First Gokin NT-02 and NT-03 - Page 2

ctt4lfecw · 06-03-2015, 09:49 PM

Shredder I've always wanted here I come!

*DVD* · 06-03-2015, 09:49 PM

Price point will be, interesting.
The Lunar price for Krang was heavily influenced by postage. The walker will unlikely be any lighter so I'd expect a similar price .
Still, it's a good sign that the line isn't stalking at the starting line.

Redemption · 06-03-2015, 11:38 PM

Well take my money!

Agent 86 · 06-03-2015, 11:40 PM

Shredder!

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Shredder will be in the 6-7" scale.

I'm interested in Walker Krang, but I'll be saving for, and then spending my money on, Shredder first and foremost.

I really hope that Shredder is as heavily influenced by the animated design as the Android Body Krang was. I don't mind if he has a few more details in his armour (e.g. what appear to be armoured toe caps), but I'd like Shredder to be able to "fit" with Playmates' turtles.

LeonardosBane · 06-03-2015, 11:53 PM

I see a lot of confusion about the legal situation, I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure it works like this:

Playmates could sue (or otherwise pursue legal action against) First Gokin, and they would win - if First Gokin was an American company selling these in America (and in fact they would have to sue if they wanted to protect their rights). They're a Chinese company selling them in China, so the legal protections Playmates has are paper thin - they could sue, but they would probably lose. There's a lot of knock off stuff that comes out of China, and the government usually sides with the Chinese companies.

The protections in the US are different. I believe this would be considered copyright infringement. As someone said, you can't just change the name and sell something that's obviously based on someone else's intellectual property. It happens a lot with Transformers but, again, those companies are all located in China.

I for one appreciate what First Gokin is doing, and hope we see many more figures from them. Playmates really dropped the ball with their Classics line, and it's nice to see someone else pick up the ball and run with it.

Darth Knuckles · 06-04-2015, 02:15 AM

Wow these both look great! I'll have to wait and see them with actual pictures first but they look wonderful so far. Krang's Bubble Walker looks like a great modified version from the Original Cartoon just like his Android Body from First Gokin was. I can't wait to see more Shredder too! It's also very smart of First Gokin to already build hype for these right after they released their first figure in this line. Keep up the good work.

*Ninjinister* · 06-04-2015, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

they can't sue this company because they aren't using the copyrighted names that Playmates owns. 3rd party companies come up with their own unique names to keep them from getting sued.

That's not even remotely how copyright works.

*go_ninja84* · 06-04-2015, 06:51 AM

anybody have a release date?

HotJuicyBurgers · 06-04-2015, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeonardosBane

I see a lot of confusion about the legal situation, I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure it works like this:

Playmates could sue (or otherwise pursue legal action against) First Gokin, and they would win - if First Gokin was an American company selling these in America (and in fact they would have to sue if they wanted to protect their rights). They're a Chinese company selling them in China, so the legal protections Playmates has are paper thin - they could sue, but they would probably lose. There's a lot of knock off stuff that comes out of China, and the government usually sides with the Chinese companies.

The protections in the US are different. I believe this would be considered copyright infringement. As someone said, you can't just change the name and sell something that's obviously based on someone else's intellectual property. It happens a lot with Transformers but, again, those companies are all located in China.

I for one appreciate what First Gokin is doing, and hope we see many more figures from them. Playmates really dropped the ball with their Classics line, and it's nice to see someone else pick up the ball and run with it.

This pretty much is exactly what I was saying, or maybe trying to say.

If this company was making them in America, Playmates would sue and win. Since it is a chinese company, nothing will happen.

Regardless, these look good, and Playmates flat out refuses to make anything like this so I am glad they are making them. Hell, maybe this will get playmates to make their own versions to compete.

slashpieturtlemix · 06-04-2015, 01:13 PM

I am getting both of those! Also a USA company cant sue a Chinese company for rights infringement. That is why all these designing companies are in China. They don't use the name and they still sell the figures. Hasbro couldn't stop the companies so I think Playmates can't either.

HotJuicyBurgers · 06-04-2015, 02:02 PM

What was the price of the Krang android they released?

*Powder* · 06-04-2015, 02:39 PM

Between $150 & $175 for the most part.

HotJuicyBurgers · 06-04-2015, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder

Between $150 & $175 for the most part.

Thanks

I'm not sure I would be able to justify that for the Krang Walker... MAYBE for the Shredder if he looks really nice.

grizzlyaddams · 06-04-2015, 03:48 PM

I'm more of a "what's it worth to me" kind of person as opposed to its production and materials value. Having paid about $155 shipped for the Android Body Krang, it was definitely worth it, to me.

Would I pay $150 shipped for the walker? Maybe. But I couldn't decide until I had seen it's scale and detail. ~$100 shipped would be an almost instant buy though, understanding that $35 alone of the original price was shipping.

