks for the laughs!



I think that's the one thing I find the most upsetting about people's overwhelming praises. There's some decent stuff in the film but overall, it's just so bland and not any good. I don't feel I have high standards when it comes to this movie, but it certainly seems like Paramount just laid a big turd on everyone's face and most people are okay with that. It's **** standards.



Oh wow, I never even noticed this. This is embarrassing. This thread just got even better!

It's like if you just put something resembling ninja turtles in a movie they'll automatically love it. And it's sad because that's basically what the studio was hoping for. They completely mishandled this entire franchise and everyone is okay with it because they finally got an updated turtles movie.

[NinjaPug]

I guess Platinum Dunes was right. People really are naive enough to believe their BS.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

I guess Platinum Dunes was right. People really are naive enough to believe their BS.

Originally Posted by Radical Raph

It's like if you just put something resembling ninja turtles in a movie they'll automatically love it. And it's sad because that's basically what the studio was hoping for. They completely mishandled this entire franchise and everyone is okay with it because they finally got an updated turtles movie.

Exactly. It's like when you've been wanting to go to your favorite restaurant and you've been thinking about it all week. Time goes by but you can never find the time to actually get there. So you wait and fantasize how awesome it will be once that moment arrives where you sit down and order. You get that and you're excited...you order you favorite food and the anticipation grows. The give you your food and for some reason, it tastes like crap. You can tell that whoever made your food, just slopped it together without any thought or care and it's taste is just downright horrible. It's terribly prepared and it's no way as good as the last time you had it, but you still eat it anyway because you've been thinking about it so much. So you still enjoy it in a way because it's your favorite food, but it doesn't taste anywhere near as good because whoever was making your food....didn't care enough to make it well.

That's what this movie is. A horribly prepared piece of garbage that people are eating. Me? I hated the taste and I want to send it back to the cook to tell them to make it again.

[Radical Raph]

Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL

Exactly. It's like when you've been wanting to go to your favorite restaurant and you've been thinking about it all week. Time goes by but you can never find the time to actually get there. So you wait and fantasize how awesome it will be once that moment arrives you sit down and order. You order you favorite food and the anticipation grows. The give you your food and for some reason, it tastes like crap. You can tell that whoever made your food, just slopped it together without any thought or care and it's taste is just downright horrible. It's terribly prepared and it's no way as good as the last time you had it, but you still eat it anyway because you've been thinking about it so much. So you still enjoy it in a way because it's your favorite food, but it doesn't taste anywhere near as good because whoever was making your food....didn't care enough to make it well.

That's what this movie is. A horribly prepared piece of garbage that people are eating. Me? I hated the taste and I want to send it back to the cook to tell them to make it again.

Amen. Platinum Dunes made a **** sandwich out of my favorite dish. The whole movie felt like one long toy commercial with blatant product placement. What a sad industry Hollywood has become.

[Forneus]

The sad part is that William Fichtner is a great actor and his character had the backstory and motivation. No TMNT universe is the same. The idea of an abandoned child, who used an ancient legend to build himself up as the Shredder was fine enough.

Yes, classic Oroku Saki is better, but now we have a nameless soulless husk of a character with no purpose. The whole film is so ephemeral that you can add scenes of a no-name man in almost empty looking sets and it still doesn't change the non-story. What a mess.

No Oroku Saki. No Hamato Yoshi. At least if Sacks wasn't ruined by the reshoots, we'd have an actual character as Shredder. No anymore. And that is a shame.

[MajorViolence]

Hahahahahahahahaha this thread exists.

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by Radical Raph

Amen. Platinum Dunes made a **** sandwich out of my favorite dish. The whole movie felt like one long toy commercial with blatant product placement. What a sad industry Hollywood has become.

This is nothing but a cash grab for PD - like all their movies. They don't give a crap about the quality of what they're putting out. They saw an IP that was popular enough that they could throw any piece of crap out there and make money off it. Truly is a shame but at least some studios actually care about the product they're putting out there while also looking to make money.

[IndigoErth]

William the White Washed Shredder: Why We Should Learn Not to Assume

Yeah... I don't think I'm gonna go for the "movie is infallible - fans/internet are evil and always wrong" view. People keep acting like the makers of this are infallible, while it's actually ok if they aren't entirely perfect with it.

It's not impossible that they decided to make that change in the movie. And really if they DID... I mean it's not wrong. It's wise of them to recognize that maybe it was a misstep that should not be made and for their own good to correct it. It's just stupid if they covered it up. They don't have to admit to when a change was made, they can go ahead and pretend it was done very very early in production if they want... but if they decided it was smart to change it, at least be honest.

[Radical Raph]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

This is nothing but a cash grab for PD - like all their movies. They don't give a crap about the quality of what they're putting out. They saw an IP that was popular enough that they could throw any piece of crap out there and make money off it. Truly is a shame but at least some studios actually care about the product they're putting out there while also looking to make money.

This was clearly a movie for idiots. And it is not the turtles movie I would introduce my kids to.

[Forneus]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

It's wise of them to recognize that maybe it was a misstep that should not be made and for their own good to correct it.

I am sorry but I don't understand this. I mean, yes Eric Sacks (Oroku Saki lol) wasn't Shredder. But somehow I don't think adding a completely nameless man without any character in the film as Shredder was better.

Just because the Shredder I always knew was asian, doesn't mean that adding a completely random asian man as Shredder is better than having an actual three-dimensional character as Shredder, even if it is Sacks.

It's all appearances. Like characterization and depth is not important, as long as it's vaguely feels like our childhood memories. Oroku Saki, the real Shredder WAS a Japanese ninja and the head of a ninja clan. Eric Sacks isn't any of that. But he felt like a character. He had a story. A meaning to him.

No-name man in the shadows, was nothing. Just an extra. No meat. No depth or soul, no meaning. It's like everything on the surface level, is more important than writing and depth IMO.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Originally Posted by Forneus

I am sorry but I don't understand this. I mean, yes Eric Sacks (Oroku Saki lol) wasn't Shredder. But somehow I don't think adding a completely nameless man without any character in the film as Shredder was better.

Just because the Shredder I always knew was asian, doesn't mean that adding a completely random asian man as Shredder is better than having an actual three-dimensional character as Shredder, even if it is Sacks.

It's all appearances. Like characterization and depth is not important, as long as it's vaguely feels like our childhood memories. Oroku Saki, the real Shredder WAS a Japanese ninja and the head of a ninja clan. Eric Sacks isn't any of that. But he felt like a character. He had a story. A meaning to him.

No-name man in the shadows, was nothing. Just an extra. No meat. No depth or soul, no meaning. It's like everything on the surface level, is more important than writing and depth IMO.

Yeah, I might not have been a fan of Sachs being Shredder overall in the film but at least I could say that it told it's own confident story.

I'm much more keen to appreciate an ambitious failure than a movie that doesn't even ****ing try.

[CyberCubed]

You guys should be thankful shredder is an Oriental.

If Shredder is not of the orient he is not Shredder.