Frozen 2

[Vicky82]

Frozen 2 is coming out in cinemas.

Disney's giant franchise marathon continues, with today's announcement that the 53rd film in their animated classics line (and the company's highest grossing internally developed film ever), Frozen, will be receiving an official sequel. During the same shareholders meeting that saw the announcement of the release date for Star Wars: Episode VIII and Gareth Edwards' spin-off film Rogue One, Disney CEO Bob Iger and Pixar chief creative officer John Lasseter confirmed plans for Frozen 2.

"We enjoyed making Frozen Fever so much, and being back in that world with those characters," said Lasseter, referring to the short film that is playing in front of Kenneth Branagh's Cinderella. He also confirmed the return of the directing duo from the first film when he said that "Jennifer Lee and Chris Buck have come up with a great idea for a sequel, and you will be hearing a lot more about it. And we're taking you back to Arendelle. We are so excited about that."

Sequels to Disney animated films are rarely released theatrically, but Frozen was a likely exception given how successful the film was. No release window for the film was given.

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I think i'm the only person who hasn't seen Frozen yet.

[Gunpowder]

"Disney Won't Let It Go" - Haha. That's funny.

Anyway, this doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

[CyberCubed]

Frozen is the new Toy Story or Shrek. I expect to see 4 Frozen movies like we have 4 Toy Story movies and 4 Shrek movies.

Hopefully they reveal that Elsa is a lesbian in the sequel. It will truly push boundaries if Disney has a lesbian princess for the first time.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Hopefully they reveal that Elsa is a lesbian in the sequel. It will truly push boundaries if Disney has a lesbian princess for the first time.

Erm, Ok then?

[CyberCubed]

Why not? We're in 2015 its beyond time for that. Elsa hasn't had a love interest yet but you can bet in a sequel there probably will be one. Why not have it be another woman?

This isn't the 90's anymore.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Why not? We're in 2015 its beyond time for that. Elsa hasn't had a love interest yet but you can bet in a sequel there probably will be one. Why not have it be another woman?

This isn't the 90's anymore.

Was there anything in Frozen that suggested she was a lesbian?

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands?

Was there anything in Frozen that suggested she was a lesbian?

Nothing really suggested any sexual orientation, be it heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual or asexual.

I do hope if it's ever explored she won't be straight.

[IndigoErth]

Seriously? I thought that was one of the ones that, like Tangled, they were just going to let it stand alone and the short they made will be the only 'sequel'?

I mean they did that for Tangled, gave it a short (that largely focused on the damn animals...) and that's it. Still waiting for another of that one but doesn't seem Disney has any plans to.

Took me a while to catch Frozen but did see it several months ago.


Edit: Actually... anymore it seems that most 'sequelized' movies via Disney have been done by Pixar. I'm not sure Disney's own animation studio has done too many sequels for a while so will be interesting if they do go ahead with this one.

[DarkLightDragon]

Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands?

Was there anything in Frozen that suggested she was a lesbian?

She didn't end of with a guy, duh.

Typical Cybercubed logic for ya.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Seriously? I thought that was one of the ones that, like Tangled, they were just going to let it stand alone and the short they made will be the only 'sequel'?

I mean they did that for Tangled, gave it a short (that largely focused on the damn animals...) and that's it. Still waiting for another of that one but doesn't seem Disney has any plans to.

Tangled wasn't as wildly popular as Frozen was.

I'm not surprised it's getting a sequel, but I don't feel strongly either way about it.

[snake]

I really don't know what they could do in a sequel, but whatever. Not really looking forward to it.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Frozen was such a big hit partly because it's emotional story rang true. Elsa has been a repressed woman finally able to embrace her own individuality. (I really wish she had been the protagonist instead of Anna... Anna was boring in comparison.) Knowing quite a few repressed women, this movie really resounded with me and above-mentioned women.

If Frozen can recapture that depth of emotion and magic again, AWESOME. If not, it will be severely lacking.

Although honestly, Tangled also had that same emotional story of repressed woman becoming free to embrace her own individuality and independence, and THAT movie ALSO really resounded with me and twice-above-mentioned ladies.

Two for two, Disney... two for two!

[IndigoErth]

Well, they originally were considering a Tangled 2, however from what I've read it's no longer on the table. Tangled was and is quite popular, but with Frozen coming along afterward and using some of the same style brought about in Tangled, hard to keep the spotlight. Plus it would have to divert into some other kind of story outside the Rapunzel fable. Tangled really is probably a stronger film if it's stands alone, but just sucks that Flynn and Rapunzel are my fave Disney characters, it's a shame not to see them again. (Although more cameos - like in Frozen - are appreciated.)


