Nick TMNT Season 2 Best Episode Tournament: T.L.M.o.B.S. vs. Kraang Conspiracy

*JTH* · 10-12-2014, 05:03 PM

Welcome back to the Nickelodeon Season 2 Best Episode Tournament. It's now time for Match Number 3. The First Match ended in a tie, the second match...not so much, but two winners did come out in the end.

Newtralized! ended up...Newtralized by the power of Zits!

And Plan 10 perhaps needs to try Plan 11 after getting squashed by The Good, The Bad, & Casey Jones.

Previous Poll & Thread here:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=49671

So let's get on with the next match. Like the first two, this is a 3 day open poll and votes will be private, unless you decide to post your choice of course.

Here's the Official Updated Tournament Bracket:
http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cf...455365&tclass=

Want to see where your favorite episodes are, check the official rankings here:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...3&postcount=19

This episode matchup is Seeds 12 vs. 21 in the rankings. Two April episodes duking it out, no booty shots included.

. Which are...

BUZZ BUZZ vs. DERP DERP

Breakdown of the two episodes:

The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman
Overall Seed - #12
Where JTH ranked this episode - #11

Important events that occurred in The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman:
1. Mutation of Baxter Stockman (DUH!)
2. Conformation of April's immunity to mutagen
3. Kirby O'Neil is cured...for a bit.

The Kraang Conspiracy
Overall Seed - #21
Where JTH ranked this episode - #24

Important events that occurred in The Kraang Conspiracy:
1. Conformation of The Kraang's use for April
2. Discovery of April's backstory
3. Debut of Jack Kurtzman

Winner Faces: #5 Seed Manhattan Project

Cast your vote, and remember...HAVE FUN!!!

*Warhorse* · 10-12-2014, 05:08 PM

Kraang Conspiracy. Baxter Stockman annoys me to no end, and I did like the beginning of KC when April was tagging along with the Turtles, despite Raph's despair.

*ssjup81* · 10-12-2014, 06:25 PM

I'm having a difficult time with this one. Both episodes had certain things that partially irked me, but the eps as a whole wasn't so bad.

The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman brought back Turflydle, and unlike the first time Mikey did this, this time around it didn't bother me and I liked how Mikey was teasing Raph. For me, anything with any of the turtles bonding or doing "sibling-like" things gets a plus in my book.

Baxter's mutation was very horror-movie like, but I was still a bit surprised they brought back Fly Baxter, but mainly because the reference would be lost on the kids of today. At least back in the 80s, the remake was done more recently. So yeah, the mutation was great, the design creepy, and his becoming so fly-like was really good.

I liked that joke with Leo and Casey. "Baxter, we don't want to hurt you..." *Casey throws something* "Well, Casey does." That type of humor always cracks me up.

Hm, I'm trying to remember what fully irked me about this episode in the first place. Oh!! Ace Duck! He couldn't make that happen! lol j/k Seriously, I forgot....Oh! I remember now! I hate the fact that no one mentioned Mutagen Man for this episode. It's like the writer's forgot, or Donnie wasn't sure how to even apply it to Timothy.

Oh, everyone trying to get the Mutagen was nice and fun to see for me and how determined April was to get her father back to normal and we did learn that April was immune to mutagen and why she's vital when creating retromutagen.

Other ep, I liked it too...but the pacing of the episode bugged me. I liked the addition of Kurtzman who was very knowledgeable of the Kraang and what they were up to, but it did make me suspicious of him too. I know he's a reporter, but he found out things that your average one shouldn't have been able to get unless he'd followed and looked into them for many years. He said he just started investigating "last year when the scientists started going missing". Nope, not buying it. He found all that information out in only a year? No no no, something is definitely up. He has to be connected.

I also liked the fact that April showed how determined she was to not ask for help whenever in trouble and showing off that redheaded trait of stubbornness. I also liked the part where Donnie got that cool look, and then slammed that fake April into the control panel thing to open the room they were trapped in. I also wish they'd used another way to differentiate real April from the fake ones, like maybe having her take out her hair ribbon...but I know CG is limited. Where'd she pull that fan from. She had no pockets and why would the Kraang have let her keep it anyway? When did they strip her down and change her clothes? Still feels like everything happened too fast.

So...I think I'll go with Lonely Mutation.

Darthknuxward · 10-13-2014, 07:39 AM

TLMOBS. It has a better cohesive story and just flows better. Stockman, Rahzar, and Donnie all get good development. And it's nice to see Retromutagen come into play. This fells like it was thought out and had a good conflict, even if it was an episode to introduce a new mutant and get rid of an old one.

The Kraang Conspiracy fells more like a bad fanfic than an actual episode of a show. Sure it's more original, but that doesn't make it better. It's a sloppy, unfocused mess that has too many twists and turns for its own good. Wait, did Shamalyan direct this?

