What Grinds Your Gears? :) - Page 171

*DarkFell* · 02-23-2015, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

The problem is lack of spoiler tags for large images.

Yeah, I'm guilty of the large image issue due to me being on my phone. Some of the images I find are just that huge. So, I'm thankful for finding those nifty spoiler tags.

*Powder* · 02-23-2015, 08:09 PM

People who try to get in touch with you despite being made persona non grata in the most clear of ways.

*IndigoErth* · 02-23-2015, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFell

Yeah, I'm guilty of the large image issue due to me being on my phone. Some of the images I find are just that huge. So, I'm thankful for finding those nifty spoiler tags.

Yeah, I tend to hunt Google's image search for smaller versions from trustworthy sites, but sometimes only a big one exists. Thank god spoiler exists so I'm not sometimes making people scroll past a poster. lol

*ProactiveMan* · 02-23-2015, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

When air pumps for the fish tank behind me are being too loud and I have a second one plugged in temporarily. And listening to it all day because I'm generally on the computer doing work and other stuff all day.

That is one of the most annoying sounds in the world. I used to put mine on a rolled up pair of socks just to shut it up. When I kept an axolotl, I had an aquarium chiller and that thing was even worse.

*BubblyShell22* · 02-24-2015, 09:47 AM

I complain about the snow a lot, but it really DOES grind my gears. I just can't stand it anymore.

*IndigoErth* · 02-24-2015, 02:33 PM

This is why we should have evolved to be a species that hibernates. Everything shuts down and everyone just curls up under a pile of blankets for a few months. I could go for that. lol The utility companies will turn everything back on when their alarm clocks go off in March. Great rest, no high winter electric bill, restaurants and grocery stores will do tremendously well when they reopen.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 02-24-2015, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

This is why we should have evolved to be a species that hibernates. Everything shuts down and everyone just curls up under a pile of blankets for a few months. I could go for that. lol The utility companies will turn everything back on when their alarm clocks go off in March. Great rest, no high winter electric bill, restaurants and grocery stores will do tremendously well when they reopen.

Except what would all our pets do? Everybody's kitties and pooches would starve. Fish birds and litle fur critters too. No thanks. Id rather curl up with my kitteh and a cup of cider and a movie. Its more fun than sleeping for three months.

*IndigoErth* · 02-24-2015, 07:28 PM

Well phine, get all literal about it. lol

That did cross my mind though.

With enough available I think some of our cats here might fend for themselves - IF my sister's cat didn't eat it all in short order because he's a hog. Hell, if he found packets of treats he'd chew them open.

I'd be more concerned with my fish. Continuing to live in their own toilet and becoming an ice cube.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 02-25-2015, 01:32 AM

My gear-grinder: stifling and censoring creativity in art and writing by a certain site that's SUPPOSED to ENCOURAGE such artistic outlets! Yes, I'm referring to the continuing "purge" of mature TMNT-related art and prose over on Deviant Art. Now it seems that several people there have had hundreds of pieces taken down, several have even been BANNED, and all because a few trolls don't like what they do and want to erase it from the site, in SPITE of the fact that many others create similar works for other fandoms and are left alone. Now there's a mass exit going on, and it sickens me to think that a site that was created to ENCOURAGE artistic creativity is now censoring some, while allowing others to go about their way unmolested. And it IS a molestation in the worst possible way. So some of us are protesting by staying adamantly on, looking for loopholes to turn on them, or just supporting the few who are not leaving. And I've been using the favorite button like there's no tomorrow- just as an "up yours" to the trolls behind the fiasco. Because I'm a deviant.....

*IndigoErth* · 02-25-2015, 03:04 AM

The hell? Wait... and that site has a "mature content" filter? So what is their deal? (And why would the site remove stuff if they have that option for a reason.)

