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Old 10-08-2014, 12:21 PM   #21
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No, it doesn't need to pander to anyone, and it's probably best adding to the show in a manner that suits the storyline rather than looking forced... however diversity is nice and would be good to see them shore up the thin spots a bit over time.
I agree completely and I've enjoyed the female characters throughout the entire franchise (mostly comics) as much as the males.
However, what I DON'T enjoy are these cries of "the show mistreats women".
What an ill-founded, dumb argument that is...
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Old 10-08-2014, 12:36 PM   #22
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Although I was bothered with Ciro comments of portraying woman as only femme fatales and good girls, I only have a real problem with April. Karai is fine and I hope that she continues to be a interesting character and not be forgotten like Rahzar.
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Old 10-08-2014, 01:17 PM   #23
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I didn't have a problem with Ciro's comments because he's right that women can be portrayed that way a lot, and he probably didn't want to do that too much with this show. I like what he's doing so far, and I don't think anything bad will happen to Karai at all. She'l get cured eventually and things will go back to where they need to be. But I am curious as to if she'll show them that she can retain her human form as well because we only saw that once.
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Old 10-08-2014, 05:29 PM   #24
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I remember how people were so enamored with Rahzar but it only ended up going no where. It was like the writers themselves were bored with the character so they put shiny stickers on him to make him interesting.

This is what makes me worried about Karai. Her entire character was finding the truth and now that's done, what's there left to do but add stickers?
This. This is what you watchers should be worried about, in my humble opinion.

One of my greatest fears for season 3 is that they just leave Karai wandering around only showing up for 10 seconds an episode so everyone can go OH LOOK IT'S KARAI.

I can see the reason for not building on Rahzar as in the end he's just another of Shredder's henchmen, but Karai is far more than that.

I know you can say this of every season, but I believe S3 will be the time when we either start to worry about the decline of the show's overall quality or if we can breathe a sigh of relief. As for now, I'm excited for where they'll take the characters, the Turtles, Splinter, Shredder, Karai, all of them.

Also excited for the Krang plotline to be wrapped up (Ciro confirmed) and for them to begin building on something new.
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Old 10-08-2014, 11:46 PM   #25
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Also excited for the Krang plotline to be wrapped up (Ciro confirmed) and for them to begin building on something new.
Oh, he confirmed that, did he? The same Ciro who confirmed that the Karai and Apritello storyboards were completely fake?
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Old 10-09-2014, 01:48 AM   #26
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Oh, he confirmed that, did he? The same Ciro who confirmed that the Karai and Apritello storyboards were completely fake?
There's a big difference between trying to cover up a leak of a big plot point and outright confirming yourself that a plotline is being wrapped up.
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Old 10-09-2014, 01:57 AM   #27
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There's a big difference between trying to cover up a leak of a big plot point and outright confirming yourself that a plotline is being wrapped up.
This, seriously.
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:04 AM   #28
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There's a big difference between trying to cover up a leak of a big plot point and outright confirming yourself that a plotline is being wrapped up.
I second this. When are you guys going to get it through your heads that Ciro can't confirm leaked storyboards at the risk of spoiling the plot? It's common sense, people!
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Old 10-09-2014, 02:41 PM   #29
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Renae being April's mom seems a given, but I'm thinking Minae may very well be in the same position, what if she's Tang Shen?
That was my thought. I'd love to see her with a voice and in GCI. Yoshi too for that matter, since we've only seen them in b&w flashbacks or photos.

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This. This is what you watchers should be worried about, in my humble opinion.

One of my greatest fears for season 3 is that they just leave Karai wandering around only showing up for 10 seconds an episode so everyone can go OH LOOK IT'S KARAI.

I can see the reason for not building on Rahzar as in the end he's just another of Shredder's henchmen, but Karai is far more than that.

I know you can say this of every season, but I believe S3 will be the time when we either start to worry about the decline of the show's overall quality or if we can breathe a sigh of relief. As for now, I'm excited for where they'll take the characters, the Turtles, Splinter, Shredder, Karai, all of them.

Also excited for the Krang plotline to be wrapped up (Ciro confirmed) and for them to begin building on something new.
Honestly, I think that's what they are going to do for the most part with her. I think she could lend a helping hand and vanish and I think she will be the drive or motivation for a lot of the characters (Splinter/Leo/Shredder) but, I honestly, HONESTLY don't expect a happy ending for Karai until the series is about to end.
I can't see them throwing Karai into the mix, much like they didn't throw Slash in the mix. She'll be an ally from a distance I think through out most of season 3.
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Old 10-09-2014, 04:41 PM   #30
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Honestly, I think that's what they are going to do for the most part with her. I think she could lend a helping hand and vanish and I think she will be the drive or motivation for a lot of the characters (Splinter/Leo/Shredder) but, I honestly, HONESTLY don't expect a happy ending for Karai until the series is about to end.
I can't see them throwing Karai into the mix, much like they didn't throw Slash in the mix. She'll be an ally from a distance I think through out most of season 3.
I can say I'd be somewhat disappointed. It feels with that way that they went through this entire 'Karai is Splinter's daughter' awesome plotline just to realize at the end that they couldn't have Karai with the Turtles because it would make them too strong or something.

Only thing to do now is wait for tomorrow's panel and the rest of season 3. I'll stay optimistic but also critical as it comes along. Fun times ahead.
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There's a big difference between trying to cover up a leak of a big plot point and outright confirming yourself that a plotline is being wrapped up.
I'll believe it when I see it. With stuff coming out about April's mom, I'm expecting another season and a half to involve the Kraang somehow.
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Old 10-10-2014, 07:46 AM   #32
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Well, Ciro didn't say exactly when the plotline would be wrapped up. All he said was that it will eventually be wrapped up.
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Old 10-13-2014, 03:52 PM   #33
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Minae Noji- Portrayed Karai in the 2014 movie. So I have a few theories on her. 1) Karai's mutation possibly damaged her throat. 2) Doing the voice of a younger Karai. 3) Only voicing Karai's mutant form.
Production art has suggested the mutant form of Karai is called Kiba, like a split personality so you could well be right there.
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Old 10-13-2014, 04:53 PM   #34
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And if that's true, that would be awesome for her to have a different voice than her human form.
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:45 PM   #35
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Production art has suggested the mutant form of Karai is called Kiba, like a split personality so you could well be right there.
Is that a play on the word "cobra"? And if Karai gave that nickname to herself, Mikey won't take it kindly. Nicknaming mutants is his thing.
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Old 10-14-2014, 06:26 AM   #36
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Names usually mean something in TMNT so I googled Kiba.

According to Wikipedia, there's an anime called Kiba. It says that Kiba either means 'fang' if you use it as a full word. If you split it into two word Ki and Ba, it apparently means 'spiritual place'.
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I'm all for Minae Noji voicing Tang Shen.

Omg. What if Tang Shen turns out to be actually ALIVE?
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I think it's safe to bet that Renae is voicing April's Mom (Only makes sense).
As for Minae Noji I'm gonna predict Tang Shen in a flashback.
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I believe it was confirmed Renae is voicing April's mom. As for Tang Shen possibly being alive, that would be cool, but I highly doubt it based on the fire and what happened. I think she's going to stay dead and will only appear in a flashback if that.
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