Batman V. Superman: Dawn Of Justice - Page 17

*CyberCubed* · 10-17-2014, 05:54 PM

There had better not be a girl Robin in the movie.

I'd rather see a 25 year old Tim Drake.

*NinjaPug* · 10-17-2014, 06:20 PM

I know they've said they were using a lot of The Dark Knight Returns as a big influence in this movie but putting Carrie Kelley in it surprises me for some reason.

I like the casting even though Malone is a good bit older than the character in TDKR.

*TigerClaw* · 10-17-2014, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Robin may be appearing in the movie, and just like The Dark Knight Returns, will be a girl: http://comicbook.com/2014/10/17/robi...man-lex-lutho/

There been two Female Robins, Stephanie Brown was the other.

*TurtleTitan97* · 10-17-2014, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

There been two Female Robins, Stephanie Brown was the other.

I already knew that, dude.

*Slade* · 10-18-2014, 09:47 AM

I'm not sure I like all this being taken from The Dark Knight Returns. Still not sold on Batman being at it for years while remaining an urban legend.

I really hope this story is good.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 10-18-2014, 10:20 AM

Is putting any Robin in the movie such a good idea? I mean, we thought we were getting a Batman vs. Superman movie... now it's Batman, Superman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Cyborg - it's essentially just a Justice League movie now! If they really are trying to keep it as "Batman vs. Superman", they should cut out Robin completely, given the number of characters this film already has.

This movie is going to be a mess.

*MikeandRaph87* · 10-18-2014, 11:28 AM

Why not just make it simple, iconic, and bring in the best there was, the best there is, and the best there ever will be and I don't mean Bret Hart I mean Dick Grayson! Have him be in college and that will put a few years on Bruce that way. Going with any other Robin takes away my interest and it makes thing more complicated.

*Slade* · 10-18-2014, 11:50 AM

According to description, there's a center peice in the bat cave of a torn up Robin suit. If that's true, plus the fact that Batman has been at it for years, Grayson can't be Robin in this movie.

*NinjaPug* · 10-18-2014, 12:50 PM

Dick Grayson as Nightwing has been rumored to be in this for a while now

*CyberCubed* · 10-18-2014, 01:33 PM

So let me get this straight, this movie is rumored to have:

Superman
Batman
Nightwing
Robin
Wonder Woman
Cyborg
Aquaman

In addition to Lois Lane, Lex Luthor, and whatever other villains are in this movie?

And all these characters will be competing for screentime? WTF.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 10-18-2014, 02:09 PM

Exactly. There is no way the viewer can spend enough time with all these characters without sacrificing story (or making the film 5 hours long). It just won't work.

~~Sumac~~ · 10-18-2014, 03:29 PM

Same here.
Avengers had an advantage as there was no neccesity to establish characters and movie could concentrate on their interactions and adventures.

How are they gonna introduce so many heavy players in one movie and have some time for an actual plot is sort of mistery to me.

I am not saying "Marvel way - is the only way to do a shared universe", but from the look of it, BvS attempts to cram a lot of stuff in one single movie and I am just not sure how it can work, especially with Snyder at the helm.

And I am not digging idea of Batman being an urban legend after being active for a decade or so. It's just...strange.

*Turo602* · 10-18-2014, 08:55 PM

Why is everyone acting like these characters are sharing equal screen time? Superman was already established in Man of Steel and Zack Snyder has already made it clear that Batman needs no introduction. Everyone else doesn't really matter except for maybe Lex Luthor. If you're looking for development on these other characters, then you're going to have to wait 'til Justice League where Batman and Superman can take the back seat. But right now, this movie is mainly about Batman and Superman. Just because big names are being dropped doesn't mean they're important to this movie when they're probably just being used as cameos to hype up Justice League.

*Redeemer* · 10-19-2014, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Turo602

Why is everyone acting like these characters are sharing equal screen time? Superman was already established in Man of Steel and Zack Snyder has already made it clear that Batman needs no introduction. Everyone else doesn't really matter except for maybe Lex Luthor. If you're looking for development on these other characters, then you're going to have to wait 'til Justice League where Batman and Superman can take the back seat. But right now, this movie is mainly about Batman and Superman. Just because big names are being dropped doesn't mean they're important to this movie when they're probably just being used as cameos to hype up Justice League.

Have to agree Batman and Super-man need no introduction at this point. Introduce the villains and the rest.....well no one cares about them....Jk

~~Sumac~~ · 10-19-2014, 12:18 PM

Thing is if those other characters would be reduced to cameos, so what's the point of having them there in the first place?

