Things that bug you about the 2014 movie... - Page 2

UGHShellshocked · 08-11-2014, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by I Crave Pizza No More

Yes! Another completely absurd moment! And it's symptomatic of one of the film's most irritating flaws: April is the main attraction. I mean, how intricately and uniquely she's tied to the TMNT's origin is annoying. We're supposed to believe that she had a role in their creation, and then by great coincidence 15 years later she's the first and only one to know of them?

I wouldn't mind if she would have killed off Sach's since her father was betrayed by him and would be a real good revenge plot but leave the big guy to The Turtles.

sgtfbomb · 08-11-2014, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by I Crave Pizza No More

Yes! Another completely absurd moment! And it's symptomatic of one of the film's most irritating flaws: April is the main attraction. I mean, how intricately and uniquely she's tied to the TMNT's origin is annoying. We're supposed to believe that she had a role in their creation, and then by great coincidence 15 years later she's the first and only one to know of them?

I think this is a remnant of the "Sacks is Shredder" concept. It might have resonated more in that version considering her connection.

Olmosa · 08-11-2014, 09:16 AM

I found it rather pointless and odd for April's dad to be drawing Japanese symbols in a book concerning "Project Renaissance." Why not Italian??

Also, at what point did the Turtles come across the symbol and decide to start using it as their 'calling card?'

Why does Splinter dress Japanese if he has NO ties to Japan other than finding a book about Ninjitsu. But of course, he's dressed like that before he finds the book.

Hamato Yoshi no longer exists in this incarnation of the Turtles.

The scarring on Shredder's face. What is the point is Splinter didn't cause it?

Why do Splinter and the Turtles has problems with the Shredder if there is no connection between the two? How does Splinter even know Shredder exists if Sacks is the one working in the lab?? Does Sacks talk all day about his awesome metal ninja master at work??

Why would Sacks let April film what appears to be obvious experimental testing on animals?

Why is Sacks so rich? He was a scientist and now he just hangs out at home all day.

*Ninjinister* · 08-11-2014, 09:36 AM

Um the Turtles were been red-eared sliders in Mirage, guys. It's actually the most accurate thing about the film.

UGHShellshocked · 08-11-2014, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Olmosa

Why does Splinter dress Japanese if he has NO ties to Japan other than finding a book about Ninjitsu. But of course, he's dressed like that before he finds the book.

Hamato Yoshi no longer exists in this incarnation of the Turtles.

I really hope that they are saving it for the 2nd movie and have it be about Splinter's "Splintered Memories" and he unlocks past life memories of Yoshi

The scarring on Shredder's face. What is the point is Splinter didn't cause it?

Why do Splinter and the Turtles has problems with the Shredder if there is no connection between the two? How does Splinter even know Shredder exists if Sacks is the one working in the lab?? Does Sacks talk all day about his awesome metal ninja master at work??

Why would Sacks let April film what appears to be obvious experimental testing on animals?

Why is Sacks so rich? He was a scientist and now he just hangs out at home all day.

Owner of a pharmaceutical company does good business and makes a lot of money I guess.

*Candy Kappa* · 08-11-2014, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

THe are read eared sliders in a few versions, that doesn't mean that's what they have to be in every version. Heck, I like IDW'S sea-turtles-esque versions best.

It's never specified that they are sea turtles, considering Duncan did draw them with flippers, as their living are was more fit for fresh water turtles as seat turtles do not bask and only goes on land to lay eggs. And Eastman's sketch of the pages, the turtles do not have flippers.

If anything they could be pig-nosed turtles, a fresh water turtle with true flippers like a sea turtle. Although pig-noses don't bask on land either.

1984TMNT · 08-11-2014, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Spidergreg

1. In the opening, we were told the foot clan were called the foot clan because they stomp on people....

2. They used Red Ear Sliders as baby turtles. RES are neither tortoise nor turtles. They are terrapins.

In layman terms,
Turtle - sea
Tortoise - land
Terrapins - hybrid (both)

Not that I find it a big deal, but didn't Sacks call them "box turtles"? I definitely think they were designed after box turtles, regardless. Especially when considering the shape of their shells in the design.

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Originally Posted by Kas

4. Megan Fox's acting.

etc.

I strongly feel that people are hating on Fox the way they automatically hate on Bay.....Fox was surprisingly decent/good in this movie. I found her convincing most of the time and so did my Wife - who is hyper critical of bad or unbelievable acting. Obviously, everyone interprets things differently, but I really felt that the acting in this movie by everyone, overall, was quite good.

massakre · 08-11-2014, 11:39 AM

The story and editing just seemed like really... "off".. It looks like a movie that had been created to be one thing and turned out to be something totally different. Thats what concerns me more than anything else.

However, some of this could be fixed with a sequel done properly and addressing some of these gaping plot holes. Bring in Casey (please not Shia Lebouf lol) and let him aid the Turtles as they go up against Stockman or Bebop and Rocksteady..

Just please dont "Amazing Spider Man 2" the sequel

~~Traximus~~ · 08-11-2014, 11:54 AM

The only major problem with the movie is that look isn't consistent with the tone of the movie.

