Green People

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 05-25-2003, 09:23 PM

The latest TMNT ep. reminded me of a true story I once read. It was in the encyclopedia of paranormal phenomenon.
In the early 1900s eastern Europe (I think Russia or Ukraine but I'm not sure) , two children, a boy and a girl, were found that had green skin. They were roughly around 7 years old. They spoke only in a language that was unrecognizable to ANYONE. It was not a known language!
The Boy died one year later, but the Girl grew-up, lost her green color, and learned to speak the local language. She also was very sexually promicuous!
When asked about her past, she'd speak of an underground city, where her whole race of green people dwelled! But, the city was never found. Kinda makes ya think, doesn't it?

*Kid Icarus* · 05-25-2003, 09:44 PM

Could be Atlantis. No telling what living with out sun for thousands of years would do to the genes of humans.

*That Matt Guy* · 05-26-2003, 06:06 AM

I studied this story and few others a few years back. It was in England I believe. I think it's more myth than fact anyway. It's just like the stories about children being found in forests living with wolf packs and such.

**Karpo_007** · 05-26-2003, 06:15 AM

Therre are childer that have bee raised by wolfs. But if they ar fdound to late, they never learn to be human.

*That Matt Guy* · 05-26-2003, 11:08 AM

Yeah I have read a few true accounts about wild children being found living with animals. I went a dug out my book on unexplained stories, and here is the actual story of "The Green Children":

The tale of the green children dates from the middle of the 12th century, in the realm of either King Stephen or his successor, King Henry II. In Suffolk, England, according to medieval chroniclers, two green children, weeping in consolably, were found wandering in a field. Seized by reapers, they were taken to the nearest village, Woolpit, and held in captivity at the home of Sir Richard de Calne where local people came to gape.

According to William of Newburgh, the children were clad in “garments of strange color and unknown materials.” They could speak no English and refused all food offered to them. A few days later, on the brink of starvation, they brought “beans cut off or torn from stalks,” wrote Abbot Ralph of Coggeshall, who allegedly had the story from de Calne himself. The children “broke open the beanstalks not the pod or shell of the beans, evidently supposing that the beans were contained in the hollows of the stalks. But not finding beans in the stalks they began to weep, which, when the bystanders noticed they opened the shells and showed them the beans themselves. Whereupon, with great joyfulness, they ate beans for a long time, entirely, and would touch no other food.”

Soon the children were baptized, and nit long afterwards the boy weakened and died. The girl learned to eat other foods and was restored both to health and to normal skin color. She learned to speak English and took employment in service to a knight and his family. She “was rather loose and wanton in her conduct,” Ralph of Coggeshall wrote.

Asked about her native country, “she asserted that the inhabitants, and all that they had in that country, were of green color; and that they saw no sun, but enjoyed a degree of light like what is after sunset. Being asked how she came into this country with the aforesaid boy, she replied, that as they were following their flocks they came to a certain cavern, until they came to it’s mouth. When they came out of it, they were struck senseless by the excessive light of the sun, and the unusual temperature of the air; and they thus lay for a long time. Being terrified by the noise of those who came on them, they wished to fly, but they could not find the entrance of the cavern before they were caught.”

In William of Newburgh’s account, the children said their country was called St. Martin’s Land, It’s people were Christians. There was no sun there, but across a broad river a bright, shining land could be seen. Eventually the woman married and reportedly lived for years at Lenna in Suffolk.

Newburgh remarked, “Although the thing is asserted by many, yet I have long been in doubt about the matter, deeming it ridiculous to credit a thing supported by no rational foundation, or at least one of a mysterious character; yet, in the end, I was so overwhelmed by the weight of so many competent witnesses that I have been compelled to believe and wonder over a matter I was unable to comprehend and unravel by the powers of my intellect.” A modern writer, British folklorist Katharine Briggs, says, “This is one of those curiously convincing and realistic fairy anecdotes which are occasionally to be found in the medieval chronicles.”

Another recent chronicler, Paul Harris, speculates that the children were not aliens from another realm but simply lost, undernourished children who had wandered into flint mines in the vicinity of Thetford Forest, near the village of Fordham St. Martin. “Perhaps from the twilight of the thick woodlands the children could see a less forested and therefore sunnier land across the river Lark,” he writes. They may have spoken in an English dialect “unintelligible to the insular 12th Century farmworkers of Woolpit.”

*JameO* · 05-26-2003, 11:31 AM

Very interesting. Makes you think....Thanks for the story.

**HorseTechie** · 05-26-2003, 12:17 PM

Hmmm.. fascinating indeed!

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 05-26-2003, 12:40 PM

Thanks for posting the full details Matt. It's been awhile since I read it and many details escaped me.

**Karpo_007** · 05-26-2003, 01:15 PM

intresting story.

*Stone Ill* · 05-26-2003, 01:33 PM

Very. I've never heard about it untill now.

Pepzi · 05-27-2003, 06:00 AM

wow ive seen some thing intresting today, my day is complete!

*Kameko* · 05-27-2003, 05:52 PM

Weirdness. Never heard of it either, but fascinating, even if it is just an elaborate myth.

*The Defibrillator* · 05-27-2003, 05:54 PM

I love stories like this. ya never know if they are true or not!

