Avengers: Age of Ultron

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

He quit Twitter cause he needed space to work.

Yeah, right. Unless he has horrible self-control, there's no reason to delete your account.

He just got sick of being bullied by nutball fanboys and feminists.

[TigerClaw]

That's the problem when you have celebrities posting on twitter, and then saying whatever is on there mind, They should know better.

Anything they say on Social Media, Is bound to offend somebody, These people really have to keep to themselves.

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

PRetty sure they did... in that they announced Hawkeye's involvement only AFTER AoU released in Europe. As for the US, well... <shrug>

Mmnope. They announced Hawkeye's involvement in Civil War March 7th.
April 22nd was AoU's initial release date across seas.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

Yeah, right. Unless he has horrible self-control, there's no reason to delete your account.

He just got sick of being bullied by nutball fanboys and feminists.

Sure there is. He didn't want one anymore. There, a reason.
Cripes...speaking of entitled fanboys...

[CyberCubed]

He could have simply not logged onto his twitter account anymore. Instead he deleted the entire thing, which means all the visible public messages he got were gone.

[THGhost]

The whole feminists complaining about Whedon's depiction of Black Widow thing is just laughable. She got given the most character development in this movie after Hawkeye. Sure she got kidnapped at one point, but nobody would have batted an eye if it were one of the male characters. One moment of weakness instead of kicking ass like she usually does hardly makes here a damsel in distress all of a sudden. She was tied to a chair and interrogated in the first movie for crying out loud, nobody cared then. Just sayin'.

[NinjaPug]

I don't care why Whedon quit Twitter. The fact that this is a possible reason why is ridiculous. Why do people think it's ok to throw death threats at someone over a comic book movie? People need to get a life. Who cares if he killed Quicksilver or didn't put Clint and Natasha together? Also, having to rewrite your script due to a pregnancy doesn't make him a misogynistic pig for having Widow get captured. Have these people never heard of Buffy or would that just hurt their agenda?

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

I don't care why Whedon quit Twitter. The fact that this is a possible reason why is ridiculous. Why do people think it's ok to throw death threats at someone over a comic book movie? People need to get a life. Who cares if he killed Quicksilver or didn't put Clint and Natasha together? Also, having to rewrite your script due to a pregnancy doesn't make him a misogynistic pig for having Widow get captured. Have these people never heard of Buffy or would that just hurt their agenda?

^ Well said, NinjaPug.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

I don't care why Whedon quit Twitter. The fact that this is a possible reason why is ridiculous. Why do people think it's ok to throw death threats at someone over a comic book movie? People need to get a life. Who cares if he killed Quicksilver or didn't put Clint and Natasha together? Also, having to rewrite your script due to a pregnancy doesn't make him a misogynistic pig for having Widow get captured. Have these people never heard of Buffy or would that just hurt their agenda?

Agreed. Natasha getting kidnapped was no doubt because of Johansson's pregnancy. I didn't even think about it when watching the movie until the feminists mentioned it.

Joss is just tired, exhausted, burned out from working with Marvel. I doubt he quit Twitter because of the Black Widow feminists. Hope to see him back someday.

EDIT:

Just seen this:



Cliff notes: Joss has gone to "the quiet place" to start writing again. That means no Twitter for a while. We can all relax.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

I don't care why Whedon quit Twitter. The fact that this is a possible reason why is ridiculous. Why do people think it's ok to throw death threats at someone over a comic book movie? People need to get a life. Who cares if he killed Quicksilver or didn't put Clint and Natasha together? Also, having to rewrite your script due to a pregnancy doesn't make him a misogynistic pig for having Widow get captured. Have these people never heard of Buffy or would that just hurt their agenda?

This is what I was thinking else thread when someone said they'd like to shoot the author of the new Ms Marvel series because they didn't like the book.

Hyperbole or not, violent rhetoric is at least unhelpful and at most dangerous.
Though...regarding Whedon, it's all for naught seeing as threats aren't why he unplugged in the first place.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Would you get OFF that? Geez it was a friggin JOKE! No, I do NOT want to actually SHOOT the writer. Bang some sense into them, maybe, but murder? In fact, on second thought, I never actually said shoot to KILL, so maybe just a foot-shot.... Either way, you're making a big deal over NOTHING. It's done, it's old news, so GET OVER IT! Geez, you'd think I threatened to disembowel your puppy or something. (And for the record, I'm an ASPCA member, so don't even start with me on that one....)

Plastron, you seem to have this habit of taking offense at EVERYTHING people say, and it's getting really tiresome. People can't even make a dumb, off-color joke or poke fun at someone with you around, without you flying off the handle and claiming it's some kind of agenda against women or something.