This is clearly a kids movie, and a simple one at that. Bit looks like a generic comic book movie, even though it's taking its cues from the cartoon. It looks to dark and serious.

They should've made it more colorful and given some more personality to the city.

syk_skillz · 08-11-2014, 12:32 PM

The only way I could think of having Hamato Yoshi as part of the origin is if in the sequal it is revealed that he was April's father and she was adopted... Also although he was shot by Sachs, the killing blow was giving by Saki/Shreddar...Could have it as he also had a bond with Splinter and the turtles but mostly Splinter and he remembers it but just never had it mentioned in the first movie. Stupid, I know but only way I can think of having that traditional rivalry set for this universe....

SwiftNinjaFox · 08-11-2014, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by syk_skillz

The only way I could think of having Hamato Yoshi as part of the origin is if in the sequal it is revealed that he was April's father and she was adopted... Also although he was shot by Sachs, the killing blow was giving by Saki/Shreddar...Could have it as he also had a bond with Splinter and the turtles but mostly Splinter and he remembers it but just never had it mentioned in the first movie. Stupid, I know but only way I can think of having that traditional rivalry set for this universe....

I think the best bet is to go further with IDW's reincarnation story.

Spoiler:

They didn't have much development behind Oroku Saki (who is never called Saki in the film either), so they have a blank book to fill that in with whatever backstory they want.

They could go all out with the feudal Japan Yoshi/Saki with Yoshi reincarnated and Saki in stasis thanks to Utrom technology or go mystical with Kitsune.

Have to admit, part of me would like to see Alopex along with Bebop, Rocksteady, and Karai. The other part of me is terrified of the idea of that.

*Guitar_Raph* · 08-11-2014, 01:56 PM

Raph didn't drive a motorcycle, thus ending the motorcycle streak (Next Mutation, 2K3, Fast Forward, 2K7 Movie-Night Watcher, Back To The Sewers & Nickelodeon).

1984TMNT · 08-11-2014, 02:15 PM

has this already been posted?

http://io9.com/tmnt-movie-makers-rev...u-s-1617636460

Good insight from the film makers on how they pulled ideas/content from all incarnations and worked closely with Eastman throughout to get his blessing on all of it.

syk_skillz · 08-11-2014, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

I think the best bet is to go further with IDW's reincarnation story.

Spoiler:

They didn't have much development behind Oroku Saki (who is never called Saki in the film either), so they have a blank book to fill that in with whatever backstory they want.

They could go all out with the feudal Japan Yoshi/Saki with Yoshi reincarnated and Saki in stasis thanks to Utrom technology or go mystical with Kitsune.

Have to admit, part of me would like to see Alopex along with Bebop, Rocksteady, and Karai. The other part of me is terrified of the idea of that.

I see stupid religious parents having a problem with the reincarnation idea that IDW used which why I don't see it being translated to film to avoid backlash due to it.

The True Shredder · 08-11-2014, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by syk_skillz

I see stupid religious parents having a problem with the reincarnation idea that IDW used which why I don't see it being translated to film to avoid backlash due to it.

That's wrong what you said. Read what you said again.

Nick Kell · 08-11-2014, 03:58 PM

April works for a TV station, not a newspaper. Why was she taking still pictures? Low on memory?

ryukenden · 08-11-2014, 04:03 PM

Did not like the Foot being a paramilitary group and not ninjas.

Karai being a mere henchwoman

There is nothing menacing about Iron Man Shredder.

I could complain about the excessive accessories the Turtles wear but I have to swallow my pride.

scratch · 08-11-2014, 05:01 PM

Well, lets see?

They did away with the Splinter/Shredder connection/backstory which made the showdown between Splinter/Shredder silly and generally the Turtles gripe with the Foot unwarranted.

The whole big plan about the Poison gas and MUTAGEN being used as a cure and the fact that the extracted mutagen was destroyed but the turtles immediately had some on hand to save splinter who already had mutagen in his blood......Shouldn't he have just healed himself?

It was obvious that the film was chopped and spliced, the Eric Sacks character had no point, he should have at least been named Baxter Stockman. I suppose they did not do that in order to set things up so he could take over as a new shredder in the sequel..........

Total miss-use under appreciation of Whoopi Goldberg and Will Arnett

Where did the Shell raiser come from? Is it really wise for the turtles to be riding around in a gaudy, obvious recognizable van in NYC....What if they get pulled over?

When was Aprils dad shot? Did I miss that? I thought he burned up? But Sacks claimed he killed him.

I could go on much longer but it kind of makes me mad if I dwell on it. Happy thoughts!

scratch · 08-11-2014, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 1984TMNT

has this already been posted?

http://io9.com/tmnt-movie-makers-rev...u-s-1617636460

Good insight from the film makers on how they pulled ideas/content from all incarnations and worked closely with Eastman throughout to get his blessing on all of it.

