TMNT in Wizard - Page 2

**Karpo_007** · 06-29-2003, 04:43 PM

Im suprised Daredevil is even that high, but It's understandable if you look what are on the list behind it. Except I tought Bulletproof Monk would have deserved a better place. Didn't know it was based on a comic book By the way.

*jeff the cheff* · 06-30-2003, 02:43 PM

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I think tmnt II should be higher then number III, I dont care if Vanilla Ice was in it, and yes it was completly fabricated but look at the costumes. Jim hensen did such a great job with the first two movies, but when the third movie came out the had a complet overhaul (in a bad direction). This is only my opinion, but I'll stick by it. The 3rd movie was ninja turtles so I'll always like it but my prority is the same as they were released.

Yea... i liked tmnt II. It was awesome! I dont like tmnt III.... but if i had it my way #1 would be tmnt!!!!!!
(because it did rule)

*Mars-Chan* · 06-30-2003, 03:18 PM

WHO-HOOO!! X2 is #1! Uh-huh...uh-huh...uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh!!!

*JameO* · 06-30-2003, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffthecheff

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I think tmnt II should be higher then number III, I dont care if Vanilla Ice was in it, and yes it was completly fabricated but look at the costumes. Jim hensen did such a great job with the first two movies, but when the third movie came out the had a complet overhaul (in a bad direction). This is only my opinion, but I'll stick by it. The 3rd movie was ninja turtles so I'll always like it but my prority is the same as they were released.

Yea... i liked tmnt II. It was awesome! I dont like tmnt III.... but if i had it my way #1 would be tmnt!!!!!!
(because it did rule)

Yeah first one was the best of the three. And I also enjoyed the second one because I liked it even with Vanilla Ice and the TMNT were just great. But the third one the costumes were not good in my opinion. I still liked the movie but it is last on the list. So the order should be just how the movies go: first, second, third.

*Cascadia* · 06-30-2003, 04:59 PM

the long list has many good comic book movies on it. I agree that TMNT #1 is the better one of the three. But I would say that the second one is more entertaining than the third one.

*Taloniss* · 06-30-2003, 06:34 PM

Wasn't Fantastic Four unrealesed because it was so terrible? And it still placed higher than Batman & Robin? Oh, that's rich. That's just great.

I think Spawn and Daredevil should be placed a little bit higher than what they are, but I agree with most of the placings, overall!

~~Leo656~~ · 06-30-2003, 06:43 PM

For completion sake, and since there are those (like Shellfox, whose eternal attention to detail amazes me) who mentioned them, the Wizard article also mentioned some of the made-for-TV travesties and abominations fans were forced to suffer:

Captain America-
"Is that Evel Knievel? Nope, it's star Rob Brown, who dons the Cap mantle after he's attacked by spies seeking the secrets of his late father, the original Captain America. He's injected with the FLAG serum and given a keen motorcycle, helmet, and a see-through shield. See-through shield?"

Captain America II: Death Too Soon-
"Cap, still wearing that stupid helmet, battles a purse-snatcher and a terrorist played by Christopher Lee. At one point, Cap even fights dogs - that bend his shield! Gah!"

Dr. Strange-
"Fresh from his performance in 'Orca', impressively mustahced actor Peter Hooten dons a garish robe and sash to star as Doc Strange. Originally aired on CBS as a pilot for a potential series, this teleflick was thankfully banished to Limbo."

Generation X-
"Even though it featured Gen-Xers Banshee, Jubilee, Skin and Mondo (as well as Finola Hughes as a hot White Queen), dirt-poor special effects and the guy who played Max Headroom as the villain killed this Fox flick."

Justice League-
"This unaired CBS pilot (which has enjoyed life as a heavily-traded bootleg) featured Guy Gardner, the Flash, the Atom and 'M*A*S*H' alum David Ogden Stiers as a very portly Martian Manhunter. How low was the budget? Instead of showing action sequences, the events were reported on the 'Metro City News.'"

The Incredible Hulk Returns-
"The first TV movie after the TV series' cancellation, Lou Ferrigno's Hulk teams up with a ridiculous Thor (who has a penchant for calling the Hulk 'Troll') to stop bad guys from stealing the Gamma Ray Transponder... which doesn't do much of anything."

Trial of The Incredible Hulk-
"David Banner gets arrested after hulking out on the subway. Good thing blind lawyer Matt Murdock takes his case! Primarily a would-be pilot for a 'Daredevil' TV series, the Hulk doesn't even appear in the final action scenes!"

Death of The Incredible Hulk-
"For the last TV movie installment, Banner hooks up with a Black Widow-ish foreign spy before turning into the Hulk and plummeting from a helicopter to his death. Wait... what?"

Nick Fury-
"When you think Nick Fury, you think grizzled, badass spy. When Fox TV execs think Nick Fury, they think... David Hasselhoff."

Vampirella-
"Talisa Soto (Kitana from the 'Mortal Kombat' flicks) stars as the titular bloodsucker (a vampire princess from the planet Drakulon, in this case) who travels to Earth in a toy rocket ship to battle Who frontman Roger Daltrey. Need we say more?"