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On topic: Whedon's not the first writer to get death threats over a fictional character, either- RA Salvatore got plenty of them when he killed off Chewbacca in Vector Prime. Heck, if my Red-Back stuff ever got published, I'd probably get a few too, for (spoiler alert!) killing Spidey.

[plastroncafe]

You threatened to shoot a comicbook author because you didn't like the book they'd written. Funny enough that happens to be the derail of this thread at the moment:

Fans who threaten violence towards creators who make changes to canon they don't approve of.

That you see my bringing it up, or calling you out for it in the first place, as some sort of Railing Against The Patriarchy is telling especially since I was very clear when I brought it to your attention in the first place.

You made a joke about shooting a personal friend of mine.
Because you didn't like her comic book.

What...makes that so different than people on twitter calling for Joss's head because they didn't like how the Graduation Ceremony Reveal played out in AoU?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

My apologies for offending you, oh most high one. I didn't know you were friends with the writer. And why does that even matter? I could be friends with the Pope, for all you know. But hey, if someone's going to be in the business of writing in a shared universe, they'd better have a thick skin when it comes to fan criticism. If Salvatore can handle it, I'm sure she can, too. And I'm sure I'm not the first- or the only one- to make such comments. Would you have preferred I said I wanted to gouge out my eyes and bleach my brain after reading it? Because those thoughts crossed my mind, too. Let me know which one pleases you the most, but don't expect me to do either one- because I really don't give two craps about your big crusade against "violent commentary" against entertainment creators. Keep tilting at windmills, Don Juan. It's cute. Actually, no it's not, it's just sad that you take a simple sarcastic comment so seriously.

Telling HOW, exactly? I'm not even part of the Patriarchy you're always complaining about- I'm female myself, but unlike you, I don't see every random comment from others as some kind of attack against women. I honestly don't care if the writer is male, female, trans, black, or even purple. Bad writing is just bad writing, no matter who it comes from. What you brought to my attention was the fact that apparently I'm a horrible person for making a tongue-in-cheek remark on how I felt about the writer's level of talent. I can live with that. In fact, I feel pretty confident that I won't lose any sleep over it, either.

And yeah, you're right, I DIDN'T like the book. What gets me is that the writer is supposedly Muslim herself, and should be trying to portray her culture in a positive light, but instead, all I saw were some of the worst ethnic stereotypes in fiction I've EVER seen. I'd be ashamed to write something like that myself!

Closest I ever got to it was an African-American teen who "acts" like a tough, bad-attitude gang-banger from the hood in his public persona, but when he's alone with friends, he's a well-educated, friendly, intelligent and scholarly type. Basically, he used the "street thug" stereotype as a false front, but is the exact opposite away from the street. He even got called on his "act", and told the person it was so no one would mess with his friends, because it let everyone know they were under his protection. Because if you're going to play with a trope, you might as well do it creatively and show it for the gag it is. Incidentally, his best friends are a Chinese girl, and a white girl who is the new girlfriend of the main character(Spidey's son). The other member of their group is a mutant technopath.

[Cure]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

I could be friends with the Pope, for all you know.

I really doubt she wants to shoot the pope over something petty. She's not messed up.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Neither am I. Ah well, I knew it was only a matter of time before the goon squad showed up. Some people are so predictable. And pot calling kettle black much? I've seen you say worse.


Edit: And I redact my earlier statement about wanting to shoot the writer. How about I just roll up a copy of the TPB and spank them with it instead? Will that work? Gah, so confused now- what's a girl to do?

[Leo656]

I say we split the difference and shoot Rob Liefeld. That way everybody gets what they want, and only people who deserve it get hurt. Everybody wins.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Hmm. Yeah, you're right, Leo- though I'd rather you'd said Joephisto- er, I mean Quesada. He did start a lot of the current mess the comics are in, after all.

[Ninjinister]

Saw it t'day, thoroughly enjoyed it. I don't know if I preferred this, or the previous one, yet. Might have to see it a second time to tell.

Originally Posted by Jester

Spoiler:

I thought the movie pointed to Hawkeye biting it, with the clip of him looking at a pic of his family. Maybe he WAS destined to die, and they changed it at the 11th hour. My wife wonders if it was part of the Fox/Marvel pissing match. I think I like DoFP Pietro better....if only because he had that set piece "Time in a Bottle" montage.

Spoiler:

I doubt it was that way. Afterward the whole thing smells of a red herring. Plus Pietro dying was paramount for Wanda's next actions.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Hmm. Yeah, you're right, Leo- though I'd rather you'd said Joephisto- er, I mean Quesada. He did start a lot of the current mess the comics are in, after all.

I don't give a sh*t about current comics! I just friggin' hate Rob Liefeld!

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I feel the same way about Quesada. I swear he's got a hate-on for anything Spidey post-Lee/Ditko.