What makes Bebop and Rocksteady so perfect...

aliena · 04-26-2015, 08:31 PM

Is the fact that they are comrades. They actually have each other's backs and care about each other. You don't have that with any of the other henchmen.

Xever and Bradford always disliked each other and Baxter hates all of them. Tigerclaw is on his own and even when he was with the others he only showed some kindness to Bradford once.

It makes a difference to see bad guys care for one another. If they all liked each other as more than cohenchmen, they could be as powerful as the turtles in the fact that they would do anything for each other.

I also like the fact that they didn't just give in to Shredder and are out to get back at him. And that they are not stupid and mindless. They have grown to be my favorite mutants, after the turtles and Splinter of course.

*Sabacooza* · 04-26-2015, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aliena

I also like the fact that they didn't just give in to Shredder and are out to get back at him. And that they are not stupid and mindless.

That's one thing I enjoy about this version. They're able to think for themselves to a certain degree and they have their own agenda.

Skylanders fan · 04-26-2015, 08:44 PM

I like this version they seem like the type of charcters to leave shredder and make a dark mutanimals.Idk which one is better thought this version or the classic's

*CyberCubed* · 04-26-2015, 09:42 PM

Its not just this series, Bebop and Rocksteady have ALWAYS had a strong friendship in every incarnation. I think that's why they work so well together, they always look out for each other and actually seem like genuine friends.

Original toon, Archie and even IDW Bebop/Rocksteady are the same way. They're brothers from another mother.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 04-26-2015, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Its not just this series, Bebop and Rocksteady have ALWAYS had a strong friendship in every incarnation. I think that's why they work so well together, they always look out for each other and actually seem like genuine friends.

Original toon, Archie and even IDW Bebop/Rocksteady are the same way. They're brothers from another mother.

And they fight back against prejudice.

*Luckyday* · 04-26-2015, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

That's one thing I enjoy about this version. They're able to think for themselves to a certain degree and they have their own agenda.

Pretty much this. Bebop and Rocksteady stand out among the generic henchmen.

I really like that whole scene of them talking about what they want to do because it foreshadowing something of interest and we get a glimpse of what they're thinking about it. It was like writers realize that dialogue has it's value other then spitting out something funny or cool. There needs to be more moments like that.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 04-26-2015, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckyday

Pretty much this. Bebop and Rocksteady stand out among the generic henchmen.

I really like that whole scene of them talking about what they want to do because it foreshadow something of interest and we get glimpse of what they're thinking about it. It was like writers realize that dialogue has it's value other then spitting out something funny or cool. There needs to be more moments like that.

I loved them discussing plans, Karai, and breakfast. That poor homeless guy!

*Powder* · 04-26-2015, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabacooza

That's one thing I enjoy about this version. They're able to think for themselves to a certain degree and they have their own agenda.

Word. I'd love to see these guys turn on Shredder & go off on their own again, with or without the mutations.

*CyberCubed* · 04-27-2015, 08:49 PM

Bebop and Rocksteady are bro's before ho's, brothers from another mother, bosom buddies and best pals. They always have been and always will be in every series.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 04-27-2015, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Bebop and Rocksteady are bro's before ho's, brothers from another mother, bosom buddies and best pals. They always have been and always will be in every series.

You, sir, have hit the nail on the freaking head. Word.

*victory_angel* · 04-27-2015, 10:38 PM

In the Pig and Rino, Rocksteady did imply he wanted to use the retromutagen for himself before he covered it up by saying "Us...us....I mean so we can be human again." And as much as they do what their humanity returned they are also seeing the benefits of their mutations. Which makes them even more dangerous. And they work together because their the only ones they got and they know they would need each other to take out the Turtles and the Shredder (When they are finally able to have the opportunity to leave him) But if one of them was in a life or death situation...they wouldn't save each other unless there was something in it for them. They would simply say "It's been nice knowing you." And walk away.

*Shark_Blade* · 04-27-2015, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by victory_angel

In the Pig and Rino, Rocksteady did imply he wanted to use the retromutagen for himself before he covered it up by saying "Us...us....I mean so we can be human again." And as much as they do what their humanity returned they are also seeing the benefits of their mutations. Which makes them even more dangerous. And they work together because their the only ones they got and they know they would need each other to take out the Turtles and the Shredder (When they are finally able to have the opportunity to leave him) But if one of them was in a life or death situation...they wouldn't save each other unless there was something in it for them. They would simply say "It's been nice knowing you." And walk away.

I don't think they'd leave the other for dead though..