I mean, how we gonna know, that this guy is a Aquaman or this girl is the Robin? If they randomly appear on screen out of nowhere, do some awesome stuff and dissappear, never to be mentioned again in the movie, it will be quite strange, to say the least. It will be like MK Anihhilation, which had many characters for the sake of having many characters in, with little to no build up or send-off.

*sdp* · 10-19-2014, 12:37 PM

The movie is about Superman and Batman, WW will have a smaller role in the movie. All the other heroes will only have a cameo to set them up, something only "fans" will get. Then in JL we will see them introduced properly instead of having them all crammed in int he JL movie for the first time, at least we had already seen them "visually" even if they weren't focused in the movie. Maybe not the best scenario but I think it will work and isn't necessarily worse than Marvel's rush two origin movies the year before Avengers. I mean the JL cartoon introduced the whole JL in the movie without a problem with us only "knowing Batman/Superman" as well.

~~Leo656~~ · 10-26-2014, 08:28 PM

It's just foreshadowing. More than half of those cameo characters are going to have, like, two minutes of screen time each, most likely, but will be hugely impactful in future films, by all accounts. People need to relax. Some of the news that has leaked out has been somewhat questionable, but none of it has been outright bad. Like some, I'm not fully sold on (possibly) Carrie being Robin, as it's not a DKR adaptation and sticking too closely to it is only going to mislead and eventually disappoint a certain segment of fans. But, I'm fairly confident they're "saving" Grayson for the eventual Batman "solo" film, which I'd wager will be set in the "past" of this Batman, with a younger actor in the lead role (keeping Affleck solely for the "Justice League"-related movies). Although he may still have a cameo as an adult in BvS, for all we know.

I mean, yeah, some stuff makes you kinda go "huh", but I swear people are over-thinking this one a fair bit. Just a gut feeling I have, I'unno.

*MikeandRaph87* · 10-26-2014, 08:36 PM

Why Carrie Kelly and not Barbara Gordon as Batgirl? Batgirl is in need of a redo on the big screen and it might be the opportunity needed.

If Robin does appear a college age Robin as in Dick Grayson would work. If Bruce had been Batman for close to three years and if Dick was 12 back then perhaps six to seven years later Bruce would be 35/36 and be considered a veteran to Superman's sophomore status of in or around 26? A full decade on Superman in this reality in enough.

*TurtleTitan97* · 10-26-2014, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Why Carrie Kelly and not Barbara Gordon as Batgirl? Batgirl is in need of a redo on the big screen and it might be the opportunity needed.

If Robin does appear a college age Robin as in Dick Grayson would work. If Bruce had been Batman for close to three years and if Dick was 12 back then perhaps six to seven years later Bruce would be 35/36 and be considered a veteran to Superman's sophomore status of in or around 26? A full decade on Superman in this reality in enough.

Well considering this movie is taking a lot of influence from The Dark Knight Returns, I'm not surprised they're possible going to have Carrie show up. That and, after Batman & Robin, it'll probably be awhile before we see Batgirl on the big screen again.

Personally, I'd be okay with the Carrie Kelly version of Robin appearing. I thought she was a good character.

*MikeandRaph87* · 10-26-2014, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Well considering this movie is taking a lot of influence from The Dark Knight Returns, I'm not surprised they're possible going to have Carrie show up. That and, after Batman & Robin, it'll probably be awhile before we see Batgirl on the big screen again.

Personally, I'd be okay with the Carrie Kelly version of Robin appearing. I thought she was a good character.

It has been awhile. It will have been three months shy of 19 years by the time the movie comes out that a blonde Barbara Wilson posed as Batgirl. Its time again for Batgirl to get a chance she deserves and I am talking about a redhead daughter of the police commissioner Barbara Gordon!

10-18-2014, 09:47 AM	#325
Slade god status Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,291	I'm not sure I like all this being taken from The Dark Knight Returns. Still not sold on Batman being at it for years while remaining an urban legend. I really hope this story is good. __________________ Do not concern yourself with what I've already done: rather tremble at the thought of what I am about to do. Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=48140

10-18-2014, 11:28 AM	#327
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	Why not just make it simple, iconic, and bring in the best there was, the best there is, and the best there ever will be and I don't mean Bret Hart I mean Dick Grayson! Have him be in college and that will put a few years on Bruce that way. Going with any other Robin takes away my interest and it makes thing more complicated. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

10-18-2014, 11:50 AM	#328
Slade god status Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,291	According to description, there's a center peice in the bat cave of a torn up Robin suit. If that's true, plus the fact that Batman has been at it for years, Grayson can't be Robin in this movie. __________________ Do not concern yourself with what I've already done: rather tremble at the thought of what I am about to do. Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=48140