All I ask is that people tag their work properly and use mature settings if suitable. There may be things I personally find a bit objectionable, but if people will be good about tagging stuff right (and some need to learn how to) and I can simply tell my search to skip those tags, then it's all good. That is not that hard to do and everyone wins, so people reporting stuff or otherwise trying to get things removed is kind of pathetic.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 02-25-2015, 03:34 AM

Yup. And the worst part is that they're hiding behind some stupid "rule" that FICTIONAL characters who are "underage" in canon can't be shown in those kinds of situations, even if they are OLDER in the story, which is ridiculous. I've seen Aurora/Ariel pics there, too, but no one seems to mind those. But heaven forbid any yaoi/slash fics or pics of the TMNT are posted up- they're getting yanked down with little to no warning, even works in storage that are being "fixed" to follow this rule- that wasn't even there when I joined a few years ago. Seems someone threw it in just to mess with certain groups among a select few fandoms. So far, TMNT is the only one I've seen them do this to, so it appears to be a targeted attack. Against certain writers and artists whose work is "offensive" to some. It's blatant homophobic trolling, is what it is- and they've got an admin in their pocket, which makes it even worse.

*Netkeeper* · 02-25-2015, 03:47 AM

Marvel. I have told you this before. DeviantArt does NOT allow porn. The mature content filter is for R-rated works -- violence, gore, artistic nudity. Not sex. They have always been like this. I have used the site for around ten years. It isn't going to change, just post your works on one of the other sites I told you about.

As for the people that post other types of porn? Report it! It hasn't been taken down because they haven't been caught. Mass-faving a bunch of stuff you don't want taken down isn't going to stop it from getting taken down. Porn is against their rules.

*plastroncafe* · 02-25-2015, 09:06 AM

Organizations that allow torture porn and violence porn, but not sexual porn. Why is it okay for children to be exposed to disemboweling and gore, but not sex? Makes no sense to me whatsoever.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 02-25-2015, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Marvel. I have told you this before. DeviantArt does NOT allow porn. The mature content filter is for R-rated works -- violence, gore, artistic nudity. Not sex. They have always been like this. I have used the site for around ten years. It isn't going to change, just post your works on one of the other sites I told you about.

As for the people that post other types of porn? Report it! It hasn't been taken down because they haven't been caught. Mass-faving a bunch of stuff you don't want taken down isn't going to stop it from getting taken down. Porn is against their rules.

I am well aware of that I've been a member myself for years. Yet this violation they are citing is utter BS. Romantic/erotic art and fics or those that feature dark and violent or adult contnt are NOT porn. Nor should anyone be subjected to a double standard in what is considered inappropriate material or what is and is not treated as porn. These are legitimate works of fiction or art that are being labeled in the same category as nude photos of a chick's vag that are nothing BUT porn. I am also a fan of several artists of dark elf erotic art, and as far as I can tell those folks are being left alone. DA has apparently added this rule about no underage ficional characters since long after those pieces were created. It is a crap rule being exploited to run certain groups off the site.

CaliperCat · 02-25-2015, 02:30 PM

DeviantArt was always kind of strange about sorts of things. I haven't even logged on to my account in years, but I recall there being similar problems with other fandoms. There were a lot of photographs that were a lot more pornographic than artistic, but those always got to stay while art much less graphic that was part of a plot device got removed. From what I understand, they're also terrible at dealing with art theft, which unfortunately is pretty rampant.

*plastroncafe* · 02-25-2015, 02:38 PM

Don't have to go much further than this forum to find people more than happy to stomp upon the fandom fun of others because they dare to play with their dolls differently.

*snake* · 02-25-2015, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

I am well aware of that I've been a member myself for years. Yet this violation they are citing is utter BS. Romantic/erotic art and fics or those that feature dark and violent or adult contnt are NOT porn. Nor should anyone be subjected to a double standard in what is considered inappropriate material or what is and is not treated as porn. These are legitimate works of fiction or art that are being labeled in the same category as nude photos of a chick's vag that are nothing BUT porn. I am also a fan of several artists of dark elf erotic art, and as far as I can tell those folks are being left alone. DA has apparently added this rule about no underage ficional characters since long after those pieces were created. It is a crap rule being exploited to run certain groups off the site.

So if it's drawn or written it's not porn? Yeah okay.

