"Secret Wars" Event To Merge Mainstream And Ultimate Marvel Universes Together

[snake]

Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands?

(initiating Old Man Voice)

Back in my day, we had one Marvel universe, and one DC Universe in comics.

What went wrong?

Not true. Multiverses have existed since "The Flash Of Two Worlds".

[BabyTurtles]

so they revealed the new Avengers team.

it's probably gonna be revealed tomorrow to everyone but here it is early

SPOILER~ of picture with whole team~

Spoiler:

how I feel:


aaaah yea got my 2 favorite characters I'm good!

[ZariusTwo]

Now confirmed by Marvel.

Wonder if that means Peter will retire after Renew Your Vows?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

If he does, then so will I. NOT. A. FAN. OF THIS.

[snake]

I'd love for Peter to get a happy ending, where he ties up loose ends and reveals himself to all of his close friends and family. He doesn't get attacked any more or anything, he just has a happy ending while being married to MJ.

He gives the spiderman mantle to someone new, who isn't black peter.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

If he does, then so will I. NOT. A. FAN. OF THIS.

I thought you were already done with Spider-Man comics anyway?

Superior Spider-Man captured lightning in a bottle and proved you could go a year and a stretch without Peter as the core character and it works. Miles likewise kept the Ultimate Universe afloat and proved you can "retire" even a younger Peter and let Miles do his thing and it has resulted in massive cross-promotional appeal and a sizeable following.

I grew up on Ben Reily, Kane, and Mayday, I'm used to Spidey being better utilized as a legacy character than as the main attraction. This I don't mind. At all. I would rather have Peter finally grow and settle with MJ and their kid and be a part-timer and a mentor figure than the drained, un-inspirational man-child he has been for almost a decade now. If Marvel are not interested in telling that many new stories with Peter, then it's all the best they wait until they feel it is the right opportunity to again do so and give us something different.

[BabyTurtles]

the team looks so interesting!

I mean 4 adults and 3 teens! It's gonna be awesome!

also I love Kamala, Miles, and Sam so bring it on!!

Don't know much about the new Thor, but I like her outfit so there's that XD

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

also I love Kamala, Miles, and Sam so bring it on!!

That makes one of us.

IDK if it's just me, but I REALLY dislike Sam as Nova. I think it's mostly because of how I first saw him in the "Ultimate Spider-Man" show, and that pretty much ruined the character for me.

I do like Richard Rider though. He was awesome.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

That makes one of us.

IDK if it's just me, but I REALLY dislike Sam as Nova. I think it's mostly because of how I first saw him in the "Ultimate Spider-Man" show, and that pretty much ruined the character for me.

I do like Richard Rider though. He was awesome.

oh I hate him in Ultimate Spiderman too.

but then I found his comic and it was such an improvement I ended up liking him XD

[ZariusTwo]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/ar...canny-inhumans

Alonzo is indicating the Spidey from Avengers may not be Miles. Oh he's such a card.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

http://www.comicbookresources.com/ar...canny-inhumans

Alonzo is indicating the Spidey from Avengers may not be Miles. Oh he's such a card.

That better be Miles.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I thought you were already done with Spider-Man comics anyway?

Superior Spider-Man captured lightning in a bottle and proved you could go a year and a stretch without Peter as the core character and it works. Miles likewise kept the Ultimate Universe afloat and proved you can "retire" even a younger Peter and let Miles do his thing and it has resulted in massive cross-promotional appeal and a sizeable following.

I grew up on Ben Reily, Kane, and Mayday, I'm used to Spidey being better utilized as a legacy character than as the main attraction. This I don't mind. At all. I would rather have Peter finally grow and settle with MJ and their kid and be a part-timer and a mentor figure than the drained, un-inspirational man-child he has been for almost a decade now. If Marvel are not interested in telling that many new stories with Peter, then it's all the best they wait until they feel it is the right opportunity to again do so and give us something different.

Not completely done, just mostly tired of all the crap they've done to him. I gave the BND thing a shot for over a year, and it pissed me off when they basically threw his relationship with M-J under the bus with OMIT. Spider-Ock is another bad direction I don't care for, though I honestly haven't actually read anything newer than the end of the Spider-Island arc. But enough is enough, already.

I started reading the Spidey books for PETER, not Miles, or Ock in Pete's body, or Spider-Gwen, or- well, any of that stuff. Silk, Iron Spider, "new" Venom, "new" Spider-Girl/Woman- every decision they have made since the end of OMD has made me less and less interested in the comic, because it's not about Peter anymore, it's about...all these OTHER people in the Spidey SUIT. Seriously, they could give it to Deadpool at this point, and who would know the difference? Actually, that might make me want to read it again, since Deadpool is a character I at least like and care about. I couldn't give two craps about any of those others. It just doesn't FEEL like Spider-Man anymore, at this point. So if that's what they're going forward with, then I really AM done. Might still pick up Deadpool or the Avengers, but I'll just pretend the new stuff doesn't exist with Spidey.

