Dave Green in talks to direct TMNT 2

[Powder]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Plus, merch branding. Helps to keep costs down if the image already established is used again.

But what about Playmates? They're not gonna sit idly by & hope folks buy the (then) old toys, & I doubt they'd re-issue the same ones... So I'd have to assume the look would change based on the need to sell more merch of the same characters. If nothing else, they do a small scene where they wear costumes, for which PMT can create variant figures akin to the undercover Raph.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Powder

But what about Playmates? They're not gonna sit idly by & hope folks buy the (then) old toys, & I doubt they'd re-issue the same ones... So I'd have to assume the look would change based on the need to sell more merch of the same characters. If nothing else, they do a small scene where they wear costumes, for which PMT can create variant figures akin to the undercover Raph.

Nah, just use the same molds and make them like those hilarious Batman figures you always see that never show up in any way in the movies.

Like this:



Another buck to make.

[LeoRaph]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Nah, just use the same molds and make them like those hilarious Batman figures you always see that never show up in any way in the movies.

Like this:

http://i.imgur.com/4vO0raG.jpg?1

Another buck to make.

Maaaaaaaaaan, when I was a kid Batman Returns pissed me off to no end for doing just that It was so hard just to find a 'normal' batman. They had about 10 different coloured Batmans and one proper Batman being Crime Attack Batman....which I never found back then. The closest I could find was Thunderwhip Batman with his wonky wrist that wouldn't fit in vehicles properly and Bruce Wayne with chunky gauntlets and boots. Which ended up being one of my faves as it was just so cool to be Batman and Bruce Wayne.

[B-Man]

Originally Posted by LeoRaph

Maaaaaaaaaan, when I was a kid Batman Returns pissed me off to no end for doing just that It was so hard just to find a 'normal' batman. They had about 10 different coloured Batmans and one proper Batman being Crime Attack Batman....which I never found back then. The closest I could find was Thunderwhip Batman with his wonky wrist that wouldn't fit in vehicles properly and Bruce Wayne with chunky gauntlets and boots. Which ended up being one of my faves as it was just so cool to be Batman and Bruce Wayne.

I know what you mean! In 92, I was given a Laser Batman from the 'Batman Returns' line for my birthday & I remember thinking "...but he doesn't look like this in the movie. And he sure doesn't fire lasers". That Christmas I was given a Robin figure from the same line & thought "Seriously, did I watch a different version of the movie???" (side note: I still find it hilarious that a movie as dark as 'Returns' had McDonalds Happy Meals)

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by LeoRaph

Maaaaaaaaaan, when I was a kid Batman Returns pissed me off to no end for doing just that It was so hard just to find a 'normal' batman. They had about 10 different coloured Batmans and one proper Batman being Crime Attack Batman....which I never found back then. The closest I could find was Thunderwhip Batman with his wonky wrist that wouldn't fit in vehicles properly and Bruce Wayne with chunky gauntlets and boots. Which ended up being one of my faves as it was just so cool to be Batman and Bruce Wayne.

I remember having the Bruce Wayne action figure with the quick change Batman Armor

Spoiler:

Which was AWESOME

And I had the Shadow Wing Batman which, when you squeezed his legs, his arms would pop up and expand the cape which was attached to his wrists by cuffs.

Spoiler:

Also super awesome.

Man I wish I still had them.

[LeoRaph]

And I had the Shadow Wing Batman which, when you squeezed his legs, his arms would pop up and expand the cape which was attached to his wrists by cuffs.

Spoiler:


Also super awesome.

Man I wish I still had them.

Yeah, they were great Shadow Wing! That's the other 'normalish' one, I forgot about him...I had him too but I think the only one who survived was the Bruce Wayne one...I think he's back at the family home...somewhere

[pdizzle]

Coming in a little late on this but it seems like their going to go with a more kiddie route with the sequel give the director they chose.....this is dissapointing

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

No idea who he is. He has only done 8 directing jobs, most of which are shorts.

Why not get someone different?

Different writers would be more ideal than a different director IMO

[Bitsy83]

Originally Posted by pdizzle

Coming in a little late on this but it seems like their going to go with a more kiddie route with the sequel give the director they chose.....this is dissapointing

So....it's "Secret of the Ooze" all over again? What upset me about that movie was how much more toned down it was. Yeah, I was a little shocked hearing Raph yelling "DAMN!" loud enough for the entire city to hear, but I knew it wasn't a cartoon. I always assumed there was cursing in live-action movies....except for the Sesame Street ones, of course.

I remember Nostalgia Critic reviewing the first three movies in one of his SUPER early reviews and how basically SotO taught children how to make everyday household items into weapons as opposed to actual ninjutsu weapons that are not easily accessible to the general public. ("Thank you, mothers of America.")

Still, I'm hoping the sequel won't be quite like that. I mean, if parents are taking their kids still to see "Avengers" and "Captain America," (which are ALSO PG-13), then hopefully they won't bring this movie down past that rating. I just want more focus on the Turtles. Fine, we know April knew them; we can shift the focus off her for a bit.

