Insane pastor has own "cure" for AIDS

[IndigoErth]

If WBC is who I think it is, from what I understand most (all?) of them are also supposedly related... just one big nutjob family. They're not even good examples of humankind let alone a theological demographic.

There are times that a law preventing the abuse of freedom of speech almost seems like a good idea...

[BubblyShell22]

I agree with that, Indigo, but it'll never happen.

[JakeSully]

I'm glad i'm an atheist.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, me, too. I agree that not all people who believe are like this, but it's the people who ARE bigoted and use religion in such a hateful way that makes me despise religion and want nothing to do with it.

[Jester]

I hate to go there, but there aren't bigoted, hateful atheist?

EVERY group has its complete and total douche-bags.

[pennydreadful]

Agreed - people can be utter wankstains regardless of race, religion, gender or any other factor. It's a shame that there are so many unpleasant specimens out there, but short of drowning them in a vat of their own piss, there ain't much you can do about it.

[BubblyShell22]

Yes, there are, but I feel they're doing it to fight back against the other haters, and I'm all for that.

[Netkeeper]

Angry atheists are arguably worse than some super Christians. I understand hating religion because religious people are often bigoted. This is why I'm scared of a lot of them. But I cannot condone shoving atheism down anybody's throat. I cannot condone treating them that way back.

I used to be like that and I was pretty awful.

[slashpieturtlemix]

I love it when a person takes one or two sentences from a book and takes an entire meaning out of it. Give me a Dr. Seuss book and I can make any meaning!

I agree with the extreme arguments on here. People who are to into anything (any religion, including atheism) is always a bad thing. People just need to mind their own business.

And if anyone wants to follow that entire sentence, we could always look at it like this, the phrase states that a man shall not lay with a man like he would a women. Clearly its just stating that they can still sleep together. Just can't spend the night. The phrase has nothing about Lesbianism. Also people need to read the entire book of Leviticus. Its boring as all hell but there is no ten commandments. Its like 250+ laws lol like my personal favorite, if you commit adultery, trade a ram to the wife's husband and your sin is forgiven.

[Candy Kappa]

Oh, I've gone through Leviticus, it's a... Interesting read... Rape is a "easy" way to get a wife...

[slashpieturtlemix]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Oh, I've gone through Leviticus, it's a... Interesting read... Rape is a "easy" way to get a wife...

lol it is def one of the more intriguing books. Ancient laws were dropped for some very good reasons. Still wish we practiced the ram law just for grins but that's just me.

[DarkLightDragon]

Oh goodie, another person using his religion as justification for spewing hatred and malice towards those who are different than him/her.

Somebody give me a dollar.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Jester

I hate to go there, but there aren't bigoted, hateful atheist?

EVERY group has its complete and total douche-bags.

Yes, and agree. And say that as an atheist.


Personally I stay out of theistic arguments most of the time, just not worth it. I attribute that largely probably due to the fact that I was born and raised as I am (and still agree with this angle, so no proselytizing please) and simply don't discuss it much because prejudice over some topics is unfortunately just a fact of life... Only people who are close enough to me have any business knowing. Most are theists and so far I choose good enough friends that none have walked away because of it nor disrespected my right to my own views (and visa versa of course).

I have for a long time felt that some of the more vocal atheists are more likely 'new' atheists, those raised religious and may have grown up with religious debate/defense as second nature and have simply switched sides while continuing to argue.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by slashpieturtlemix

lol it is def one of the more intriguing books. Ancient laws were dropped for some very good reasons. Still wish we practiced the ram law just for grins but that's just me.

Agreed, Leviticus is one of the books I use when people try to tell me I'm "going to H*ll" because I'm Wiccan. I just shoot back with "Did you know the line about not suffering a 'witch' to live was originally a 'poisoner'? It changed because of a mis-scribing of a SINGLE WORD when the Bible was translated from Hebrew to Greek!" If one reads the early books of the OT, there were people consulting with sorcerers, soothsayers, and witches all the time. But after that one word got mistakenly changed, it was suddenly "righteous" to stone them to death! One letter literally changed an entire sentence into something that it wasn't supposed to mean.

[DarkFell]

Jeez, what a dumbsh*t. Somebody from his congregation better drag that guy off of the pulpit.

[BubblyShell22]

Believe me, I'm not that extreme about what I believe in. I don't like religion, but as long as people don't shove their beliefs down my throat, I'm fine with what people believe in, even if I may not agree with it and think that it's just a fictional book not unlike any other book. But if someone wants to try and shove their beliefs down my throat, I have no problem doing it back. I do admit though that there are times where I just wish people would stop believing in this stuff as I think it would make the world a better place.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Yeah, that's one reason why I found an alternative path myself. Who needs a book? I live by ONE "rule"- "And ye harm none, do as ye will." It means basically live and let live, and do whatever you like as long as it doesn't hurt anyone- including yourself. I can't think of any better words to live by.

[pennydreadful]

Back to the original topic, it's thoroughly depressing that someone can actually be that ignorant. HIV and AIDS are not solely contracted by gay people - and anybody who thinks so is an utter moron. The virus is just as easily spread by heterosexual sex as by gay sex - or by exchange of blood through dirty needles. I suppose this idiot thinks that the thousands of heterosexuals in Africa should be killed off too? Actually, he probably does.

In America, gay and bisexual men do account for a larger percentage of the affected population than heterosexuals, but heterosexual intercourse is responsible for the majority of worldwide cases.
Citation:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/...apshot-508.pdf
http://www.aidstruth.org/denialism/misuse/padian

But hey, it's not like this is a new thing. Remember when Pat Robertson said:
- that you can get AIDS from saliva (wrong, you can't)
- you can get AIDS from sharing a towel with someone (wrong, you can't)
- gay people have a magical secret society where it's against Gay Law to tell people that you have AIDS (what?)
- gay people in San Francisco have special magic rings which cut people so they can spread the virus (what???)

Citation:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3824401.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6030022.html

Bottom line, extremists who actively encourage violence against other people should be watched very carefully. I don't think people who encourage hate crimes and murder of other people should be looked up to as any kind of leadership figure or role model within the community. It's disgraceful, and shame on anybody who tolerates that kind of thing and doesn't speak out against it.

[IndigoErth]

That man himself actually has a worse disease infecting humanity. AIDS might one day be curable and eradicated, but Ignorance probably never will be. Especially considering it has the side effect of seeking power and spreading itself. And mental blindness. People like him can do what he's doing, yet preaching about somehow ridding the world of people like him would be 'wrong'... This world, I just don't know anymore.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by Katie

This guy and guys like him who are vocal about such garbage are a huge reason why Christians get a bad rap. If my preacher spewed such hate I would stand up and confront him. Hate has no place in my church.

I have no problems speaking my mind and calling out bullsh!t.

I think Christians need to confront these types more openly, like going to these nutbags' 'demonstrations' and counter-preaching or something. We'd do a whole lot of good, just showing we won't stand for that crap.

Originally Posted by Jester

I hate to go there, but there aren't bigoted, hateful atheist?

EVERY group has its complete and total douche-bags.

I've seen them, mostly through game channels and un-moderated comment sections. They know they won't get in trouble (or that it will take a long time to ban them) so they go in and 'cut loose.'