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I think the 2nd and 3rd happened, you have to take into account that many years has passed, And the 2nd and 3rd film took place on a different island.
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I just really hope that Triceratops will finally get some respect this time. The first time he was sick, the second time he had all of 5 seconds of screen time and third time he was only mentioned.
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I don't think they need to discount 2 and 3 for that plot to make sense. It could easily be just another case of industrial hubris, where some company, or billionaire builds another dinosaur park, despite it being a bad idea.
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I'm hopeful that it won't be a stinker, even though I thought both the sequels totally failed to capture what made the original so great. I'm pretty basic - I couldn't care less who's in it, I just want the raptors to show up and scare the crap out of me like they did in the original. To me, they're by far the coolest dinosaur.
I haven't really been following the news on it too much - it looks like they're sticking with the more mottled greenish color skin tones for the raptors? I kind of preferred the more grey/brown look that they had in the original film, but I'll wait and see what they pull out of their hat.
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And I liked the 2nd and 3rd one, I liked the 2nd one the Most cause of that San Diego scene at the end, It was a fun scene.
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They've discovered that the velociraptor was far smaller than they thought in 1992, and was also covered in feathers. They might have to change the name of the 'raptor' in the new film, because there was a dinosaur similar to how it was depicted in the original film, but I can't remember its proper name.
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Human Dinosaur hybrids, huh? This is the first I heard of it.
.... or is it? I remember around the time the first movie came out, they had discovered Utahraptor, which was closer to the dimensions of the movie raptors' designs. Though I must admit, the raptors from the third movie were pretty amazing... ![]() I can't wait to see this. I only recently heard that they were actually in the productive process of actual dinosaurs and sets, so I've been looking around for stuff like crazy. But youtube is full of either fan predictions or fake trailers. |
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Yeah the Utahraptor was discovered before the first JP movie came out so it doesn't even make sense they'd change the name now. As far as feathers its controversial and I'm not happy but they decided to go with no feathers. The new trailer comes out in November so its not a long wait anymore, it'll only be a teaser so don't expect much. And yeah the human hybrid stuff was something that was in pre-production for a while but never got anywhere as did dozens of other pitches in the ten years of development hell between JP/// and JW actually began production.
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i myself also loved all of the Jurassic Park movies as well
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www.masraniglobal.com/main.html
Viral site for Jurassic World from the company that owns JW and JurassicWorld.com is also live as a "real" website for the park. (jurassicworldmovie.com is the website for the movie). The sites basically reveal the timeline and fit not only the sequels nicely but also incorporate the Telltale game with some references to it. The park has been operating for 10 years (at the time the movie comes out) without problems and they hint that they have something special planned for the 10th anniversary. Dr. Henry Wu will be back from the first movie. Trailer comes out in Thankgiving. |
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I only finally saw all three just recently and while the second and third weren't "bad" (just badly-written and thought-out), there are huge flaws with the JP story being turned into a franchise. Basically, based on the events of the first movie (and the ending of the second), you can't continue the story. Firstly, the entire idea behind breeding dinosaurs for a theme park has been proven beyond disastrous, so nobody should ever be in a hurry to replicate the "success" of the original scientists. And secondly, didn't the second one feature a dinosaur trashing large parts of San Francisco? HOW would anyone ever get the funding and the "A-OK" from the government - ANY government! - to not only continue producing dinosaurs, but to actually open up a fully-functional theme park FULL of them, as in this new movie? There's suspension of disbelief, and then there's "Everyone Is An Idiot". And the story of Jurassic Park ONLY continues past One movie if Everyone Is An Idiot. Everyone in the WORLD has to be a giant idiot if there's a fully-functioning theme park full of dinosaurs and nobody in the movie's universe thinks it can go wrong, to the point they actually build the park and it runs successfully for TEN YEARS. That's just bad storytelling. And it comes from the problem of Making Money; the first movie was a parable about Not Playing God, and it did it effectively; the second and third movies were about, "Dinosaurs Are Neat, And Also, Look What We Can Do With SFX You Guys!"
Since my wife is a huge fan we'll inevitably see it, but I didn't really like the last two and I just don't see how you can continue the story WITHOUT having to ignore anything based in reason or logic entirely. But I'm sure it will look great, which seems to be as high as they're aiming anyways. |
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The second one would've been fine if they'd just followed the book more closely, IMO. In the book, Dodgson from the first movie came back and was the main villain. Spielberg clipped most of the major action scenes from the novel but changed large portions of the rest of the content. That entire San Francisco tangent was pure Spielberg. As was the whole father/daughter thing with Malcolm and Kelly. And the infamous death-by-acrobatics scene.
The novel had a very interesting sub-plot where it explored the ramifications of the dinosaurs (in particular, the raptors) not having had adults to learn normal social behaviors from, comparing their intra-aggressive behavior to the learned (and cooperative) behavior of pack-hunting African super-predators.
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My opinions of the sequels:
TLW:JP - Ambitious movie that doesn't deliver, it has a great premise but it can't live up to it so it fails. The movie has some great moments which are ruined by small things like the acrobatics raptor scene and the T-Rex in San Diego. Still I like the movie it just fails to capitalize on all the great stuff it has. JP/// - Not ambitious at all, its a basic premise but unlike TLW it delivers what it set out to do so while not moving the story forward a lot it at least does the things it tries right. I don't particularly like the ending/last 5 minutes of the film though. Both sequels have flaws but I can overlook them, of course they don't live up to the original but its hard because the original tells a story and completes it, the sequels can only do so much but I still enjoy more stories from that universe even if none will ever be as good as the one that sets the whole thing up. So yeah I like the sequels but to a regular fan I'd only recommend the first one as a must see movie and only the sequels if they want to see more dinosaurs. I think Jurassic World will actually be a better movie than TLW and /// but it also won't be as good as the original it just can't be topped (unless we had a reboot based only on the book) we'll see next year. Quote:
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