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Old 06-04-2003, 09:54 AM   #21
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I suggest writing to the company, even if it nothing changes. I'll probably do just that. Maybe a petition should be formed, as well. If you folks plan to write, don't write anything insulting or anything rude.
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Old 06-04-2003, 12:31 PM   #22
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Im not going to buy it if it's just "Epic Begins". Thats the excatly same as the first DVD that is now sold in scandinavia. Im really disapointed if it isn't the full first season.
How do you know it's going to be edited this time around as well. They might do it as a fully uncut version of the entire first season.
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Old 06-04-2003, 01:05 PM   #23
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OK I want the hole season just like every one else but at this point in time I dont think we can complain because we dont know whats going to be on it
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Old 06-04-2003, 01:36 PM   #24
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OK I want the hole season just like every one else but at this point in time I dont think we can complain because we dont know whats going to be on it
I guess that's true. I still encourage all TMNT fans to write to Artisan, though.
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Old 06-04-2003, 01:41 PM   #25
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No it is not true, look at the letter... they say it's a 70 minute episode. If my memory is correct the epic begin vhs is 74 minutes long.
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Old 06-04-2003, 01:57 PM   #26
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Im not going to buy it if it's just "Epic Begins". Thats the excatly same as the first DVD that is now sold in scandinavia. Im really disapointed if it isn't the full first season.
How do you know it's going to be edited this time around as well. They might do it as a fully uncut version of the entire first season.
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No it is not true, look at the letter... they say it's a 70 minute episode. If my memory is correct the epic begin vhs is 74 minutes long.
If it really was said by a Project manager, he could easily say 70 minutes aproximate. He probably doesn't even know the excat length. If I remember correctly it's 73 minutes, but that fact he said 70 unfortunately proves nothing. If DVD toons posted the info, it can be considered as reliable as the info that the DVD's are on their way. DVD toons posted that too back in the day.
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Old 06-04-2003, 11:31 PM   #27
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Okay, is there anyone that can form a petition for the Classic TMNT DVDs? I need help with a good petition statement. I don't just plan to get people here to sign the petition, but people elsewhere. I think letters and a DVD plans change are ideas that could get Artisan to change their plans. I feel (and I'm sure a lot of people here feel the same way) that the DVD(s) doesn't/do not deserve that kind of treatment.
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Old 06-05-2003, 12:29 AM   #28
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Oh for crying out loud!

There are a milion petitions out there and none are worth crap!
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Old 06-05-2003, 12:37 AM   #29
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Oh for crying out loud!

There are a milion petitions out there and none are worth crap!
Maybe, it's because the majority of them are CRAP!! Sure, not all petitions result in any changes, but there are those that can change things. If you don't care, then you might as well not reply. I can see that you don't care.
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Old 06-05-2003, 01:56 AM   #30
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A snail-mail write-in campaign is a good idea but a petition is not.

Read this before you make quick judgements of me:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.htm

Also, I'd like to point out that there are already MANY petitions out there about the TMNT DVD, and they are all "slacktivism" at it's worst, so SHUT UP!
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Old 06-05-2003, 02:55 AM   #31
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A snail-mail write-in campaign is a good idea but a petition is not.

Read this before you make quick judgements of me:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.htm

Also, I'd like to point out that there are already MANY petitions out there about the TMNT DVD, and they are all "slacktivism" at it's worst, so SHUT UP!
Moi? Sure, I will not say another word..not because you said so, either. I just don't want to be at the same level as you are. Thank you.
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Old 06-05-2003, 02:58 AM   #32
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oh come on guys, let's not get out of hand with this. ORD Thinks it's a good Idea for a pettion, then I wish him good luck with it.

I personally am against online pettitions but, dosn't mean others cant try right?
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Old 06-05-2003, 03:04 AM   #33
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oh come on guys, let's not get out of hand with this. ORD Thinks it's a good Idea for a pettion, then I wish him good luck with it.

I personally am against online pettitions but, dosn't mean others cant try right?
Thanks for your support, and I respect your opinion on online petitions, g_k. I'm not trying to get into an argument or anything, I am just very disappointed that Artisan plans to release "The Epic Begins" version of the first season. I felt that Artisan can do better, and I think it could still change, if people write to Artisan or sign a petition. I do think those things do effect plans, but they don't always work. Doing nothing guarantees that the plans will remain intact. I felt a successful cartoon series with almost 200 episodes deserve better (uncut seasonal sets). I do believe in changes, and this is no exception.
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Old 06-05-2003, 03:20 AM   #34
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oh come on guys, let's not get out of hand with this. ORD Thinks it's a good Idea for a pettion, then I wish him good luck with it.

I personally am against online pettitions but, dosn't mean others cant try right?
Thanks for your support, and I respect your opinion on online petitions, g_k. I'm not trying to get into an argument or anything, I am just very disappointed that Artisan plans to release "The Epic Begins" version of the first season. I felt that Artisan can do better, and I think it could still change, if people write to Artisan or sign a petition. I do think those things do effect plans, but they don't always work. Doing nothing guarantees that the plans will remain intact. I felt a successful cartoon series with almost 200 episodes deserve better (uncut seasonal sets). I do believe in changes, and this is no exception.
Yeah that's true. I'd be down for a Write-In pettition... I was a member of SOS back in like 1997, and IT WORKED. we Revived Sailor Moon. I can see that working... Ive just seen too many failed Online pettitions to even bother with them anymore...
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Old 06-05-2003, 04:25 AM   #35
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It is a fact that online petitions do not have any value. Like been said, only thing that can work is a snail mail campaing, and that's not guaranteed either.
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It is a fact that online petitions do not have any value. Like been said, only thing that can work is a snail mail campaing, and that's not guaranteed either.
Thank you Karpo for backing up what I said.

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Moi? Sure, I will not say another word..not because you said so, either. I just don't want to be at the same level as you are. Thank you.
Don't worry your assumption that just because I don't belive in online petitions means I don't care, followed by an attempted guilt-trip when I backed up my point and stood up to your little insulting comment, puts you at a slightly lower level than me.
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Old 06-05-2003, 02:29 PM   #37
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Don't worry your assumption that just because I don't belive in online petitions means I don't care, followed by an attempted guilt-trip when I backed up my point and stood up to your little insulting comment, puts you at a slightly lower level than me.
Drop it. *walks away*
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Old 06-05-2003, 05:29 PM   #38
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Don't worry your assumption that just because I don't belive in online petitions means I don't care, followed by an attempted guilt-trip when I backed up my point and stood up to your little insulting comment, puts you at a slightly lower level than me.
Drop it. *walks away*
Sounds good. Why don't we both just drop it?
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Does anybody have the address for Artisan? NOT an E-Mail address but a real address so we can organize a snail-mail write-in campaign where we each write a separate letter asking in our own words that they realease the uncut first season instead of that chopped-up mess!
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Old 06-05-2003, 05:45 PM   #40
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Does anybody have the address for Artisan? NOT an E-Mail address but a real address so we can organize a snail-mail write-in campaign where we each write a separate letter asking in our own words that they realease the uncut first season instead of that chopped-up mess!
Artisan Entertainment
2700 Colorado Avenue, 2nd Floor
Santa Monica, CA 90404

I think that's accurate. If anyone has any other DVDs from Artisan Entertainment (T2, Total Recall, etc.), check the address on the back of the DVD. The address I have is from DVDtoons.com, while the one on a T2 DVD that was released about two years ago is the exact same address (except the '2nd Floor' part is not included).
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