Let it be said, conclusively: Comic book characters on live-action TV: ALWAYS BAD.

And by the way, Shellfox, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm WAS released in theatres.

~~Leo656~~ · 06-30-2003, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Taloniss

Wasn't Fantastic Four unrealesed because it was so terrible? And it still placed higher than Batman & Robin? Oh, that's rich. That's just great.

You're right, FF was SO bad that it was never released.

And yes, it's STILL better than Batman and Robin, without question. I've seen some of FF, and it's awful, but it's STILL better than Batman and Robin.

The difference? The people making FF KNEW that it was never going to be released, so effort all-around was next to nothing. They had a small budget, bad actors, and a crappy script. As opposed to Batman and Robin, which had a HUGE budget, an all-star cast, and.... a crappy script.

FF is awful, but it's better than it had any right to be. Batman and Robin sucked on EVERY level, and they had a LOT more to work with.

*Brodie* · 06-30-2003, 07:17 PM

I don't care what you guys say, FF was hilarious. The Thing "It's clobberin' time...for real this time."

**Karpo_007** · 06-30-2003, 07:22 PM

I think it's availabel on edonkey network, is the movie really worth watching?

~~Leo656~~ · 06-30-2003, 07:25 PM

I DLed it off iMesh. I haven't seen all of it, but... it's bad. If you want to watch a comic book movie so you can laugh at it and say "wow, that's really bad", then yeah it's worth it. Just don't expect it to be good or anything.

Though I think it's way better than "Dude, Where's My Car?", so maybe you can use that as a barometer.

**Karpo_007** · 06-30-2003, 07:28 PM

I think I might pass... David Hasselhoff as Nick Fury made me afraid of bad comic book movies.

*Raven* · 06-30-2003, 07:32 PM

The Rocketeer is at 8 I hated that movie! it should be 88

*That Matt Guy* · 06-30-2003, 08:27 PM

The Rocketeer wasn't that bad.

Shellfox · 07-01-2003, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

The Incredible Hulk Returns-
"The first TV movie after the TV series' cancellation, Lou Ferrigno's Hulk teams up with a ridiculous Thor (who has a penchant for calling the Hulk 'Troll') to stop bad guys from stealing the Gamma Ray Transponder... which doesn't do much of anything."

And by the way, Shellfox, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm WAS released in theatres.

I did not know that about Phantasm

And in an earlier issue of Wizard, they said someing that stuck with me.
'Biker Thor and Blake the poddle'

*jeff the cheff* · 07-03-2003, 08:05 PM

what other comic book movies are there besides the 50

~~Leo656~~ · 07-03-2003, 08:52 PM

Well, there are the TV ones mentioned... other than that I really can't recall. If there are more than the ones on the list I assume they're SO terrible that they're completely obscure, because that list is pretty much the only ones I've heard of without going back to the days of movie serials and the like.

Shellfox · 07-04-2003, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Well, there are the TV ones mentioned... other than that I really can't recall. If there are more than the ones on the list I assume they're SO terrible that they're completely obscure, because that list is pretty much the only ones I've heard of without going back to the days of movie serials and the like.

Again what about witchblade, it started as a TV movie and was pretty good (as was the series)

*Raven* · 07-04-2003, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Shellfox

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Well, there are the TV ones mentioned... other than that I really can't recall. If there are more than the ones on the list I assume they're SO terrible that they're completely obscure, because that list is pretty much the only ones I've heard of without going back to the days of movie serials and the like.

Again what about witchblade, it started as a TV movie and was pretty good (as was the series)

the only thing that I hated about the witchblade serices was they only gave her the gaumlet and not the full suit! damn!

Quiller-Bee · 07-05-2003, 08:40 AM

Even though I continue to read it on a fairly regular basis, Wizard never ceases to make me laugh—many times when they're not trying to do so.

The thing that I found somewhat humorous about Wizard's "Top 50 Comic Book Movies of All-Time" list was that it included [almost] every theatrically released comic book movie ever made. (With a few debatable exclusions, like Ghost in the Shell.) That's kinda like having only three skiers compete in the downhill slalom at the Winter Olympics and then making a big deal out of the medal ceremony. Of course, each of the skiers will rank differently, but you know before the skiing even gets underway that each of the competing skiers will be getting a medal . . . so who gets the gold and who gets the bronze no longer seems like that big of a deal.

Maybe the piece would have been more aptly titled "Comic Book Movies: Best to Worst", or something in that neighborhood.

In the end, it's just more of Wizard's typically useless—but sometimes entertaining—filler material.