Frozen... I dunno, I thought it was good, but not quite as great as I was expecting and don't really get why it's so huge.

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Frozen was such a big hit partly because it's emotional story rang true. Elsa has been a repressed woman finally able to embrace her own individuality. (I really wish she had been the protagonist instead of Anna... Anna was boring in comparison.) Knowing quite a few repressed women, this movie really resounded with me and above-mentioned women.

See I think what actually does not appeal to me about Frozen is the fact that although Elsa is able to find freedom and self acceptance for who she is, which is great and all... but in order to do so, she has to go live alone in continued isolation on a mountain. Granted she's not there at the end, but to me, that message didn't ring well.

Tangled however resonates with me more because Mother Gothel unfortunately has some traits similar to my mother and Rapunzel gains a lot by breaking free. Plus I love that Flynn and Rapunzel equally save each others ass in different ways, they both gain.


Edit: On the sexuality topic... I have no issue with it if Disney decides that one of their characters is a lesbian - however I would not want to see it done simply at the expense of a belief that being single is not ok for one of their characters unless she's a 'bad guy.'

Either way, who's she going to date, a guy or girl with a fire power problem? Someone she can't really freeze? lol

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

One other thing I forgot to mention: if Elsa were to come out as a lesbian, that could very well be handled in as much the same vein as the first film, i.e. female empowerment. From a story point of view, that could easily make sense and be well done.

But does Disney have the cajones to do that? I very much doubt it. They're in the business of making money, and to do that, you avoid controversy when and where possible. Making their biggest character ever a lesbian would be a huge controversy, due to current political demographics and beliefs, and so will not happen.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Frozen didn't really connect with me. I feel like it fell apart near the ending... and I still don't know what the purpose of those weird gremlin people is.

It was a good movie, but had room for improvement. I'm not surprised Disney is exploiting its popularity, though.

Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands?

Was there anything in Frozen that suggested she was a lesbian?

Lots of old women thought so.

There are like a dozen news stories (I use the term "news" generously) about old ladies complaining about how it was so obvious that Anna and Elsa had the hots for each other.

Even though the two are sisters.

And clearly love each other in a sisterly way.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

Lots of old women thought so.

There are like a dozen news stories (I use the term "news" generously) about old ladies complaining about how it was so obvious that Anna and Elsa had the hots for each other.

Even though the two are sisters.

And clearly love each other in a sisterly way.

They clearly never had sisters they loved. Which is sad and pitiable. It seems perfectly obvious to anyone who has ever experienced or witnessed a normal loving sibling relationship.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

See I think what actually does not appeal to me about Frozen is the fact that although Elsa is able to find freedom and self acceptance for who she is, which is great and all... but in order to do so, she has to go live alone in continued isolation on a mountain. Granted she's not there at the end, but to me, that message didn't ring well.

Tangled however resonates with me more because Mother Gothel unfortunately has some traits similar to my mother and Rapunzel gains a lot by breaking free. Plus I love that Flynn and Rapunzel equally save each others ass in different ways, they both gain.

Seeing how in my personal experiences, leaving a particular community to gain freedom and self acceptance has been the only way to escape repression, I found it completely believable and relatable. But as always, personal experience influences perception.

[CyberCubed]

I'm surprised some of you don't know this. Tons of lesbian women and LGBT people have been praising Frozen and Elsa's character for being the first potential gay character in a Disney film. Its quite possible Disney will go in this direction in the sequel. Elsa gets a female love interest and moviegoers are shocked about Disney "pioneering" a gay relationship in a children's movie.

We're in 2015, people, its not that farfetched to think a lesbian princess in a Disney movie could possibly happen. We're not in 1992 anymore.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I'm surprised some of you don't know this. Tons of lesbian women and LGBT people have been praising Frozen and Elsa's character for being the first potential gay character in a Disney film. Its quite possible Disney will go in this direction in the sequel. Elsa gets a female love interest and moviegoers are shocked about Disney "pioneering" a gay relationship in a children's movie.

We're in 2015, people, its not that farfetched to think a lesbian princess in a Disney movie could possibly happen. We're not in 1992 anymore.

Nobody's saying it's far-fetched or impossible. I'm personally arguing that they (Disney) may not go this route in fear of under-performing financially or potential criticism from certain demographics.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Nobody's saying it's far-fetched or impossible. I'm personally arguing that they (Disney) may not go this route in fear of under-performing financially or potential criticism from certain demographics.

The only people who will complain and refuse to take their kids to see it is hardcore Christian Soccer Moms who are living 50 years in the past and are afraid to expose "Little Timmy" to the real world. Everyone else won't care.