They're able to went through deadly trials to be selected by Karai (in IDW) together, so I expect that kind of comradery till the very end.

*Coola Yagami* · 04-28-2015, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Bebop and Rocksteady are bro's before ho's, brothers from another mother, bosom buddies and best pals. They always have been and always will be in every series.

Sorta. In this version they're kinda sorta stuck in a 'we're all we've got' situation. Ivan was Anton's boss, but now they have to kinda/sorta work together. It's still a different dynamic. For the most part, Ivan still bosses Anton around, it's just that Anton barely takes anything seriously and doesn't respect him as much as he should.

It's as if Shredder was mutated into Dogpound instead of Chris and had to work alongside Fishface for whoever mutated them as their only way to become human again. If Shredder wants to be human again, he would have to suck it up and work alongside Xever with more or less equal terms.

senpai · 04-28-2015, 12:56 AM

They're starting to really like each other now though! They will eventually be bosom buddies hardcore.

Nasubionna · 04-30-2015, 02:45 AM

Yes, I agree! Their relationship is super entertaining in all incarnations (I especially love Archie comics Bebop & Rocksteady) including this one. It seems to me like they've made great progress as friends in the few episodes they've appeared: as humans and as early mutants, they were kind of grudgingly partners in crime - Ivan was not very generous with his moldy ketchup cockroaches or the retromutagen. But in this latest episode he jumped in front of Kraang lasers to protect Anton. We know they've spent many months together, and who knows how long they knew each other before the Kraang invasion? At least long enough for Anton to shoot out Ivan's eye! And obviously Ivan liked Anton enough then to not kill him for that! I think at this point they're beginning to genuinely like one another (and there is probably very likely an element of "stuck in this together").
Basically, I adore Bebop and Rocksteady, and I REALLY adore this incarnation of them! I hope the show has great things in store for them.

*Coola Yagami* · 04-30-2015, 08:54 PM

I still like this version of the duo. Throwbacks to the 80's aside, they're still pretty much Anton and Steranko. I like that they were given very distinct personalities before mutation and that they got to keep them afterwards.

*shredder orokusaki* · 05-01-2015, 01:42 AM

I also like them a lot because unlike the stupid OI bebop and rocksteady thse these new Bebop and Rocksteady much better thant them. They are very powerful and also they are smart. Comparing them to the 80 version and to IDW we can say that so far Nickelodeon Bebop and Rocksteady are the best

*Shark_Blade* · 05-01-2015, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki

I also like them a lot because unlike the stupid OI bebop and rocksteady thse these new Bebop and Rocksteady much better thant them. They are very powerful and also they are smart. Comparing them to the 80 version and to IDW we can say that so far Nickelodeon Bebop and Rocksteady are the best

Really? I think IDW version is the best.

stayunspoiled · 05-03-2015, 07:00 PM

IDW Bebop and Rocksteady win every time.
To me they are the definitive version of the duo.

Ceres · 06-02-2015, 11:24 AM

i am probably the only one who really liked the OT Rocksteady and Bebop way better as the new ones. But this sorta comes because of new Bebop and his annoying personality and talking style, Rocksteady is halfway decent but still very awkward to watch especially knowing that he is a middle aged russian dude with a knack for smashing heads like blueberries...

What the friendship belongs...OT Bebop and Rocksteady really were bffs and this also fitted with their backgrounds of being normal street thugs. With the new versions though, the whole dynamic is a totally other thing.

Steranko aka Rocksteady is more of a boss as a friend to Zack aka Bebop. OT R and B(what a pun duh) were on the same hierarchic ladder which made their relationship with each other really enjoyable, the Nick versions though are a totally different thing which is imo not really fitting for somebody like Rocksteady and Bebop as for me they will always be bungling but lovable idiots who are dumb as hell but are one of a kind. But thats just my opinion as i said in the beginning i will be pretty alone with this statement lol.

04-26-2015, 08:31 PM	#1
aliena Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 294	What makes Bebop and Rocksteady so perfect... Is the fact that they are comrades. They actually have each other's backs and care about each other. You don't have that with any of the other henchmen. Xever and Bradford always disliked each other and Baxter hates all of them. Tigerclaw is on his own and even when he was with the others he only showed some kindness to Bradford once. It makes a difference to see bad guys care for one another. If they all liked each other as more than cohenchmen, they could be as powerful as the turtles in the fact that they would do anything for each other. I also like the fact that they didn't just give in to Shredder and are out to get back at him. And that they are not stupid and mindless. They have grown to be my favorite mutants, after the turtles and Splinter of course.

