Who do you want as a Smash Bros fighter? - Page 2

Peanut · 04-08-2015, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PangolinFeets

They would have had a drop-down list if they only wanted people to vote for certain characters.

They don't care who you vote for. People who think this is honestly going to make a difference, especially where third-party characters are concerned, are kidding themselves.

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Originally Posted by RaphaeltheAwesome

Nobody seems to be voting for him, but for some reason I think Mega Man X could make it going on the Mii costume. Just seemed a little out of place.

There's absolutely zero intent behind those costume choices. This is the worst thing about Smash; everyone looks into every little detail way too closely.

Cryomancer · 04-09-2015, 12:02 AM

I don't see why they don't just start making "clones" and stuff a costume choice. All the Star Fox dudes could be on the Fox slot as costumes. Mike Jones could just be a taller Ness, and Ness could also host Lucas, Ninten, Paula, etc.

Peanut · 04-09-2015, 12:09 AM

Because the moment you start changing character models to different sizes and proportions you're creating tons of work for little benefit. You need to start changing hit boxes, which also requires retooling of a characters attributes and on and on. That's why the only shared character slots are Olimar/Alph and Bowser Jr./Koopalings. They fudged Alph's design just enough to make him exactly the same shape as Olimar and the main conceit to Bowser Jr. is the Koopa Clown Car and not Bowser Jr. himself.

Cryomancer · 04-09-2015, 12:12 AM

Yeah but you get a "new character" without having to come up with an entire original move set. And it's an excuse to bring back some of the "lost" characters too. Surely it's less work to tweak hitboxes and animations than create an entire new entry.

Admittedly, I don't really play much Smash.

Peanut · 04-09-2015, 12:56 AM

Clearly not enough to make them worthwhile, as has been stated many times by the developers. Lucina and Dark Pit both started out as skins for Marth and Pit, but because they required so many tweaks and changes they ended up becoming full fledged clones. And they're not semi-clones either, their move sets are identical, but they took enough work to create that they warranted their own spot on the roster.

I would like to see character skins as well, but I can't honestly think of many full-on new character skins they could apply to existing characters that would make sense and also require zero tuning. Even Samus' different suits would pose an issue as a skin. I honestly think they already did the ones that could work with Olimar/Alph, the Koopalings M/F Robin/WFT and the various Villagers.

Cryomancer · 04-09-2015, 01:27 AM

Makes sense!

04-09-2015, 12:02 AM	#22
Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	I don't see why they don't just start making "clones" and stuff a costume choice. All the Star Fox dudes could be on the Fox slot as costumes. Mike Jones could just be a taller Ness, and Ness could also host Lucas, Ninten, Paula, etc. __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/

04-09-2015, 12:12 AM	#24
Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	Yeah but you get a "new character" without having to come up with an entire original move set. And it's an excuse to bring back some of the "lost" characters too. Surely it's less work to tweak hitboxes and animations than create an entire new entry. Admittedly, I don't really play much Smash. __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/

04-09-2015, 01:27 AM	#26
Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	Makes sense! __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/

04-09-2015, 12:09 AM	#23
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Because the moment you start changing character models to different sizes and proportions you're creating tons of work for little benefit. You need to start changing hit boxes, which also requires retooling of a characters attributes and on and on. That's why the only shared character slots are Olimar/Alph and Bowser Jr./Koopalings. They fudged Alph's design just enough to make him exactly the same shape as Olimar and the main conceit to Bowser Jr. is the Koopa Clown Car and not Bowser Jr. himself.

04-09-2015, 12:56 AM	#25
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Clearly not enough to make them worthwhile, as has been stated many times by the developers. Lucina and Dark Pit both started out as skins for Marth and Pit, but because they required so many tweaks and changes they ended up becoming full fledged clones. And they're not semi-clones either, their move sets are identical, but they took enough work to create that they warranted their own spot on the roster. I would like to see character skins as well, but I can't honestly think of many full-on new character skins they could apply to existing characters that would make sense and also require zero tuning. Even Samus' different suits would pose an issue as a skin. I honestly think they already did the ones that could work with Olimar/Alph, the Koopalings M/F Robin/WFT and the various Villagers.