*IndigoErth* · 02-25-2015, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliperCat

There were a lot of photographs that were a lot more pornographic than artistic, but those always got to stay while art much less graphic that was part of a plot device got removed.

Too true... Be it photo or fiction, lord knows I've run across more boobs on that site than I care to see in one lifetime and the larger majority is rather obvious it's there to be erotic, not artistic.

*pennydreadful* · 02-25-2015, 03:57 PM

Here's the thing - DA aren't just taking down art and fic which clearly depict sexual acts taking place - they're removing anything where a relationship is even implied. Harmless art where one character is leaning in for a kiss, art where they're embracing, stuff which does not show any objectionable material below the waist.

If they're going to take down pics of the Turtles hugging or kissing one another (which they have) while citing the "underage" clause... that's fine, that's their prerogative. But I expect them to do it across the board. I expect this to be applied to major fandoms like Harry Potter. Let's see them taking down all pics of school-age Harry and Ginny kissing or cuddling, or Ron and Hermione.

Of course, they won't, because there would be a huge outcry. But it just highlights the hypocrisy and the heterosexism at play here.

I don't care that they're enforcing the rule, it's their site and they can make whatever terms of service they like. If users don't like it, they can (and should) go somewhere else. But apply those terms of service to all users, otherwise it's unfair. What bothers me is that a fandom which creates mm work is being targeted, and het-art or ff art (like the plethora of Disney Princess femslash on the site, with characters who are canonically under 18 ) is allowed to remain. It's hypocritical.

*BubblyShell22* · 02-25-2015, 04:46 PM

Yeah, I've heard about this elsewhere, and it's not just pictures, but fan fics as well. One of my favorite fan fic authors got some of her stuff taken down because someone found it offensive, and I think that's just stupid. The author in question does do some dark stuff, but it's not anything that I feel should be taken down. Just shows how horrible people are. Reminds me of the Critics United group on FanFiction.Net who's main goal is to try and purge the site of anything they find against the rules even though they aren't running the site themselves. Ugh!

02-24-2015, 09:47 AM	#3405
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I complain about the snow a lot, but it really DOES grind my gears. I just can't stand it anymore. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

02-25-2015, 01:32 AM	#3409
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	My gear-grinder: stifling and censoring creativity in art and writing by a certain site that's SUPPOSED to ENCOURAGE such artistic outlets! Yes, I'm referring to the continuing "purge" of mature TMNT-related art and prose over on Deviant Art. Now it seems that several people there have had hundreds of pieces taken down, several have even been BANNED, and all because a few trolls don't like what they do and want to erase it from the site, in SPITE of the fact that many others create similar works for other fandoms and are left alone. Now there's a mass exit going on, and it sickens me to think that a site that was created to ENCOURAGE artistic creativity is now censoring some, while allowing others to go about their way unmolested. And it IS a molestation in the worst possible way. So some of us are protesting by staying adamantly on, looking for loopholes to turn on them, or just supporting the few who are not leaving. And I've been using the favorite button like there's no tomorrow- just as an "up yours" to the trolls behind the fiasco. Because I'm a deviant..... __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

02-25-2015, 03:34 AM	#3411
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	Yup. And the worst part is that they're hiding behind some stupid "rule" that FICTIONAL characters who are "underage" in canon can't be shown in those kinds of situations, even if they are OLDER in the story, which is ridiculous. I've seen Aurora/Ariel pics there, too, but no one seems to mind those. But heaven forbid any yaoi/slash fics or pics of the TMNT are posted up- they're getting yanked down with little to no warning, even works in storage that are being "fixed" to follow this rule- that wasn't even there when I joined a few years ago. Seems someone threw it in just to mess with certain groups among a select few fandoms. So far, TMNT is the only one I've seen them do this to, so it appears to be a targeted attack. Against certain writers and artists whose work is "offensive" to some. It's blatant homophobic trolling, is what it is- and they've got an admin in their pocket, which makes it even worse. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