[Leo656]

If they do make it more "kiddie", it makes sense, though. Most of the people who liked this pile the most were little kids, and the grown-ups who liked it seem to keep reminding everyone that "It's all for the kids, man!" as an excuse for how lousy it was. It's too soon to know if they are indeed going to target even more towards kids, but I can see that happening.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by Bitsy83

Still, I'm hoping the sequel won't be quite like that. I mean, if parents are taking their kids still to see "Avengers" and "Captain America," (which are ALSO PG-13), then hopefully they won't bring this movie down past that rating. I just want more focus on the Turtles. Fine, we know April knew them; we can shift the focus off her for a bit.

i would argue the problem isnt parents this time

i havent really heard any soccer mom backlash

just that the crowed that really loved this movie mostly falls in the 10 and under range

so they figure why not just aim for the crowd instead of making a movie for the older crowd

[Candy Kappa]

If it means Mikey stops being a creepy borderline rrapey NiceGuy, I'm all for it...

Although, it'll probaly just be supplemented with Another fart joke.

[TigerClaw]

I think it be more then just a rehash of Secret of the Ooze, Bebop and Rocksteady are like a force of nature. So maybe we'll see shots of them causing a bit of destruction in NYC, I can totally see Rocksteady using his head to ram into cars or break through walls in buildings, and Bebop pulling out some weapon.

Perhaps they team up with Karai in the sequel, Maybe we'll see something like you see here from the IDW comics.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by B-Man

With a new director, do you think the Turtles will have a different look? They'll obviously have different costumes, but this new guy may well change the aesthetic of the Turtles themselves.

Strong doubts personally. The original movies sound like they had to keep making replacement parts anyhow due to the wear and tear they took so kind of a given new ones would automatically be created. Though I'm not sure changing the 3D models would be cost effective for the budget when existing models are already there and well made despite not being the usual design and a bunch of gnarly looking buggers.

I imagine most budget for character design will prob go to Bebop and Rocksteady as they will no doubt need it. (And super duper mega Shredder if they go that route.)

Repeating myself I'm sure, but personally I find the designs a little better in lighting and angles that are more flattering on them. At the very least I could accept some purposeful attention to that fact (ok, opinion).

If they do change their gear/accessories I sorta look forward to seeing what happens with that. Since the Turtles know April now she should totally get them sports gear for NY teams if they're fans; NY resident kind of stuff they can't really get on their own. lol (Then again, they buy Pop-Tarts... clearly they obtain things by Turtle magic.)

[Bry]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

i would argue the problem isnt parents this time

i havent really heard any soccer mom backlash

just that the crowed that really loved this movie mostly falls in the 10 and under range

so they figure why not just aim for the crowd instead of making a movie for the older crowd

So, potentially... instead of hearing the very very (very) valid criticisms of this movie, taking them to heart and trying harder to make something better next time, they're just gonna set the bar lower so they don't have to bother?

Yeah, sounds about right.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Perhaps they team up with Karai in the sequel, Maybe we'll see something like you see here from the IDW comics.

i wouldnt look to much into it or hope for some amazing back story....remember Karai was in the first one and was supposedly a crucial part of the story

only to end up with like 5 lines and mostly unforgetable

[Candy Kappa]

I highly doubt they'll make new CGI models of the turtles, new gear... Maybe.

The models are well enough crafted that they could easily last at least two more sequels. If you're smart, you make the CG models for the sequel, it's what they did when making the Hulk in The Incredible Hulk, their aim was to make the model usable for the sequel and a future Avengers movie. Of course Marvel Studios got a new cgi model for the Hulk to reflect Ruffalo, but the Incredible Hulk cgi model was tremendously impressive, especially from showreels where they showed how much work there was into the muscle work and how the skin moved over the muscles and simulating blood flow and all that incredible stuff.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

I highly doubt they'll make new CGI models of the turtles, new gear... Maybe.

The models are well enough crafted that they could easily last at least two more sequels. If you're smart, you make the CG models for the sequel, it's what they did when making the Hulk in The Incredible Hulk, their aim was to make the model usable for the sequel and a future Avengers movie. Of course Marvel Studios got a new cgi model for the Hulk to reflect Ruffalo, but the Incredible Hulk cgi model was tremendously impressive, especially from showreels where they showed how much work there was into the muscle work and how the skin moved over the muscles and simulating blood flow and all that incredible stuff.

Well, They can make them look a bit older, They were 15 years old in 2014, In 2016, They will be 17 years old.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Well, They can make them look a bit older, They were 15 years old in 2014, In 2016, They will be 17 years old.

That's just a simple texture rework though, the cgi model wouldn't need any remodeling to age a character from "teen" to young adult.

[IndigoErth]

Unless, if they're supposed to be that young, the film makers decide they're still growing... Imagine them being even bigger. (They'll outgrow the ability to even get into that van. Turtle clown car.)

I never did see anywhere myself confirmation of an exact age of this group. If they've said they're 15, that age just really doesn't seem realistic at all with this group. Late teens I could believe. Sorta. (In my mind they were simply forced to lie about their age. lol)