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06-30-2003, 07:17 PM	#29
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06-30-2003, 07:32 PM	#33
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07-05-2003, 08:40 AM	#40
Quiller-Bee Hench Mutant Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Hive - Quadrant 2, Sector 7 Posts: 264	Even though I continue to read it on a fairly regular basis, Wizard never ceases to make me laugh—many times when they're not trying to do so. The thing that I found somewhat humorous about Wizard's "Top 50 Comic Book Movies of All-Time" list was that it included [almost] every theatrically released comic book movie ever made. (With a few debatable exclusions, like Ghost in the Shell.) That's kinda like having only three skiers compete in the downhill slalom at the Winter Olympics and then making a big deal out of the medal ceremony. Of course, each of the skiers will rank differently, but you know before the skiing even gets underway that each of the competing skiers will be getting a medal . . . so who gets the gold and who gets the bronze no longer seems like that big of a deal. Maybe the piece would have been more aptly titled "Comic Book Movies: Best to Worst", or something in that neighborhood. In the end, it's just more of Wizard's typically useless—but sometimes entertaining—filler material. __________________ May you get to Heaven an hour before the Devil knows you're dead.

06-29-2003, 04:43 PM	#21
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Im suprised Daredevil is even that high, but It's understandable if you look what are on the list behind it. Except I tought Bulletproof Monk would have deserved a better place. Didn't know it was based on a comic book By the way.

06-30-2003, 06:34 PM	#26
Taloniss Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,819	Wasn't Fantastic Four unrealesed because it was so terrible? And it still placed higher than Batman & Robin? Oh, that's rich. That's just great. I think Spawn and Daredevil should be placed a little bit higher than what they are, but I agree with most of the placings, overall!

06-30-2003, 06:43 PM	#27
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	For completion sake, and since there are those (like Shellfox, whose eternal attention to detail amazes me) who mentioned them, the Wizard article also mentioned some of the made-for-TV travesties and abominations fans were forced to suffer: Captain America- "Is that Evel Knievel? Nope, it's star Rob Brown, who dons the Cap mantle after he's attacked by spies seeking the secrets of his late father, the original Captain America. He's injected with the FLAG serum and given a keen motorcycle, helmet, and a see-through shield. See-through shield?" Captain America II: Death Too Soon- "Cap, still wearing that stupid helmet, battles a purse-snatcher and a terrorist played by Christopher Lee. At one point, Cap even fights dogs - that bend his shield! Gah!" Dr. Strange- "Fresh from his performance in 'Orca', impressively mustahced actor Peter Hooten dons a garish robe and sash to star as Doc Strange. Originally aired on CBS as a pilot for a potential series, this teleflick was thankfully banished to Limbo." Generation X- "Even though it featured Gen-Xers Banshee, Jubilee, Skin and Mondo (as well as Finola Hughes as a hot White Queen), dirt-poor special effects and the guy who played Max Headroom as the villain killed this Fox flick." Justice League- "This unaired CBS pilot (which has enjoyed life as a heavily-traded bootleg) featured Guy Gardner, the Flash, the Atom and 'MAS*H' alum David Ogden Stiers as a very portly Martian Manhunter. How low was the budget? Instead of showing action sequences, the events were reported on the 'Metro City News.'" The Incredible Hulk Returns- "The first TV movie after the TV series' cancellation, Lou Ferrigno's Hulk teams up with a ridiculous Thor (who has a penchant for calling the Hulk 'Troll') to stop bad guys from stealing the Gamma Ray Transponder... which doesn't do much of anything." Trial of The Incredible Hulk- "David Banner gets arrested after hulking out on the subway. Good thing blind lawyer Matt Murdock takes his case! Primarily a would-be pilot for a 'Daredevil' TV series, the Hulk doesn't even appear in the final action scenes!" Death of The Incredible Hulk- "For the last TV movie installment, Banner hooks up with a Black Widow-ish foreign spy before turning into the Hulk and plummeting from a helicopter to his death. Wait... what?" Nick Fury- "When you think Nick Fury, you think grizzled, badass spy. When Fox TV execs think Nick Fury, they think... David Hasselhoff." Vampirella- "Talisa Soto (Kitana from the 'Mortal Kombat' flicks) stars as the titular bloodsucker (a vampire princess from the planet Drakulon, in this case) who travels to Earth in a toy rocket ship to battle Who frontman Roger Daltrey. Need we say more?" Let it be said, conclusively: Comic book characters on live-action TV: ALWAYS BAD. And by the way, Shellfox, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm WAS released in theatres.

06-30-2003, 07:22 PM	#30
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I think it's availabel on edonkey network, is the movie really worth watching?

06-30-2003, 07:25 PM	#31
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I DLed it off iMesh. I haven't seen all of it, but... it's bad. If you want to watch a comic book movie so you can laugh at it and say "wow, that's really bad", then yeah it's worth it. Just don't expect it to be good or anything. Though I think it's way better than "Dude, Where's My Car?", so maybe you can use that as a barometer.

06-30-2003, 07:28 PM	#32
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I think I might pass... David Hasselhoff as Nick Fury made me afraid of bad comic book movies.

06-30-2003, 08:27 PM	#34
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	The Rocketeer wasn't that bad.

07-03-2003, 08:05 PM	#36
jeff the cheff Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 122 and an eighth Posts: 2,129	what other comic book movies are there besides the 50

07-03-2003, 08:52 PM	#37
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Well, there are the TV ones mentioned... other than that I really can't recall. If there are more than the ones on the list I assume they're SO terrible that they're completely obscure, because that list is pretty much the only ones I've heard of without going back to the days of movie serials and the like.