02-25-2015, 03:47 AM	#3412
Netkeeper tactical blackquill Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas, but not for much longer Posts: 3,645	Marvel. I have told you this before. DeviantArt does NOT* allow porn.* The mature content filter is for R-rated works -- violence, gore, artistic nudity. Not sex. They have always been like this. I have used the site for around ten years. It isn't going to change, just post your works on one of the other sites I told you about. As for the people that post other types of porn? Report it! It hasn't been taken down because they haven't been caught. Mass-faving a bunch of stuff you don't want taken down isn't going to stop it from getting taken down. Porn is against their rules. __________________

02-25-2015, 02:30 PM	#3415
CaliperCat Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: College Town, USA Posts: 157	DeviantArt was always kind of strange about sorts of things. I haven't even logged on to my account in years, but I recall there being similar problems with other fandoms. There were a lot of photographs that were a lot more pornographic than artistic, but those always got to stay while art much less graphic that was part of a plot device got removed. From what I understand, they're also terrible at dealing with art theft, which unfortunately is pretty rampant. __________________ 100% Jellybean and proud!

02-23-2015, 08:09 PM	#3402
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	People who try to get in touch with you despite being made persona non grata in the most clear of ways.

02-24-2015, 02:33 PM	#3406
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,296	This is why we should have evolved to be a species that hibernates. Everything shuts down and everyone just curls up under a pile of blankets for a few months. I could go for that. lol The utility companies will turn everything back on when their alarm clocks go off in March. Great rest, no high winter electric bill, restaurants and grocery stores will do tremendously well when they reopen.

02-24-2015, 07:28 PM	#3408
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,296	Well phine, get all literal about it. lol That did cross my mind though. With enough available I think some of our cats here might fend for themselves - IF my sister's cat didn't eat it all in short order because he's a hog. Hell, if he found packets of treats he'd chew them open. I'd be more concerned with my fish. Continuing to live in their own toilet and becoming an ice cube.

02-25-2015, 03:04 AM	#3410
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,296	The hell? Wait... and that site has a "mature content" filter? So what is their deal? (And why would the site remove stuff if they have that option for a reason.) All I ask is that people tag their work properly and use mature settings if suitable. There may be things I personally find a bit objectionable, but if people will be good about tagging stuff right (and some need to learn how to) and I can simply tell my search to skip those tags, then it's all good. That is not that hard to do and everyone wins, so people reporting stuff or otherwise trying to get things removed is kind of pathetic.

02-25-2015, 03:57 PM	#3419
pennydreadful trash Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 4,546	Here's the thing - DA aren't just taking down art and fic which clearly depict sexual acts taking place - they're removing anything where a relationship is even implied. Harmless art where one character is leaning in for a kiss, art where they're embracing, stuff which does not show any objectionable material below the waist. If they're going to take down pics of the Turtles hugging or kissing one another (which they have) while citing the "underage" clause... that's fine, that's their prerogative. But I expect them to do it across the board. I expect this to be applied to major fandoms like Harry Potter. Let's see them taking down all pics of school-age Harry and Ginny kissing or cuddling, or Ron and Hermione. Of course, they won't, because there would be a huge outcry. But it just highlights the hypocrisy and the heterosexism at play here. I don't care that they're enforcing the rule, it's their site and they can make whatever terms of service they like. If users don't like it, they can (and should) go somewhere else. But apply those terms of service to all users, otherwise it's unfair. What bothers me is that a fandom which creates mm work is being targeted, and het-art or ff art (like the plethora of Disney Princess femslash on the site, with characters who are canonically under 18 ) is allowed to remain. It's hypocritical. __________________ Creator of the Technodrome After Dark Discussion Group. PM for an invite (must be over 18 - no exceptions).

02-25-2015, 04:46 PM	#3420
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Yeah, I've heard about this elsewhere, and it's not just pictures, but fan fics as well. One of my favorite fan fic authors got some of her stuff taken down because someone found it offensive, and I think that's just stupid. The author in question does do some dark stuff, but it's not anything that I feel should be taken down. Just shows how horrible people are. Reminds me of the Critics United group on FanFiction.Net who's main goal is to try and purge the site of anything they find against the rules even though they aren't running the site themselves. Ugh! __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.