10-18-2014, 08:55 PM	#333
Turo602 The King of Kings Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Illinois Posts: 2,931	Why is everyone acting like these characters are sharing equal screen time? Superman was already established in Man of Steel and Zack Snyder has already made it clear that Batman needs no introduction. Everyone else doesn't really matter except for maybe Lex Luthor. If you're looking for development on these other characters, then you're going to have to wait 'til Justice League where Batman and Superman can take the back seat. But right now, this movie is mainly about Batman and Superman. Just because big names are being dropped doesn't mean they're important to this movie when they're probably just being used as cameos to hype up Justice League. __________________

10-19-2014, 12:37 PM	#336
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	The movie is about Superman and Batman, WW will have a smaller role in the movie. All the other heroes will only have a cameo to set them up, something only "fans" will get. Then in JL we will see them introduced properly instead of having them all crammed in int he JL movie for the first time, at least we had already seen them "visually" even if they weren't focused in the movie. Maybe not the best scenario but I think it will work and isn't necessarily worse than Marvel's rush two origin movies the year before Avengers. I mean the JL cartoon introduced the whole JL in the movie without a problem with us only "knowing Batman/Superman" as well. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

10-17-2014, 05:54 PM	#321
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,888	There had better not be a girl Robin in the movie. I'd rather see a 25 year old Tim Drake.

10-17-2014, 06:20 PM	#322
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	I know they've said they were using a lot of The Dark Knight Returns as a big influence in this movie but putting Carrie Kelley in it surprises me for some reason. I like the casting even though Malone is a good bit older than the character in TDKR.

10-18-2014, 12:50 PM	#329
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	Dick Grayson as Nightwing has been rumored to be in this for a while now

10-18-2014, 01:33 PM	#330
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,888	So let me get this straight, this movie is rumored to have: Superman Batman Nightwing Robin Wonder Woman Cyborg Aquaman In addition to Lois Lane, Lex Luthor, and whatever other villains are in this movie? And all these characters will be competing for screentime? WTF.

10-18-2014, 03:29 PM	#332
~~Sumac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6,129	Same here. Avengers had an advantage as there was no neccesity to establish characters and movie could concentrate on their interactions and adventures. How are they gonna introduce so many heavy players in one movie and have some time for an actual plot is sort of mistery to me. I am not saying "Marvel way - is the only way to do a shared universe", but from the look of it, BvS attempts to cram a lot of stuff in one single movie and I am just not sure how it can work, especially with Snyder at the helm. And I am not digging idea of Batman being an urban legend after being active for a decade or so. It's just...strange.

10-19-2014, 12:18 PM	#335
~~Sumac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6,129	Thing is if those other characters would be reduced to cameos, so what's the point of having them there in the first place? I mean, how we gonna know, that this guy is a Aquaman or this girl is the Robin? If they randomly appear on screen out of nowhere, do some awesome stuff and dissappear, never to be mentioned again in the movie, it will be quite strange, to say the least. It will be like MK Anihhilation, which had many characters for the sake of having many characters in, with little to no build up or send-off.

10-26-2014, 08:28 PM	#337
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	It's just foreshadowing. More than half of those cameo characters are going to have, like, two minutes of screen time each, most likely, but will be hugely impactful in future films, by all accounts. People need to relax. Some of the news that has leaked out has been somewhat questionable, but none of it has been outright bad. Like some, I'm not fully sold on (possibly) Carrie being Robin, as it's not a DKR adaptation and sticking too closely to it is only going to mislead and eventually disappoint a certain segment of fans. But, I'm fairly confident they're "saving" Grayson for the eventual Batman "solo" film, which I'd wager will be set in the "past" of this Batman, with a younger actor in the lead role (keeping Affleck solely for the "Justice League"-related movies). Although he may still have a cameo as an adult in BvS, for all we know. I mean, yeah, some stuff makes you kinda go "huh", but I swear people are over-thinking this one a fair bit. Just a gut feeling I have, I'unno.

10-26-2014, 08:36 PM	#338
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	Why Carrie Kelly and not Barbara Gordon as Batgirl? Batgirl is in need of a redo on the big screen and it might be the opportunity needed. If Robin does appear a college age Robin as in Dick Grayson would work. If Bruce had been Batman for close to three years and if Dick was 12 back then perhaps six to seven years later Bruce would be 35/36 and be considered a veteran to Superman's sophomore status of in or around 26? A full decade on Superman in this reality in enough. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!