04-26-2015, 08:44 PM	#3
Skylanders fan Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: O'Fallon Missouri Posts: 109	I like this version they seem like the type of charcters to leave shredder and make a dark mutanimals.Idk which one is better thought this version or the classic's __________________ Skylanders fan on dark spyro fourms

04-27-2015, 10:38 PM	#11
victory_angel Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ca Posts: 3,108	In the Pig and Rino, Rocksteady did imply he wanted to use the retromutagen for himself before he covered it up by saying "Us...us....I mean so we can be human again." And as much as they do what their humanity returned they are also seeing the benefits of their mutations. Which makes them even more dangerous. And they work together because their the only ones they got and they know they would need each other to take out the Turtles and the Shredder (When they are finally able to have the opportunity to leave him) But if one of them was in a life or death situation...they wouldn't save each other unless there was something in it for them. They would simply say "It's been nice knowing you." And walk away. __________________

04-30-2015, 02:45 AM	#15
Nasubionna Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: western Washington state Posts: 175	Yes, I agree! Their relationship is super entertaining in all incarnations (I especially love Archie comics Bebop & Rocksteady) including this one. It seems to me like they've made great progress as friends in the few episodes they've appeared: as humans and as early mutants, they were kind of grudgingly partners in crime - Ivan was not very generous with his moldy ketchup cockroaches or the retromutagen. But in this latest episode he jumped in front of Kraang lasers to protect Anton. We know they've spent many months together, and who knows how long they knew each other before the Kraang invasion? At least long enough for Anton to shoot out Ivan's eye! And obviously Ivan liked Anton enough then to not kill him for that! I think at this point they're beginning to genuinely like one another (and there is probably very likely an element of "stuck in this together"). Basically, I adore Bebop and Rocksteady, and I REALLY adore this incarnation of them! I hope the show has great things in store for them. __________________ http://nasubionna.deviantart.com

04-30-2015, 08:54 PM	#16
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,710	I still like this version of the duo. Throwbacks to the 80's aside, they're still pretty much Anton and Steranko. I like that they were given very distinct personalities before mutation and that they got to keep them afterwards. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

04-26-2015, 09:42 PM	#4
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	Its not just this series, Bebop and Rocksteady have ALWAYS had a strong friendship in every incarnation. I think that's why they work so well together, they always look out for each other and actually seem like genuine friends. Original toon, Archie and even IDW Bebop/Rocksteady are the same way. They're brothers from another mother.

04-27-2015, 08:49 PM	#9
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	Bebop and Rocksteady are bro's before ho's, brothers from another mother, bosom buddies and best pals. They always have been and always will be in every series.

04-28-2015, 12:56 AM	#14
senpai Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: new york sewers yo! Posts: 673	They're starting to really like each other now though! They will eventually be bosom buddies hardcore.

05-01-2015, 01:42 AM	#17
shredder orokusaki Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Japan Posts: 1,522	I also like them a lot because unlike the stupid OI bebop and rocksteady thse these new Bebop and Rocksteady much better thant them. They are very powerful and also they are smart. Comparing them to the 80 version and to IDW we can say that so far Nickelodeon Bebop and Rocksteady are the best __________________ I AM THE SHREDDER!!!!!

05-03-2015, 07:00 PM	#19
stayunspoiled Thug Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 66	IDW Bebop and Rocksteady win every time. To me they are the definitive version of the duo.

06-02-2015, 11:24 AM	#20
Ceres Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Germany Posts: 601	i am probably the only one who really liked the OT Rocksteady and Bebop way better as the new ones. But this sorta comes because of new Bebop and his annoying personality and talking style, Rocksteady is halfway decent but still very awkward to watch especially knowing that he is a middle aged russian dude with a knack for smashing heads like blueberries... What the friendship belongs...OT Bebop and Rocksteady really were bffs and this also fitted with their backgrounds of being normal street thugs. With the new versions though, the whole dynamic is a totally other thing. Steranko aka Rocksteady is more of a boss as a friend to Zack aka Bebop. OT R and B(what a pun duh) were on the same hierarchic ladder which made their relationship with each other really enjoyable, the Nick versions though are a totally different thing which is imo not really fitting for somebody like Rocksteady and Bebop as for me they will always be bungling but lovable idiots who are dumb as hell but are one of a kind. But thats just my opinion as i said in the beginning i will be pretty alone with this statement lol. __________________ "Shredder, why don't you make love to me anymore?"