Honestly if I want the thing (whatever the current thing is) and it's a fixed price, I usually buy it. I'm not going to get it cheaper elsewhere. I paid $150 locally for Legacy Titanus without hesitation, and I probably would've paid the original $200 price if I had the money/stock was available at the time.

I routinely pay $50 to $60 for a single SH Figuarts, and scale and material wise I'm sure some people would probably balk at the price.

Hell I want a Pink Ranger Figuarts really badly but the price just keeps climbing, and people are still buying them every day despite this, so I know I'm not alone!

Over the past few months I probably put $800 into restoring and upgrading an old Amiga computer to play games on hardware that I could've easily emulated for free.

ctt4lfecw · 06-04-2015, 07:46 PM

First Gokin has my support 110%. After Krang, they will always have my support. About time someone stepped up to the plate for the older collectors. Shredder will be worth every penny. I can't wait to see a clear picture of him.

Evilcat005 · 06-04-2015, 11:34 PM

Alright!!! Didn't know this new reach you guys so fast. I was hoping for a good surprise. Any how, I hope all your TMNT fans enjoy it very much, because its hard for me to with hold such good news from you guys. Now I can relax and talk about figures with you guys.

Oh and international TMNT fans, I have not forgot about you. Once I get confirmation on the weight and size of the package, I will start the Fix rate shipping international 2-3 day express for you all again. Beats waiting for weeks from China!

Qualified Country are as follow:
Canada
UK
Germany
Australia

More country will get add to it depend on the demand of the country.

Domestic customer will still enjoy the free shipping over $150 purchase!

I have posted this news on FB as well. Please share it and follow it!

*go_ninja84* · 06-05-2015, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evilcat005

Alright!!! Didn't know this new reach you guys so fast. I was hoping for a good surprise. Any how, I hope all your TMNT fans enjoy it very much, because its hard for me to with hold such good news from you guys. Now I can relax and talk about figures with you guys.

Oh and international TMNT fans, I have not forgot about you. Once I get confirmation on the weight and size of the package, I will start the Fix rate shipping international 2-3 day express for you all again. Beats waiting for weeks from China!

Qualified Country are as follow:
Canada
UK
Germany
Australia

More country will get add to it depend on the demand of the country.

Domestic customer will still enjoy the free shipping over $150 purchase!

I have posted this news on FB as well. Please share it and follow it!

is there a release date?

*TheCanadiandrome* · 06-05-2015, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evilcat005

Alright!!! Didn't know this new reach you guys so fast. I was hoping for a good surprise. Any how, I hope all your TMNT fans enjoy it very much, because its hard for me to with hold such good news from you guys. Now I can relax and talk about figures with you guys.

Oh and international TMNT fans, I have not forgot about you. Once I get confirmation on the weight and size of the package, I will start the Fix rate shipping international 2-3 day express for you all again. Beats waiting for weeks from China!

Qualified Country are as follow:
Canada
UK
Germany
Australia

More country will get add to it depend on the demand of the country.

Domestic customer will still enjoy the free shipping over $150 purchase!

I have posted this news on FB as well. Please share it and follow it!

nice bro! ty.

overall i can't wait for better pics and a concrete release date

Evilcat005 · 06-05-2015, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCanadiandrome

nice bro! ty.

overall i can't wait for better pics and a concrete release date

No release day yet. Once there is a release day the PO will go up as well

*turtlefanforever* · 06-05-2015, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evilcat005

Alright!!! Didn't know this new reach you guys so fast. I was hoping for a good surprise. Any how, I hope all your TMNT fans enjoy it very much, because its hard for me to with hold such good news from you guys. Now I can relax and talk about figures with you guys.

Oh and international TMNT fans, I have not forgot about you. Once I get confirmation on the weight and size of the package, I will start the Fix rate shipping international 2-3 day express for you all again. Beats waiting for weeks from China!

Qualified Country are as follow:
Canada
UK
Germany
Australia

More country will get add to it depend on the demand of the country.

Domestic customer will still enjoy the free shipping over $150 purchase!

I have posted this news on FB as well. Please share it and follow it!

$150 for walker is an EASY pass for me. Overpriced, no matter how much work went into it considering the android body was the same price

06-04-2015, 02:15 AM	#26
Darth Knuckles Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mutani-Isle Posts: 703	Wow these both look great! I'll have to wait and see them with actual pictures first but they look wonderful so far. Krang's Bubble Walker looks like a great modified version from the Original Cartoon just like his Android Body from First Gokin was. I can't wait to see more Shredder too! It's also very smart of First Gokin to already build hype for these right after they released their first figure in this line. Keep up the good work. __________________ "Shredder, what have you done!?!" - Tiger Claw (Annihilation: Earth!)

