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Old 12-15-2014, 08:40 PM   #21
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Yeah, I don't really understand the love or the hate either - I couldn't even name (or recognize) one of his songs if I tried.

As a rule, I try not to knock peoples' music tastes too much, cuz that sh*t's pretty personal - music means a lot to people sometimes and it feels rude to seriously bag someone's music collection if it's what gets them through the day.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:57 PM   #22
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Any girls care to extrapolate on why this happens? Like, do you "fall in love" with whoever the first guy is to make you have to change your underpants or something? Because I didn't send Winona Ryder a marriage proposal after I saw "Beetlejuice", I just bitched I wasn't old enough to nail her. I've never understood how girls fall - and HARD - for these manufactured celebrity boy band types. Like, a lot of girls know and are fully aware that it's all a scheme designed exactly for that purpose - "You think these guys are pretty, right? Well give us all your money and plaster their pouty faces all over your room/locker/everything! We know it's not about their sterile and meaningless 'music', you just like how they get you moist. Don't worry, we won't tell." And yet, even girls who are aware they are being manipulated still often partake.
Prior to adulthood I'm not sure most are consciously aware of that. They might hear it, but if it's someone they are into they are probably going to shove it into the denial box and feel convinced that this particular guy is different, that he's real and not like that. It's all these celeb magazines made for teens that talk about these people and how wonderful they are and on and on, and of course never really include any negatives.

Now how some of Beiber's fans choose to defend and continue to adore him after some of the stuff that has come out, I'll never know.

Female celebrities certainly get their fair share of overdone male admirers, even if the behavior seems pretty foreign to normal human beings. lol
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Old 12-15-2014, 09:28 PM   #23
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I think he's a great children's entertainer.
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:38 AM   #24
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I guess I will admit that there's a select few songs of his that are decent, but I'd still prefer basically anyone else over him.
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Old 12-16-2014, 04:36 PM   #25
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Female celebrities certainly get their fair share of overdone male admirers, even if the behavior seems pretty foreign to normal human beings. lol
Totally. The way Leo and Dave feel about girls creaming over Beiber, I feel about the legion of men who think Fox is hot (because they've been told by the media that she's sexy - when really, she's no better or worse than any other starlet with decent looks to begin with who then had access to a plastic surgeon).

This probably comes off as pissy jealousy and hell, maybe it is. I'm just sick of female celebrities insisting that they get their figures from eating healthy and working out, and pretty girls like Fox insisting that they were ugly in highschool. Like - come on. Stop peddling the faux humility and trying to be relatable to the little people. You look good because you've got squillions of dollars and nothing to do all day except to work on having the perfect face, the perfect hair and the perfect body, with your legion of holistic chefs and personal trainers. Don't sugarcoat it.

Magazines aimed at teen girls really do pump out the celebrity worship though - I haven't even picked up one of those things in 15 years but I can remember what they were like when I was a teen; I can only imagine how much worse they've gotten.
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Old 12-18-2014, 01:07 AM   #26
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I don't like the guy much - comes off as majorly stuck-up (granted, that isn't unique to a celebrity).

BUT, I think he gets more hate than he deserves. Everyone blew up on him a few years back like, "lol kid ain't gone through puberty yet", "kid sounds like a f*ckin' girl", that kind of thing. And that just...stuck. Permanently. I feel like people only bash him nowadays because it's the thing to do. Do I like him? No, not at all. But you don't see me goin' around taking shots at him for no reason other than just for kicks. He at least has some semblance of talent, unlike a lot of pop stars who have none at all, and don't get a fraction of the hate that he does.
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Old 12-19-2014, 12:02 AM   #27
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I actually think Bieber is a decent looking guy, albeit it very young looking and yet to grow into his looks. You can see that he has good bone structure and classic attractive features - in contrast to Styles. So I can understand why young girls might find him physically attractive, although not to the pathetically sycophantic extent they display.

