Dimensions or Planets?

[neatoman]

So there seems to be some weirdness going on with the depiction of aliens in this cartoon.

Up until recently it seemed like the aliens just came from different dimensions, the Newtralizer claimed there was at least ten dimensions, implying he also came from a different dimension. However, since then the Kraang have been shown to have arrived on earth in a spaceship, the Zog clip reveals Zog came from a spaceship and the upcoming story arc will explicitly involve space.

I've heard some explainations like "spaceships" just being a primitive version of interdimensional travel but that doesn't make much sense seeing how long the Kraang have been around and how close to the present the supposed crash was. Another explaination I've heard is that the "spaceships" are meant to travel across a planet and not trough space, but then why was Zog's vehicle refered to as a spaceship?

The most reasonable explaination I can come up with is that Dimension X is just a worm farm that doubles as a storage closet and the Kraang's real homeworld is somewhere in outer space.

[Metalhead 2.0]

Originally Posted by neatoman

So there seems to be some weirdness going on with the depiction of aliens in this cartoon.

Up until recently it seemed like the aliens just came from different dimensions, the Newtralizer claimed there was at least ten dimensions, implying he also came from a different dimension. However, since then the Kraang have been shown to have arrived on earth in a spaceship, the Zog clip reveals Zog came from a spaceship and the upcoming story arc will explicitly involve space.

I've heard some explainations like "spaceships" just being a primitive version of interdimensional travel but that doesn't make much sense seeing how long the Kraang have been around and how close to the present the supposed crash was. Another explaination I've heard is that the "spaceships" are meant to travel across a planet and not trough space, but then why was Zog's vehicle refered to as a spaceship?

The most reasonable explaination I can some up with is that Dimension X is just a worm farm that doubles as a storage closet and the Kraang's real homeworld is somewhere in outer space.

Or several alien species (Kraang, Triceratons, Newts, etc) have been traversing dimensions for millennia and have established colonies and outposts throughout the universes of each dimension including what we on Earth consider outer space.

[Splinter the boss]

I understand what you are saying, but there is no doubt that Dimension X is the home of The Kraang.
Think about it, The Kraang manufactured thousands of kraang droids before the invasion, right ? If they had another home elsewhere, don't you think we would have seen kraang droids from said home, since they were giving it their all ? That is why they were all taken out and their invasion was set back for at least a day.

[IndigoErth]

Both. I figured there may be different planets within Dimension X, so if Newtralizer did come from there originally he could be from a totally different far off corner of the dimension. What we've seen could just be some outpost of the Kraang's or the remnants of either their home or someone else's they invaded and destroyed.

Background art in some shots does suggest there are plenty of stars (and presumably planets) out there, as well as nearby planetary bodies.

Spoiler:

The pink "sky" could be some atmospheric cloud they've created, or the dusty remnants of what happened to their planet. Orrr... what if they built an outpost within a "gas giant" type planet who's gasses were compatible with what they required? o.O

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Another explaination I've heard is that the "spaceships" are meant to travel across a planet and not trough space

Then why use the word "space" in it? It's like refering to a boat travelling across the Atlantic Ocean as a "riverboat", or calling a boat traveling across the Mississippi River an "ocean-liner ship".

[Luckyday]

I have to wonder what kind of dimensions are they even referring to because from general knowledge in science, dimension is not an alternate world but some sort of categorization to define the amount of space of mass in any given area.

The first dimension being a line
the second dimension is a flat surface
the third dimension is basically a cube or a ball
and I guess the fourth dimension is sort of but not really time because it doesn't interact with space.

And there are plenty others that I don't have the Ph.D in physics to explain what they are.

But this show is no Gravity Falls and and give zero ****s to scientific accuracy.

However if it did it would been an entirely different show with a hard science fiction angle.

[srmff]

Originally Posted by Luckyday

I have to wonder what kind of dimensions are they even referring to because from general knowledge in science, dimension is not an alternate world but some sort of categorization to define the amount of space of mass in any given area.

The first dimension being a line
the second dimension is a flat surface
the third dimension is basically a cube or a ball
and I guess the fourth dimension is sort of but not really time because it doesn't interact with space.

And there are plenty others that I don't have the Ph.D in physics to explain what they are.

But this show is no Gravity Falls and and give zero ****s to scientific accuracy.

However if it did it would been an entirely different show with a hard science fiction angle.

TMNT didn't come up with the idea of alternate dimensions in fairness. They've been used many times before. Alternate dimension is the same as an alternate universe or parallel universe really. The idea was used in Turtles Forever. There are many examples of words that have a different meaning in science compared to everyday meanings such as theory and sceptic. Just because a word has two meanings doesn't mean that one is wrong. Dimension can be used in both contexts.

[jenna]

Dimension X was very much an OT thing that Nick has adopted. Other versions to my recollection are less specific - I seem to recall that other alien homes such as the Utrom Homeworld were beyond our galaxy but not necessarily another dimension. I could easily be wrong - I haven't read Mirage for a while.

So as far as Nick goes, it's probably both or a poorly thought-out combination of the two.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Do you know that Dimension X was originally a US 1950-1951 science fiction radio-series?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension_X

I recall discovering that article in mid-2004. For all those years, I'd always wondered from where the name "Dimension X" came...

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by neatoman

So there seems to be some weirdness going on with the depiction of aliens in this cartoon.

Up until recently it seemed like the aliens just came from different dimensions, the Newtralizer claimed there was at least ten dimensions, implying he also came from a different dimension.

He's actually right, there are 10 dimensions, if you think of Superstring theory. Height, width, length, and spacetime are four, with extra dimensions also being more variants of spacetime. As for multiple universes, half of scientists think they exist, and half think they don't. The lowest level has your dopplegangers reside in the same plane of existence, only much father away. In another, they reside in another quantum level entirely. It gets weirder after that and filled with lots of math-based explanations.

Originally Posted by neatoman

The most reasonable explaination I can come up with is that Dimension X is just a worm farm that doubles as a storage closet and the Kraang's real homeworld is somewhere in outer space.

It could be, depending on how this show views 'dimensions' and 'universes.'