"Liebesman: I think the movie gets a lot of **** when people say, "Oh, I can't believe that happened. Oh, that's convenient." No. We did our research. We did what you fans wanted us to do and went and looked through every ****in' creation story and picked what we thought was really great in some of them. With the permission of the creator. "

FAIL

Xiewin · 08-11-2014, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by scratch

"Liebesman: I think the movie gets a lot of **** when people say, "Oh, I can't believe that happened. Oh, that's convenient." No. We did our research. We did what you fans wanted us to do and went and looked through every ****in' creation story and picked what we thought was really great in some of them. With the permission of the creator. "

FAIL

Liebesman is an ass.

08-11-2014, 09:36 AM	#24
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	Um the Turtles were been red-eared sliders in Mirage, guys. It's actually the most accurate thing about the film. __________________

08-11-2014, 12:32 PM	#30
syk_skillz Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2004 Location: Flint, Michigan Posts: 248	The only way I could think of having Hamato Yoshi as part of the origin is if in the sequal it is revealed that he was April's father and she was adopted... Also although he was shot by Sachs, the killing blow was giving by Saki/Shreddar...Could have it as he also had a bond with Splinter and the turtles but mostly Splinter and he remembers it but just never had it mentioned in the first movie. Stupid, I know but only way I can think of having that traditional rivalry set for this universe.... __________________

08-11-2014, 01:56 PM	#32
Guitar_Raph Superhero musician Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 2,191	Raph didn't drive a motorcycle, thus ending the motorcycle streak (Next Mutation, 2K3, Fast Forward, 2K7 Movie-Night Watcher, Back To The Sewers & Nickelodeon). __________________ Mikey drums with nunchucks!

08-11-2014, 02:15 PM	#33
1984TMNT Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 566	has this already been posted? http://io9.com/tmnt-movie-makers-rev...u-s-1617636460 Good insight from the film makers on how they pulled ideas/content from all incarnations and worked closely with Eastman throughout to get his blessing on all of it. __________________ Try to rely on YOUR, Turtle Power!

08-11-2014, 09:16 AM	#23
Olmosa Random Punk Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Fort Walton Beach, FL Posts: 43	I found it rather pointless and odd for April's dad to be drawing Japanese symbols in a book concerning "Project Renaissance." Why not Italian?? Also, at what point did the Turtles come across the symbol and decide to start using it as their 'calling card?' Why does Splinter dress Japanese if he has NO ties to Japan other than finding a book about Ninjitsu. But of course, he's dressed like that before he finds the book. Hamato Yoshi no longer exists in this incarnation of the Turtles. The scarring on Shredder's face. What is the point is Splinter didn't cause it? Why do Splinter and the Turtles has problems with the Shredder if there is no connection between the two? How does Splinter even know Shredder exists if Sacks is the one working in the lab?? Does Sacks talk all day about his awesome metal ninja master at work?? Why would Sacks let April film what appears to be obvious experimental testing on animals? Why is Sacks so rich? He was a scientist and now he just hangs out at home all day.

08-11-2014, 11:39 AM	#28
massakre Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Indiana Posts: 182	The story and editing just seemed like really... "off".. It looks like a movie that had been created to be one thing and turned out to be something totally different. Thats what concerns me more than anything else. However, some of this could be fixed with a sequel done properly and addressing some of these gaping plot holes. Bring in Casey (please not Shia Lebouf lol) and let him aid the Turtles as they go up against Stockman or Bebop and Rocksteady.. Just please dont "Amazing Spider Man 2" the sequel

08-11-2014, 11:54 AM	#29
~~Traximus~~ Banned Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 90	The only major problem with the movie is that look isn't consistent with the tone of the movie. This is clearly a kids movie, and a simple one at that. Bit looks like a generic comic book movie, even though it's taking its cues from the cartoon. It looks to dark and serious. They should've made it more colorful and given some more personality to the city.

08-11-2014, 03:58 PM	#36
Nick Kell Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 118	April works for a TV station, not a newspaper. Why was she taking still pictures? Low on memory?

08-11-2014, 04:03 PM	#37
ryukenden Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 383	Did not like the Foot being a paramilitary group and not ninjas. Karai being a mere henchwoman There is nothing menacing about Iron Man Shredder. I could complain about the excessive accessories the Turtles wear but I have to swallow my pride.

08-11-2014, 05:01 PM	#38
scratch Mouser Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 11	Well, lets see? They did away with the Splinter/Shredder connection/backstory which made the showdown between Splinter/Shredder silly and generally the Turtles gripe with the Foot unwarranted. The whole big plan about the Poison gas and MUTAGEN being used as a cure and the fact that the extracted mutagen was destroyed but the turtles immediately had some on hand to save splinter who already had mutagen in his blood......Shouldn't he have just healed himself? It was obvious that the film was chopped and spliced, the Eric Sacks character had no point, he should have at least been named Baxter Stockman. I suppose they did not do that in order to set things up so he could take over as a new shredder in the sequel.......... Total miss-use under appreciation of Whoopi Goldberg and Will Arnett Where did the Shell raiser come from? Is it really wise for the turtles to be riding around in a gaudy, obvious recognizable van in NYC....What if they get pulled over? When was Aprils dad shot? Did I miss that? I thought he burned up? But Sacks claimed he killed him. I could go on much longer but it kind of makes me mad if I dwell on it. Happy thoughts!