On the subject of Styles, this gave me a good laugh. Yes, it's a site full of misogynists, but they know their stuff when it comes to attractiveness and this post was spot on:

http://sluthate.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31055

All the talk of maxillas, bimax, recessed jaw is obviously way over the heads of moron Wand Erection fans, whose entire thought process seems to be "in a boyband? Must be one of the best looking men ever!" - regardless of all the evidence to the contrary.

Styles is by a significant margin the most overrated human being I've ever seen in terms of physical attractiveness. Although loads of women think he's a mess so perhaps it's only deluded teen girls and desperate older ladies who have yet to grow up who like him.

If there's one thing I hate in any aspect of life, it's people who are vastly overrated and believe their own hype. Styles fulfils both criteria and as a result he's impossible to like. The fact that he's uneducated, has zero qualifications and has probably never read a book in his life also makes me hate him.

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Old 12-19-2014, 12:30 AM   #28
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Well, apparently a lot of lesbians found hairstyle inspiration via Beiber's 'do over the years so... props to him for that, I guess?
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Old 12-19-2014, 12:33 AM   #29
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Well, what I'm really saying is that Bieber and Styles are both talentless, annoying, uneducated cretins...but at least you can understand Bieber's attractiveness to teen girls, from a physical standpoint. Styles has zero redeeming features, so he's easier to hate.
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Old 12-19-2014, 08:51 AM   #30
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Does this Styles kid owe you money? J/K, we all have people we hate on a pathological level for reasons that even we ourselves only kinda-sorta understand. All good, homie.

For me, it's Timberlake, and I'unno why. I mean, I've never liked his music, it's not like I even hear it much or see him much, ever, at all. He affects my life in absolutely zero ways and I never even think about him unless I see his name when I'm skimming Yahoo for news. And yet, whenever I see him... I just want to punch him in the face until his head is on backwards. Never quite got why that is.

Maybe because he banged Britney back when that meant somethin', I'unno.
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Old 12-19-2014, 09:18 AM   #31
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I think Timberlake's main problem is that he has the voice of a 9 year old girl. That and the fact that he's a clown. Coco Timberlake.

As for Styles, I can't really explain it. I just hate the little pr!ck. I hated him the first time I laid eyes on him, before I even knew his name or anything about him. I just didn't like the guy. Now every time I open a website to read current events there's a story about whichever gold-digger he's having a media-invented relationship with.

I hate the fact that there's so much fuss over such an unremarkable little tool. I seen an interview with him and he could barely string a coherent sentence together. To call him an imbecile would be an understatement. Factor in his complete lack of talent, and the general unwarranted hype around him and...well, it's just very easy to take a dislike to the incredibly overrated little charlatan.

The rest of his clueless bandmates will probably crawl back under their rock when No Direction's 15 minutes runs out. But I get the feeling that this parasite is gonna start some sh!t solo career and linger, Robbie Williams style. He'd be easy to avoid if it wasn't for the fact that stories about him pop up on places like yahoo even when I'm browing CURRENT EVENTS AND NOT ENTERTAINMENT (if you can call the **** he serves up 'entertainment').

He's the most overrated human being I've ever laid eyes on. I'm not even exaggerating. He makes guys like Bieber, Wayne Rooney, Cristiano Ronaldo really likeable by comparison.
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At least Robbie Williams did "Angels". That's pretty.
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It's all right. When some talentless clown does a good song I prefer to think about how much better it would be if a world-class vocalist was singing it instead. Like giving a monkey the keys to your ferrari. What a waste.
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Old 12-19-2014, 04:37 PM   #34
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I don't like the way he conducts himself and I don't care for his music, but what I don't get, and will NEVER understand, is the slavish devotion he gets from his fans. Give ya a perfect example of what I mean.

When I used to be a mover, I was packing this girl's bedroom once and their was this giant shrine to Bieber on her wall, all these pictures and stuff, and attached to the largest poster was this goofy hand-written letter. This girl was maybe 11, and she just went on and on about how madly in love she was with him and how "perfect" he was and would do anything to meet him, that she knew they were "perfect" for each other, that she was keeping a copy of the letter so that one day when they were together they would each have one to look back on, like... just so eye-rolling. That's just the stuff I remember. It kinda went on.

