X-men founding member Iceman (Bobby) update (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[CyberCubed]

So apparently in the new X-men founding member Iceman (Bobby) was revealed to be gay when Jean read his mind:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/04/...8121c938000013

Rather odd they chose to do this when Iceman has always been portrayed as straight. But I guess nowadays you always have to have a token gay character even if its one that was established straight for years.

I'm just glad it wasn't Cyclops. When I saw the headline "founding X-men member" I thought it was going to be Beast who came out as gay.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So apparently in the new X-men founding member Iceman (Bobby) was revealed to be gay when Jean read his mind:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/04/...8121c938000013

Rather odd they chose to do this when Iceman has always been portrayed as straight. But I guess nowadays you always have to have a token gay character even if its one that was established straight for years.

I'm just glad it wasn't Cyclops. When I saw the headline "founding X-men member" I thought it was going to be Beast who came out as gay.

Only the younger version of Iceman is Gay, But the older version is straight.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Only the younger version of Iceman is Gay, But the older version is straight.

Which kinda makes no sense as this isn't an alternate reality of Bobby, but the same younger version of the current character.

[Leo656]

That's funny since Family Guy did an "Iceman Is Gay" gag quite a long time ago. Nice. Nice.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Which kinda makes no sense as this isn't an alternate reality of Bobby, but the same younger version of the current character.

Perhaps the older version isn't straight, But rather, Bisexual?

[plastroncafe]

I love the smell of bi-erasure in the morning.
No wait...the opposite of that.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Leo656

That's funny since Family Guy did an "Iceman Is Gay" gag quite a long time ago. Nice. Nice.

Yep, Here's the clip of that.
http://www.whoisthemonkey.com/videos...n-has-a-secret

[Leo656]

To be fair, his "wife" seems like a real shrew, so who can blame the guy?

Especially if she's... frigid...

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I love the smell of bi-erasure in the morning.
No wait...the opposite of that.

Well Bobby is a guy. Men are less likely to be bisexual than females. Men are either straight or gay, very little inbetween.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Well Bobby is a guy. Men are less likely to be bisexual than females. Men are either straight or gay, very little inbetween.

[Leo656]

Hah, that's hilarious.

Just as many guys are bisexual. Now, as far as girls being more OPENLY bisexual than guys, I'll give you that one. For one thing, guys are more stigmatized and ostracized for any kind of homosexual behavior at all, so you tend to have the two extremes of guys, the closeted homophobe who overcompensates by being Super-Straight, and the "Totally don't give a f*ck", "Out Loud and Proud" stereotypical "gay guys", because of the extremes of the male personality; "insecure and self-loathing" Vs. "This is me, deal with it."

Those in-between tend to not want to advertise, because guys are judgmental as f*ck anyways, they have a hard enough time "grasping" the concept of two dudes together. So getting them to understand that a guy could be into both dudes AND chicks, well, you might as well be trying to explain quantum physics. "So, wait... you like boobs... AND penis...?" They can't get it. Well, they get it if it's a chick. From the typical guy perspective, girls are "allowed" to be gay or bi, because "That's hot". But if you *have* a penis, you're "not supposed" to want to look at other ones. That's Guy Math. It's pretty fuzzy.

So yeah, the idea that there are actually fewer male bisexuals than females is probably wrong, but I'll grant that chicks tend to be more openly bisexual, reason being it's generally more accepted, because "girls kissing", etc.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Well Bobby is a guy. Men are less likely to be bisexual than females. Men are either straight or gay, very little inbetween.

So is there a reason you refer women to "females" while men are still "men"?

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Did this really need it's own thread?

[Leo656]

Yes. I am all about where this conversation is going.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Pathetic! why the hell they can't just leave things alone. I don't have anything against gay people, but ffs give it a rest. Why change a character that is suppose to have been straight since the f*cking 60s. Next it will turn out that angel was a Black man all along.

This is how bad comics are now. Kill off a character 1 issue, just to have them somehow live the next. Or change orientations of classic characters that have been around longer than most readers. INVENT YOUR OWN CHARACTERS MODERN MARVEL, then they can be how you want them from the get go.

[plastroncafe]

Can we get the title of this thread flagged for Spoilers?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Whatswiththeheadbands?

Did this really need it's own thread?

The same reason news outlets made an article about it. Bobby has been around since the 60's, of course one of the original members of the X-men being revealed to be gay is a big deal.

If this was a new character most wouldn't care, there's already been gay X-men.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

Pathetic! why the hell they can't just leave things alone. I don't have anything against gay people, but ffs give it a rest. Why change a character that is suppose to have been straight since the f*cking 60s. Next it will turn out that angel was a Black man all along.

This is how bad comics are now. Kill off a character 1 issue, just to have them somehow live the next. Or change orientations of classic characters that have been around longer than most readers. INVENT YOUR OWN CHARACTERS MODERN MARVEL, then they can be how you want them from the get go.

I think it's adorable that you're attributing this to "Modern Marvel" when this is how comics have been since their inception.

[Garfield]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Hah, that's hilarious.

Just as many guys are bisexual. Now, as far as girls being more OPENLY bisexual than guys, I'll give you that one. For one thing, guys are more stigmatized and ostracized for any kind of homosexual behavior at all, so you tend to have the two extremes of guys, the closeted homophobe who overcompensates by being Super-Straight, and the "Totally don't give a f*ck", "Out Loud and Proud" stereotypical "gay guys", because of the extremes of the male personality; "insecure and self-loathing" Vs. "This is me, deal with it."

Those in-between tend to not want to advertise, because guys are judgmental as f*ck anyways, they have a hard enough time "grasping" the concept of two dudes together. So getting them to understand that a guy could be into both dudes AND chicks, well, you might as well be trying to explain quantum physics. "So, wait... you like boobs... AND penis...?" They can't get it. Well, they get it if it's a chick. From the typical guy perspective, girls are "allowed" to be gay or bi, because "That's hot". But if you *have* a penis, you're "not supposed" to want to look at other ones. That's Guy Math. It's pretty fuzzy.

So yeah, the idea that there are actually fewer male bisexuals than females is probably wrong, but I'll grant that chicks tend to be more openly bisexual, reason being it's generally more accepted, because "girls kissing", etc.

Yeah. this is how I see it.

I saw a scan of Jean outing him by reading his mind. Seemed like a jerk thing of her to do, but I don't know the context beyond that one scan.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

I don't have anything against gay people, but ffs give it a rest.

Uhuh... I believe you.

Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

Why change a character that is suppose to have been straight since the f*cking 60s

Yeah, it's not like there are people that have been hiding/denying their sexuality for years, even having a heterosexual relationship for years and have kids with their partner before coming out.

Or, being bisexual. There's also that.