06-04-2015, 01:13 PM	#30
slashpieturtlemix Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2013 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 1,259	I am getting both of those! Also a USA company cant sue a Chinese company for rights infringement. That is why all these designing companies are in China. They don't use the name and they still sell the figures. Hasbro couldn't stop the companies so I think Playmates can't either. __________________ Owner of Hkohles1gaming, kohlesgoods, and hkohles1. https://www.youtube.com/user/hkohles1 https://www.ebay.com/usr/kohlesgoods https://www.facebook.com/hkohles1gaming

06-04-2015, 03:48 PM	#34
grizzlyaddams Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Secret Lair Posts: 114	I'm more of a "what's it worth to me" kind of person as opposed to its production and materials value. Having paid about $155 shipped for the Android Body Krang, it was definitely worth it, to me. Would I pay $150 shipped for the walker? Maybe. But I couldn't decide until I had seen it's scale and detail. ~$100 shipped would be an almost instant buy though, understanding that $35 alone of the original price was shipping. Honestly if I want the thing (whatever the current thing is) and it's a fixed price, I usually buy it. I'm not going to get it cheaper elsewhere. I paid $150 locally for Legacy Titanus without hesitation, and I probably would've paid the original $200 price if I had the money/stock was available at the time. I routinely pay $50 to $60 for a single SH Figuarts, and scale and material wise I'm sure some people would probably balk at the price. Hell I want a Pink Ranger Figuarts really badly but the price just keeps climbing, and people are still buying them every day despite this, so I know I'm not alone! Over the past few months I probably put $800 into restoring and upgrading an old Amiga computer to play games on hardware that I could've easily emulated for free. __________________ My TMNT Toy Collection [WTB] MOC Gatekeeper Rocksteady Please PM!

06-04-2015, 11:34 PM	#36
Evilcat005 Thug Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 61	Alright!!! Didn't know this new reach you guys so fast. I was hoping for a good surprise. Any how, I hope all your TMNT fans enjoy it very much, because its hard for me to with hold such good news from you guys. Now I can relax and talk about figures with you guys. Oh and international TMNT fans, I have not forgot about you. Once I get confirmation on the weight and size of the package, I will start the Fix rate shipping international 2-3 day express for you all again. Beats waiting for weeks from China! Qualified Country are as follow: Canada UK Germany Australia More country will get add to it depend on the demand of the country. Domestic customer will still enjoy the free shipping over $150 purchase! I have posted this news on FB as well. Please share it and follow it! __________________ www.lunartoystore.com [email protected] https://www.facebook.com/Lunartoystore https://twitter.com/LunarToyStore Last edited by Evilcat005; 06-04-2015 at 11:40 PM.

06-03-2015, 09:49 PM	#21
ctt4lfecw Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Neutrino Posts: 817	Shredder I've always wanted here I come!

06-03-2015, 09:49 PM	#22
DVD Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Shanghai Posts: 2,066	Price point will be, interesting. The Lunar price for Krang was heavily influenced by postage. The walker will unlikely be any lighter so I'd expect a similar price . Still, it's a good sign that the line isn't stalking at the starting line.

06-03-2015, 11:38 PM	#23
Redemption Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Dimension X Posts: 624	Well take my money!

06-03-2015, 11:40 PM	#24
Agent 86 Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 152	Shredder! I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Shredder will be in the 6-7" scale. I'm interested in Walker Krang, but I'll be saving for, and then spending my money on, Shredder first and foremost. I really hope that Shredder is as heavily influenced by the animated design as the Android Body Krang was. I don't mind if he has a few more details in his armour (e.g. what appear to be armoured toe caps), but I'd like Shredder to be able to "fit" with Playmates' turtles.

06-03-2015, 11:53 PM	#25
LeonardosBane Foot Soldier Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 146	I see a lot of confusion about the legal situation, I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure it works like this: Playmates could sue (or otherwise pursue legal action against) First Gokin, and they would win - if First Gokin was an American company selling these in America (and in fact they would have to sue if they wanted to protect their rights). They're a Chinese company selling them in China, so the legal protections Playmates has are paper thin - they could sue, but they would probably lose. There's a lot of knock off stuff that comes out of China, and the government usually sides with the Chinese companies. The protections in the US are different. I believe this would be considered copyright infringement. As someone said, you can't just change the name and sell something that's obviously based on someone else's intellectual property. It happens a lot with Transformers but, again, those companies are all located in China. I for one appreciate what First Gokin is doing, and hope we see many more figures from them. Playmates really dropped the ball with their Classics line, and it's nice to see someone else pick up the ball and run with it.

06-04-2015, 06:51 AM	#28
go_ninja84 Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: st. clair MI Posts: 2,242	anybody have a release date?

06-04-2015, 02:02 PM	#31
HotJuicyBurgers Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,023	What was the price of the Krang android they released?

06-04-2015, 02:39 PM	#32
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,955	Between $150 & $175 for the most part.

06-04-2015, 07:46 PM	#35
ctt4lfecw Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Neutrino Posts: 817	First Gokin has my support 110%. After Krang, they will always have my support. About time someone stepped up to the plate for the older collectors. Shredder will be worth every penny. I can't wait to see a clear picture of him.