Gas or Hope

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by B-Man

I have hope it'll be another fun summer popcorn flick. Hoping for anything beyond that from Platinum Dunes is unrealistic/pointless.

Why you gotta go and besmirch the good name of fun summer popcorn flick?
That's just cruel.

[SophieDem]

Originally Posted by Kanon

I would say no. They will most likely stay the same, but to save a little time for the people who make the animation, they can cut some of the "extras" they wear, for example dons ridiculous amount of tech stuff on his back.

Looks like there is no hope not to see Shrek in the next movie. I liked how they added extra stuff to them to reflect their personality traits. Yet, I found some of the stuff a little bit... exaggerating. Like the necklaces on Mikey.

[Wolfie65]

If you switch off your brain, pretend you've never heard of the Turtles before, and just take it for what it is - a cool sci-fi/superhero action flick very loosely based on a comic book - the first movie is pretty cool.
Which is precisely why the General Public loved it, the die-hards hated it.
Sequels almost always suck, I do have a queasy feeling that they're going to do exactly the wrong thing and go even more hyper-mega-ultra-over-the-top with Special FX, giant whatever, flipping cars, exploding universes and so on.
No Hitchcock, all Spielberg.

[Bry]

I'm sorry, but the second a version of "shut your brain off" comes into the conversation, you're not dealing with a good movie. You're just not. Plenty of movies about weird/goofy concepts -- even weirder/goofier than TMNT in some cases! -- are able to tell a good story that engages the audience on an emotional and/or intellectual level, with great characters in a well-realized world. That's what makes a good movie. Hell, here's a quote from Pixar's John Lasseter that sums it all up:

Every movie has three things you have to do – you have to have a compelling story that keeps people on the edge of their seats; you have to populate that story with memorable and appealing characters; and you have to put that story and those characters in a believable world. Those three things are so vitally important.

BayTurtles didn't do any of that. It wasn't a good TMNT movie, and it wasn't a good movie in its own right. It wasn't even a competent movie.

Some people liked it and some hated it, among fans and the general audience alike. And they're allowed to like/dislike it as much as they do. But I'll never see how anyone could be satisfied with it on a character/story level unless they've set their standards bar so low that any dope with a camera could trip over it. If you're happy watching 100 minutes of bad video-game cut scenes? Okay, cool, here's your movie. But there's no reason, or excuse, for any producer or director worth their salt not to aim higher than that.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Bry

I'm sorry, but the second a version of "shut your brain off" comes into the conversation, you're not dealing with a good movie. You're just not.

OH my GOD. THANK YOU. I immediately check out when someone pulls the "Shut Your Brain Off" card.

Some of us can't. AND, for being analytical thinkers who aren't afraid to dissect something (while often still enjoying it regardless) or simply look below the surface, we should be celebrated rather than demonized.

"You think too much." Whaaaaaat. I swear, I grew up my whole life never hearing THAT nonsense until very, very recently.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Bry

I'm sorry, but the second a version of "shut your brain off" comes into the conversation, you're not dealing with a good movie. You're just not. Plenty of movies about weird/goofy concepts -- even weirder/goofier than TMNT in some cases! -- are able to tell a good story that engages the audience on an emotional and/or intellectual level, with great characters in a well-realized world. That's what makes a good movie. Hell, here's a quote from Pixar's John Lasseter that sums it all up:



BayTurtles didn't do any of that. It wasn't a good TMNT movie, and it wasn't a good movie in its own right. It wasn't even a competent movie.

Some people liked it and some hated it, among fans and the general audience alike. And they're allowed to like/dislike it as much as they do. But I'll never see how anyone could be satisfied with it on a character/story level unless they've set their standards bar so low that any dope with a camera could trip over it. If you're happy watching 100 minutes of bad video-game cut scenes? Okay, cool, here's your movie. But there's no reason, or excuse, for any producer or director worth their salt not to aim higher than that.

Originally Posted by Leo656

OH my GOD. THANK YOU. I immediately check out when someone pulls the "Shut Your Brain Off" card.

Some of us can't. AND, for being analytical thinkers who aren't afraid to dissect something (while often still enjoying it regardless) or simply look below the surface, we should be celebrated rather than demonized.

"You think too much." Whaaaaaat. I swear, I grew up my whole life never hearing THAT nonsense until very, very recently.

It's why I have that Harold Ramis quote in my signature.

I shouldn't have to shut my brain off to enjoy a movie. It should be good enough to not suck.

[jenna]

Feelin' guardedly hopeful... ish. Will reserve further comment until we've see current designs / a trailer / anything to allay some of the concerns in the back of my mind.

Edit: Although, having said that... if the 'Krang' rumours turn out to be true I will quickly go from 'guardedly hopeful-ish' to hapless, violent vomiting.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by jenna

Edit: Although, having said that... if the 'Krang' rumours turn out to be true I will quickly go from 'guardedly hopeful-ish' to hapless, violent vomiting.

They're not rumors anymore. Eastman confirmed it.

[jenna]

Originally Posted by Powder

They're not rumors anymore. Eastman confirmed it.

Oh. Maaaaan. Thanks for bringing me up to speed.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by jenna

hapless, violent vomiting.

I mean Can I offer a bucket?

[Cure]

I voted for Hope, but it's not really a hopeful feeling. I saw the first one and I liked it and I like the news coming out of this one so I'm pretty sure I'll like this one, too. That's not really hope, that's certainty, I guess.

[jenna]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

I mean Can I offer a bucket?

Thanks, but I think the worst of it has passed.

[rufus]

Gave the first film and chance and did not enjoy it onebit and seeing as it is still the same producers behind the first film, going to go with Gas,IMO.

[Allio]

I can't tell if I am disappointed in the ratio in the voting.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Allio

I can't tell if I am disappointed in the ratio in the voting.

Wow. Did three optimistic people vote seven times each or something?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Vaguely hopeful that it'll at least be better than the first one. I'd like to think it will be entertaining, as I did enjoy the first one in spite of its flaws, but that it will be GOOD? Not sure how much I want to get my hopes up for that.

[sethmartin]

It'll be pretty much the same as the last. I found the last movie to be entertaining even though it was dumb and not what I wanted in a turtles flick. I have a feeling that this one will be along the same lines. It won't be a good movie or a good turtles movie, but it'll have entertaining moments. It'll be fun to see a live action bebop and rocksteady. I went into the last movie with high expectations. I'm going into this one with zero expectations so I'm sure it'll be worth a watch.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

^ Basically this. Though my expectations are little better than zero.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I guess I'd be somewhere in-between the two, but leaning more towards gas. I mean...the first one was better than I expected it to be, but I'm still not entirely sure that's really anything to brag about. My expectations going into it were so insanely low that it would have had to be, like, 'The Room' caliber to actually fly below that line. And even that might not have been low enough.

So, yeah, as it turned out, there was more to like with the first movie than I would have thought. But it still doesn't lead me to expecting much out of the sequel. On top of any returning badness we'll no doubt have, including those god-awful Turtle designs, we're going to have possibly even funkier designs for Rocksteady and Bebop. We're going to have a re-cast Shredder and Karai for seemingly no reason. We're going to have Tyler Perry in it for god's sake. All of this does not bode extremely well for me.

Granted, I'll still be going to see it in theaters though. I almost feel like I have to.

[BubblyShell22]

Pretty sure that feeling in my stomach is gas, not hope. Then again, I didn't bother seeing the first movie so I'm definitely not going to bother with this one either.