I don't get it. It's not just about him, either, I don't get why girls act like that. Far as I know, guys don't. We all have our crushes but I don't think to that degree. My niece was a huge tomboy until she discovered One Direction; now she wears make-up and listens to boy bands and doesn't even care about TMNT anymore (and how much ya think THAT pisses me off?).

Any girls care to extrapolate on why this happens? Like, do you "fall in love" with whoever the first guy is to make you have to change your underpants or something? Because I didn't send Winona Ryder a marriage proposal after I saw "Beetlejuice", I just bitched I wasn't old enough to nail her. I've never understood how girls fall - and HARD - for these manufactured celebrity boy band types. Like, a lot of girls know and are fully aware that it's all a scheme designed exactly for that purpose - "You think these guys are pretty, right? Well give us all your money and plaster their pouty faces all over your room/locker/everything! We know it's not about their sterile and meaningless 'music', you just like how they get you moist. Don't worry, we won't tell." And yet, even girls who are aware they are being manipulated still often partake.

I think why some people get so violently angry about Bieber, boy bands,etc., is that we really don't want to think girls are that stupid, but circumstances say otherwise. That's my angle.
Well, when I was younger, I used to have a huge crush on Nick Carter from the Backstreet Boys and I did have some posters of him on my door along with some wrestling posters of DDP, too. But I never had a huge shrine to him in my room or wrote any letters to him. It was just a crush and it passed eventually. I still like the group themselves, but that's about it because I grew up and now that I have an actual boyfriend, I'm glad that I don't have to live in a bubble like that anymore.

I'm just so thankful I never jumped on the Bieber bandwagon. I think with girls it's that they have this romantic notion that any "cute" guy is worth dating without thinking about personalities and who they really are as people. I used to feel this way, too, but I grew up and realized that it's more than just about looks and that there's also more about who the person is. Hell, I fell in love with my BF after I discovered we both liked Harry Potter and we were both visually impaired. That's what did it for me, and that's what it's all about. Finding a common interest instead of just concentrating on looks.
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Old 12-19-2014, 05:48 PM   #35
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I never liked the guy and my kid sister didn't either. Some songs are catchy and stick with you, but his stuff seemed to be played endlessly there for a while no matter where I was shopping. I'd be in TRU and you'd hear Baby blaring. My sister always agreed with me that he seemed rather sneaky. She said he had that look about him, and the kid is a pretty good judge of character, so I believed her. I still remember her calling me and laughing uncontrollably while shouting,"Cool! We were right!," whenever he'd gotten into trouble for doing whatever the heck it was he did in his neighborhood. Didn't he egg or tp a few houses while on drugs? Or was that some other singer? I didn't know who it was at first when my kid sister called because she never laughs that hard. Before the phone call, she spent a little time making fun of his hair and laughing about how full of himself he appeared to be, but that was about it. She'd also watch this video where he got hit in the face or head with something at one of his concerts. That cracked her up. My mom also disliked the guy from the very first. She said the same thing about him having some crafty look. I guess Shakespeare would have called that look,"lean and hungry." Eh, who knows? I just got so tired of listening to that Baby song they'd play at my local Bestbuy and other haunts all the time. I should check to see if youtube still has that vid with James Earl Jones reading the lyrics on some talkshow. I managed to get through that okay. I wonder if 2012 Mikey also dislikes Justin.
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For me, it's Timberlake, and I'unno why. I mean, I've never liked his music, it's not like I even hear it much or see him much, ever, at all. He affects my life in absolutely zero ways and I never even think about him unless I see his name when I'm skimming Yahoo for news. And yet, whenever I see him... I just want to punch him in the face until his head is on backwards. Never quite got why that is.

Maybe because he banged Britney back when that meant somethin', I'unno.
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I guess I'd be waving... bye bye bye?
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