*Shark_Blade* · 10-13-2014, 08:11 AM

Baxter of course, his mutation is pretty sad and traumatizing. Plus I love how they tied up April in a suggestive position.

evan2000 · 10-13-2014, 09:07 AM

The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman definitely! First the mutation of Baxter Stockman, a key villain in pretty much all TMNT universe. And then the de-mutation of Kirby O'Neil. Two major plot advances in one day! Eat it KC! EAT IT! HAHA! BOW CHIK-A BOW BOW!

Just listen to the audience reaction when Baxter Fly was revealed during SDCC 2013:

*snake* · 10-13-2014, 10:42 AM

LMOBS

I love that episode.

Aaronardo · 10-13-2014, 03:49 PM

I guess I'm the only one who actually kind of likes Kraang Conspiracy. Oh well.

Donnieangelo · 10-13-2014, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Baxter of course, his mutation is pretty sad and traumatizing. Plus I love how they tied up April in a suggestive position.

It seems that they really like showing April's "you know what".

Gunpowder · 10-13-2014, 04:06 PM

I voted Kraang Conspiracy because it was more innovative and satisfyingly creepy... But I think Lonely Mutation has this won. Oh well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTH

BUZZ BUZZ vs. DERP DERP

Clever.

*JTH* · 10-13-2014, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donnieangelo

It seems that they really like showing April's "you know what".

YOU MEAN THIS!?!?

Donnieangelo · 10-13-2014, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTH

YOU MEAN THIS!?!?

Yep, that's it!

*Shark_Blade* · 10-13-2014, 06:00 PM

*my Anaconda don't want none unless you got buns, hon!*

Gunpowder · 10-13-2014, 06:06 PM

She also had a nice shot in Mutagen Man Unleashed.

"I'm likin' what I see."

*Ninturtle* · 10-13-2014, 06:20 PM

I really hated the kraang conspiracy and thought it was the worst episode in the show and re watched it and didn't hate it so much but April Derp is an awful character and it felt very rushed .

*ssjup81* · 10-13-2014, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

*my Anaconda don't want none unless you got buns, hon!*

rofl!! And we know Casey likes back.

See, this is why I feel Donnie's liking of April is more innocent. Even when he was getting glances of April with Metalhead, he wasn't focusing on her body. He was focusing on her face going on about how wonderful and pretty she was. In other words, Casey comes across as the hormonal teenager, Donnie doesn't to me.

Casey was like, "I like what I see, Giggity!"

And he was pinching it when in April's body, so...

LeoRaph · 10-15-2014, 09:44 PM

The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman. Didn't really care much for Baxter being a fly again, I prefer 2K3's 'Many Mutilations & Upgrades of Baxter Stockman'

BUT it was still a good episode which had a good balance of comedy and drama, Donnie developed Retro Mutagen, nice seeing Rahzar again and loved the banter between Raph & Mikey.

View Poll Results: Better Episode
#12 The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman	27	77.14%
#21 The Kraang Conspiracy	8	22.86%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

10-13-2014, 07:39 AM	#4
Darthknuxward Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: The Depths of Karzahni Posts: 309	TLMOBS. It has a better cohesive story and just flows better. Stockman, Rahzar, and Donnie all get good development. And it's nice to see Retromutagen come into play. This fells like it was thought out and had a good conflict, even if it was an episode to introduce a new mutant and get rid of an old one. The Kraang Conspiracy fells more like a bad fanfic than an actual episode of a show. Sure it's more original, but that doesn't make it better. It's a sloppy, unfocused mess that has too many twists and turns for its own good. Wait, did Shamalyan direct this? __________________ Insane? I prefer the term "creative", but I guess there isn't much difference between the two in the end, is there? Quote: Originally posted by The True Shredder I give a rat's ass. I killed Master Splinter and will give you his rat's ass! Quote: Originally posted by snake WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN? FEEL MY FREEZE! I'm not quite dead.

10-13-2014, 09:07 AM	#6
evan2000 Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Malaysia Posts: 858	The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman definitely! First the mutation of Baxter Stockman, a key villain in pretty much all TMNT universe. And then the de-mutation of Kirby O'Neil. Two major plot advances in one day! Eat it KC! EAT IT! HAHA! BOW CHIK-A BOW BOW! Just listen to the audience reaction when Baxter Fly was revealed during SDCC 2013: Last edited by evan2000; 10-13-2014 at 10:34 AM.

10-13-2014, 03:49 PM	#8
Aaronardo Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 1,043	I guess I'm the only one who actually kind of likes Kraang Conspiracy. Oh well. __________________ "Shredder, you gotta listen to reason!" - Leonardo "Oh Turtles! Oh Turtles! Chew your gum properly." "If I miss this week's Kirby, heads are gonna roll." - Raphael "The Biosites have almost finished healing my flesh." - Shredder "Because we're takin' the heart and you're goin' to jail!" - Donatello

10-13-2014, 06:06 PM	#14
Gunpowder Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 715	She also had a nice shot in Mutagen Man Unleashed. "I'm likin' what I see." __________________ Jason Biggs was the best Leonardo.