05-25-2003, 09:23 PM	#1
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	Green People The latest TMNT ep. reminded me of a true story I once read. It was in the encyclopedia of paranormal phenomenon. In the early 1900s eastern Europe (I think Russia or Ukraine but I'm not sure) , two children, a boy and a girl, were found that had green skin. They were roughly around 7 years old. They spoke only in a language that was unrecognizable to ANYONE. It was not a known language! The Boy died one year later, but the Girl grew-up, lost her green color, and learned to speak the local language. She also was very sexually promicuous! When asked about her past, she'd speak of an underground city, where her whole race of green people dwelled! But, the city was never found. Kinda makes ya think, doesn't it? __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

05-26-2003, 11:31 AM	#6
JameO Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,753	Very interesting. Makes you think....Thanks for the story. __________________ "Lie, Cheat & Steal, Atleast I'm Honest"

05-26-2003, 12:40 PM	#8
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	Thanks for posting the full details Matt. It's been awhile since I read it and many details escaped me. __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

05-27-2003, 06:00 AM	#11
Pepzi Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sewer Posts: 420	wow ive seen some thing intresting today, my day is complete! __________________

05-27-2003, 05:54 PM	#13
The Defibrillator Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dee Eff Dubble You Posts: 1,631	I love stories like this. ya never know if they are true or not! __________________ My newest signature.

05-25-2003, 09:44 PM	#2
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	Could be Atlantis. No telling what living with out sun for thousands of years would do to the genes of humans.

05-26-2003, 06:06 AM	#3
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	I studied this story and few others a few years back. It was in England I believe. I think it's more myth than fact anyway. It's just like the stories about children being found in forests living with wolf packs and such.

05-26-2003, 06:15 AM	#4
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Therre are childer that have bee raised by wolfs. But if they ar fdound to late, they never learn to be human.

05-26-2003, 11:08 AM	#5
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	Yeah I have read a few true accounts about wild children being found living with animals. I went a dug out my book on unexplained stories, and here is the actual story of "The Green Children": The tale of the green children dates from the middle of the 12th century, in the realm of either King Stephen or his successor, King Henry II. In Suffolk, England, according to medieval chroniclers, two green children, weeping in consolably, were found wandering in a field. Seized by reapers, they were taken to the nearest village, Woolpit, and held in captivity at the home of Sir Richard de Calne where local people came to gape. According to William of Newburgh, the children were clad in “garments of strange color and unknown materials.” They could speak no English and refused all food offered to them. A few days later, on the brink of starvation, they brought “beans cut off or torn from stalks,” wrote Abbot Ralph of Coggeshall, who allegedly had the story from de Calne himself. The children “broke open the beanstalks not the pod or shell of the beans, evidently supposing that the beans were contained in the hollows of the stalks. But not finding beans in the stalks they began to weep, which, when the bystanders noticed they opened the shells and showed them the beans themselves. Whereupon, with great joyfulness, they ate beans for a long time, entirely, and would touch no other food.” Soon the children were baptized, and nit long afterwards the boy weakened and died. The girl learned to eat other foods and was restored both to health and to normal skin color. She learned to speak English and took employment in service to a knight and his family. She “was rather loose and wanton in her conduct,” Ralph of Coggeshall wrote. Asked about her native country, “she asserted that the inhabitants, and all that they had in that country, were of green color; and that they saw no sun, but enjoyed a degree of light like what is after sunset. Being asked how she came into this country with the aforesaid boy, she replied, that as they were following their flocks they came to a certain cavern, until they came to it’s mouth. When they came out of it, they were struck senseless by the excessive light of the sun, and the unusual temperature of the air; and they thus lay for a long time. Being terrified by the noise of those who came on them, they wished to fly, but they could not find the entrance of the cavern before they were caught.” In William of Newburgh’s account, the children said their country was called St. Martin’s Land, It’s people were Christians. There was no sun there, but across a broad river a bright, shining land could be seen. Eventually the woman married and reportedly lived for years at Lenna in Suffolk. Newburgh remarked, “Although the thing is asserted by many, yet I have long been in doubt about the matter, deeming it ridiculous to credit a thing supported by no rational foundation, or at least one of a mysterious character; yet, in the end, I was so overwhelmed by the weight of so many competent witnesses that I have been compelled to believe and wonder over a matter I was unable to comprehend and unravel by the powers of my intellect.” A modern writer, British folklorist Katharine Briggs, says, “This is one of those curiously convincing and realistic fairy anecdotes which are occasionally to be found in the medieval chronicles.” Another recent chronicler, Paul Harris, speculates that the children were not aliens from another realm but simply lost, undernourished children who had wandered into flint mines in the vicinity of Thetford Forest, near the village of Fordham St. Martin. “Perhaps from the twilight of the thick woodlands the children could see a less forested and therefore sunnier land across the river Lark,” he writes. They may have spoken in an English dialect “unintelligible to the insular 12th Century farmworkers of Woolpit.”

05-26-2003, 12:17 PM	#7
HorseTechie Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,677	Hmmm.. fascinating indeed!

05-26-2003, 01:15 PM	#9
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	intresting story.

05-26-2003, 01:33 PM	#10
Stone Ill Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Burlington, Ontario Posts: 2,397	Very. I've never heard about it untill now.

05-27-2003, 05:52 PM	#12
Kameko Sister to the TMNT Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 2,756	Weirdness. Never heard of it either, but fascinating, even if it is just an elaborate myth.