Dutchess of Cambridge Gives Birth To Baby Girl

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Prowler

Monarchs are politicians and also corrupt. Many people in the UK and Spain dislike their monarchs.

I'll deal with the second part here first. There are people who don't like the idea of a monarchy. Not that they HATE the Queen per se, in fact I can barely think of anyone I know who actually dislikes her as a person. Just the institution that she is part of. But I don't think we'll be getting rid of the institution in the foreseeable future, because the pro side is much larger afaik.

Okay, first part. No Royal family member has any say, control or influence over any laws or bonds produced by the British Government. The furthest it goes is the Queen presiding over the opening of the Parliament session each year, having a veto on certain new laws (which she has NEVER exercised), and inviting the leader of the party with the largest number of representatives to form a government after every General Election. It may not be the case in other countries with monarchies, but there is certainly no political corruption or influences from ours.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

I'll deal with the second part here first. There are people who don't like the idea of a monarchy. Not that they HATE the Queen per se, in fact I can barely think of anyone I know who actually dislikes her as a person. Just the institution that she is part of. But I don't think we'll be getting rid of the institution in the foreseeable future, because the pro side is much larger afaik.

Okay, first part. No Royal family member has any say, control or influence over any laws or bonds produced by the British Government. The furthest it goes is the Queen presiding over the opening of the Parliament session each year, having a veto on certain new laws (which she has NEVER exercised), and inviting the leader of the party with the largest number of representatives to form a government after every General Election. It may not be the case in other countries with monarchies, but there is certainly no political corruption or influences from ours.

Well, ye usually kings don't do anything that presidents of republican states do these days. But yes, there are different models of republics and monarchies. I don't think there's any in Europe where the king is the supreme ruler. But when it comes to republican states, you got France where they have a President instead of a PM. But whatever.

As for no corruption, well they're monarchs in the 21st century living in a reality that's pretty much an isolate island. A paradise, so to speak. tax payers' money gotta go somewhere. Not just to social welfare and all the unemployed chavs wearing Liverpool and Chelsea jerseys that seem to enjoy our sun and beaches down south.

And I don't know where in England you live, but I have met plenty of British people in my life, whether on the internet or in real life. In fact, I can just drive down to Algarve and talk to some Brits passing by with quite a decent amount of liquid courage in their bellies already at noon. Many of them are pleasant folk, though. Nothing wrong with beer. It helps loosen up people and make them more honest. And I've met quite some who dislike the queen and especially the rest of her family. And I'm talking about English folk from the center and south here. Aka the "proper" ones. Not even gonna bother mentioning the northerners and the Scots, because obviously they'll be biased and you would not take their opinions seriously. Can you blame them for their aversion, though? It's like Catalonians and Basques disliking Castille and the Spanish royal family. Gotta put ourselves in their shoes, you know? My experience though, like yours, is nothing but mere anecdotal evidence. But it seems kinda funny you, being English and all, cannot think of many examples of people who dislike her Majesty or her family. It'd be like me telling you that I don't know many people who dislike, let's say, Cristiano Ronaldo, per example.

All people who have connections to politicians and political power have blood in their hands, so to speak. Some just more than others.

[BubblyShell22]

I love the baby's name. I was hoping Diana would be part of the name, and it is. She also has my middle name of Elizabeth so that's pretty cool, too. Welcome to the world, Princess Charlotte Elizabeth Diana.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Prowler

But it seems kinda funny you, being English and all, cannot think of many examples of people who dislike her Majesty or her family.

Although I specifically singled out the Queen herself there. Other members of the Royal Family, and the actual institution itself, then yes, plenty of dissenters and people who'd like to see them go. There's many a call for Charles to abdicate when the Queen snuffs it, and let William take the throne immediately for example.

The Algarve tends to be where more of the chavvy ex-pats go anyhow. My brother's fiancée's brother, his girlfriend and her family have expensive places in Lisbon for example.

Besides, I was relating to people I know in general, which is quite wide in circle terms, but not really many chavs

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Although I specifically singled out the Queen herself there. Other members of the Royal Family, and the actual institution itself, then yes, plenty of dissenters and people who'd like to see them go. There's many a call for Charles to abdicate when the Queen snuffs it, and let William take the throne immediately for example.

The Algarve tends to be where more of the chavvy ex-pats go anyhow. My brother's fiancée's brother, his girlfriend and her family have expensive places in Lisbon for example.

Besides, I was relating to people I know in general, which is quite wide in circle terms, but not really many chavs

Well ye, you did focus on the queen. And yes, she seems to be more respected from what I've seen/heard. And her mother even more. The rest of the family seems to not gather that much of a consensus.

I'm quite a cynical guy when it comes to politics and powerful people. I just can't help it. I don't believe in neither saints or demons, though.

And it's interesting you note that, because I've noticed the same pattern. "Chavs" and such tend to prefer the beachside(cheap hotels attract them, I suppose). Whilst the middle and upper middle class folk tend to be more into city touring. Then again, I suppose every place has their own characteristic chavs. We do have quite some hacks of our own, trust me. And they're pretty embarrassing too. The English ones just happened to gain a more notoriety over others. Must be all the britcoms and shows like "Shameless" that helped it.

And yes, this is good place to live in if you have quite some money. And even if you don't; food, coffee, beer, etc. are all dirt cheap here compared to England or northern Europe. Seriously, London is insanely expensive.

I personally dislike the summer heat, though. Unbearable. And my skin hates it too.

[Klunk1234]

Dutchess? It's Duchess. I was also happy for the birth of the little Princess. I am sure William will talk to her about Princess Diana, a compassionate human being who had the admiration of every people in the world.

[Mew]

Hey, congratulations!

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Can't really get excited about this. She had a baby. Again. Like most other women on the planet have done or will do someday. Yay for her, I guess. No big deal, other than the kid's pedigree....