10-12-2014, 05:03 PM	#1
JTH "ME" Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,660	Nick TMNT Season 2 Best Episode Tournament: T.L.M.o.B.S. vs. Kraang Conspiracy Welcome back to the Nickelodeon Season 2 Best Episode Tournament. It's now time for Match Number 3. The First Match ended in a tie, the second match...not so much, but two winners did come out in the end. Newtralized! ended up...Newtralized by the power of Zits! And Plan 10 perhaps needs to try Plan 11 after getting squashed by The Good, The Bad, & Casey Jones. Previous Poll & Thread here: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=49671 So let's get on with the next match. Like the first two, this is a 3 day open poll and votes will be private, unless you decide to post your choice of course. Here's the Official Updated Tournament Bracket: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cf...455365&tclass= Want to see where your favorite episodes are, check the official rankings here: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...3&postcount=19 This episode matchup is Seeds 12 vs. 21 in the rankings. Two April episodes duking it out, no booty shots included. . Which are... *BUZZ BUZZ vs. DERP DERP* Breakdown of the two episodes: *The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman* Overall Seed - #12 Where JTH ranked this episode - #11 Important events that occurred in The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman: 1. Mutation of Baxter Stockman (DUH!) 2. Conformation of April's immunity to mutagen 3. Kirby O'Neil is cured...for a bit. *The Kraang Conspiracy* Overall Seed - #21 Where JTH ranked this episode - #24 Important events that occurred in The Kraang Conspiracy: 1. Conformation of The Kraang's use for April 2. Discovery of April's backstory 3. Debut of Jack Kurtzman Winner Faces: #5 Seed Manhattan Project Cast your vote, and remember...HAVE FUN!!!

10-12-2014, 05:08 PM	#2
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	Kraang Conspiracy. Baxter Stockman annoys me to no end, and I did like the beginning of KC when April was tagging along with the Turtles, despite Raph's despair.

10-12-2014, 06:25 PM	#3
ssjup81 Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Central Virginia (Back in the US) Posts: 4,734	I'm having a difficult time with this one. Both episodes had certain things that partially irked me, but the eps as a whole wasn't so bad. The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman brought back Turflydle, and unlike the first time Mikey did this, this time around it didn't bother me and I liked how Mikey was teasing Raph. For me, anything with any of the turtles bonding or doing "sibling-like" things gets a plus in my book. Baxter's mutation was very horror-movie like, but I was still a bit surprised they brought back Fly Baxter, but mainly because the reference would be lost on the kids of today. At least back in the 80s, the remake was done more recently. So yeah, the mutation was great, the design creepy, and his becoming so fly-like was really good. I liked that joke with Leo and Casey. "Baxter, we don't want to hurt you..." Casey throws something "Well, Casey does." That type of humor always cracks me up. Hm, I'm trying to remember what fully irked me about this episode in the first place. Oh!! Ace Duck! He couldn't make that happen! lol j/k Seriously, I forgot....Oh! I remember now! I hate the fact that no one mentioned Mutagen Man for this episode. It's like the writer's forgot, or Donnie wasn't sure how to even apply it to Timothy. Oh, everyone trying to get the Mutagen was nice and fun to see for me and how determined April was to get her father back to normal and we did learn that April was immune to mutagen and why she's vital when creating retromutagen. Other ep, I liked it too...but the pacing of the episode bugged me. I liked the addition of Kurtzman who was very knowledgeable of the Kraang and what they were up to, but it did make me suspicious of him too. I know he's a reporter, but he found out things that your average one shouldn't have been able to get unless he'd followed and looked into them for many years. He said he just started investigating "last year when the scientists started going missing". Nope, not buying it. He found all that information out in only a year? No no no, something is definitely up. He has to be connected. I also liked the fact that April showed how determined she was to not ask for help whenever in trouble and showing off that redheaded trait of stubbornness. I also liked the part where Donnie got that cool look, and then slammed that fake April into the control panel thing to open the room they were trapped in. I also wish they'd used another way to differentiate real April from the fake ones, like maybe having her take out her hair ribbon...but I know CG is limited. Where'd she pull that fan from. She had no pockets and why would the Kraang have let her keep it anyway? When did they strip her down and change her clothes? Still feels like everything happened too fast. So...I think I'll go with Lonely Mutation.

10-13-2014, 08:11 AM	#5
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Baxter of course, his mutation is pretty sad and traumatizing. Plus I love how they tied up April in a suggestive position.

10-13-2014, 10:42 AM	#7
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	LMOBS I love that episode.

10-13-2014, 06:00 PM	#13
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	my Anaconda don't want none unless you got buns, hon!

10-13-2014, 06:20 PM	#15
Ninturtle Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2014 Location: Earth Posts: 1,534	I really hated the kraang conspiracy and thought it was the worst episode in the show and re watched it and didn't hate it so much but April Derp is an awful character and it felt very rushed .

10-15-2014, 09:44 PM	#17
LeoRaph Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Sydney Posts: 357	The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman. Didn't really care much for Baxter being a fly again, I prefer 2K3's 'Many Mutilations & Upgrades of Baxter Stockman' BUT it was still a good episode which had a good balance of comedy and drama, Donnie developed Retro Mutagen, nice seeing Rahzar again and loved the banter between Raph & Mikey.