[Shred Head]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Seriously, they could give it to Deadpool at this point, and who would know the difference? Actually, that might make me want to read it again, since Deadpool is a character I at least like and care about.

Funny thing there was a brief point cant remember what story line it was but Deadpool did become Spider-Man and wore the suit.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

It just doesn't FEEL like Spider-Man anymore.

I feel you there. As a matter of fact, someone wrote in to this month's issue of ASM asking when Slott will be replaced as history would not be kind to his era. Nick Lowe (the editor)'s exact words were "you have my permission to stop reading" and then revealed he had no intentions of throwing Slott off the book, then followed that up with "provided we're still publishing Spider-Man after Secret Wars"

I have some theories on what may happen to the books after SW. Possibly that Slott will maintain control of the ASM title (there's just way too much he's set up in it to suddenly be abandoned), but it will be set in it's own continuity while the "mainstream" Peter will be the one from Renew Your Vows who is married, but the monkeys paw is he retires for good and mentors Miles. It'd make the most sense since Marvel are on another "legacy" kick at the moment.

[ZariusTwo]

Alonzo chats about Secret Wars

http://www.newsarama.com/24245-axel-...interview.html

Interestingly, although Alonso says that he doesn't believe that the Marvel Universe, in his words, are "broken," does say that Secret Wars will introduce new characters "and, in certain cases replacing, out of necessity, some pieces that were on the board."

When asked who the "central" characters of Secret Wars would be, Alonso says that the Ultimate Spider-Man Miles Morales and Thor would be "very important" to the summer event.

[ZariusTwo]

Well, they emphasised that A-Force will be a leading team book for the new Marvel Universe after Secret Wars. That the Squadron Sinister is the new Squadron Supreme team for the Marvel Universe. Future Imperfect characters will become players, as well as those from 2099, and certain 1892 characters as well. Other books that will play a part in the new Marvel Universe include AVX, Weirdworld and the monster team, the Howling Commandoes.

And next week, we will all get Marvel’s first proper post-Secret Wars announcement, entitled “8 Months Later”…

Marvel have sold Secret Wars as being the end. This is where they start selling it as being the beginning.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/04/...-wars-at-c2e2/

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

I mean 4 adults and 3 teens! It's gonna be awesome!

also I love Kamala, Miles, and Sam so bring it on!!

Um, how about- no. Adding teens to a team of adult heroes is NOT a good idea. Especially THAT many of them. They don't take orders well, for one thing, nor do they often think before they act. Recipe for disaster.

As for Kamala- I was at my library this weekend for FCBD, and lo and behold they had the vol. 1 TPB for the "new" Ms. Marvel. I read it in about an hour- all five issues I think it was. Hated it. The characters were the most stereotypical racial tropes I've EVER seen in a comic book! Zoe, the jock (can't remember his name, so I'll just call him Flash Thompson redux), Kamala herself and her friend "Kiki" (though I gather she doesn't like that particular nickname, but I can't even remember her real one) and her father, mother, and brother ALL being the "typical" Muslim family- with "typical" roles. Ugh.

I was unimpressed from page one, but kept HOPING it would get better. No such luck. By the end, I wanted to take back that last hour or so I'd been reading it. Also, her powers- kind of suck. She's like the lost love-child of Mystique and Mr. Fantastic, with some Giant-Man thrown in. Really lame and boring, unimaginative, and- I just couldn't see the appeal of the book at all. On top of it all, they made her a HUGE geek-trope, too. Racial stereotyped mega-geek hero -teen? Please, gods, kill this now. And the "source/cause" of her powers was never even explained. The mist didn't seem to affect anyone ELSE, so why should it do that to her? Or was it because she drank alcohol? (Which she spit out anyway, so it shouldn't even factor in....) or made a wish? Whatever, it made NO sense. So many bad ideas, I couldn't help but want to shoot the writer.

If this is the direction Marvel is going now, I pity the fans.....

[ZariusTwo]

I think people's standards for reading comic books have fallen significantly over the years. I'm like this with Spider-Gwen. On an objective level, It's absolute garbage yet everyone insists it's awesome, I think they're more in love with Emma Stone and the premise more than the content. Ms. Marvel I agree with you on, even if I sort of like Kamala. The comic is one big advert for every conceivable trope on Tumblr. Every page is designed to trigger blogs, avatars, and sigs


Oh, and that Avengers issue was an absolute stinker. A shame too, as Waid's great on Daredevil, but if this is what the post-Hickman era is like, I'm not interested.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I also read the FCBD Marvel Secret Wars Preview issue, and found it was just- a mess. None of the story teasers made me want to read any of those books, except for MAYBE the Punisher/Strange one at the beginning, and the one with the X Men andAvengers all introing themselves, and Deadpool does, but no one knows who he is.

[CyberCubed]

Its rather obvious these reboots are aimed at new younger fans, mostly kids and teenagers who are getting into Marvel for the first time because of the movies. Older fans from the 90's and early 2000's are expected to move on from comics.

I wonder if fans back in the 60's and 70's felt the same way when the 80's era comics came out.