fox's fantastic four reboot - Page 14

*CyberCubed* · 08-09-2015, 07:16 PM

Does anyone outside of comic nerds care about the Fantastic Four in general? They're a pretty boring superhero team, and if they didn't have "classic" status going for them, they would be forgettable.

Why bother with them when you have Spiderman, X-men and the Avengers?

*TurtleTitan97* · 08-09-2015, 07:19 PM

That is the most ridiculous thing you could possible say.

In the right hands, the FF could become the biggest thing since the Avengers.

DarkLightDragon · 08-09-2015, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

That is the most ridiculous thing you could possible say.

In the right hands, the FF could become the biggest thing since the Avengers.

Well it's CyberCubed, I'd say it's par on course.

*CyberCubed* · 08-09-2015, 07:26 PM

Fantastic Four have some of the most boring and redundant superpowers, and were only relevant back in the 60's and 70's. The only one remotely interesting is The Thing and he's basically Hulk 2.0.

~~Leo656~~ · 08-09-2015, 07:29 PM

Yeah, I'm kind of with Cubed in this one. Sorry.

It should be, "The Fantastic 2 and their embarrassing sidekicks, Stretchy Guy and 'I Swear, She Was Standing Right Here A Second Ago' Girl". Thing and Torch have potential and are visually dynamic and interesting. That's not at all true of the so-called "Leaders" of the team.

*TurtleTitan97* · 08-09-2015, 07:36 PM

To be fair, Doctor Doom himself has stated that Susan is the most powerful member of the team.

And Reed is like, the smartest superhero out there in the Marvel Universe.

~~Leo656~~ · 08-09-2015, 08:11 PM

Yeah, they do say that.

And Batman once said Plastic Man was the most dangerous guy in the JLA. I don't buy either.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 08-09-2015, 08:12 PM

This is true. However, Reed was also half responsible for the SHRA, which as we now know, turned out to be a huge mistake in-universe. Reed thought he was "helping", but instead he made things worse for heroes everywhere. Except Howard the Duck, apparently. He wasn't affected at all, because the government's official stance was- "he doesn't exist, so we won't even acknowledge him for the SHRA, because that would mean we have to admit he's real, and it would mean too much paperwork". I kid you not.

*TurtleTitan97* · 08-09-2015, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

And Batman once said Plastic Man was the most dangerous guy in the JLA. I don't buy either.

You should read Flashpoint: Legion of Doom then. Flashpoint Plastic Man is terrifying.

*JTH* · 08-09-2015, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Fantastic Four have some of the most boring and redundant superpowers, and were only relevant back in the 60's and 70's. The only one remotely interesting is The Thing and he's basically Hulk 2.0.

Except he's The Hulk 1.0.

FF came out way before The Hulk did.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 08-09-2015, 08:33 PM

Good point. Hulk stole Thing's schtick!

Leofan26 · 08-09-2015, 10:44 PM

I laugh at how bad this film is doing, whoever decided to write up this was just.. Freak the previous films versions were better than this, in my opinion these actors couldn't act that or the people that were working with them sucked. They didn't seem much like a team, previous films did a better job with that and why can't Fox get the villain right ever? I hope Fox lets Fantastic four stay dead, this was it's best chance to re due it for better but noooo it back fires on us. Look I'm not saying Fantastic Four is the most original concept but I'm one of the few people who enjoyed the series, Flaming Tourtch being my favorite character so yah not good guy's. You suck Fox!

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 08-10-2015, 12:14 AM

Not to nit-pick, but it's Human Torch, not Flaming Torch. Or Matchstick, if Peter Parker is addressing him, LOL! Now I want to see an FF/S-M crossover movie. With someone GOOD playing the roles. That pair would be gold.

~~Leo656~~ · 08-10-2015, 12:19 AM

Like if they just did that one early story where he tried to "audition" for the F4, that'd be neat. Silly but neat.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 08-10-2015, 12:25 AM

Absolutely! I have that issue, BTW. So fun, and it fits better with the MCU than with Fox's X-verse. This is why FF needs to go BACK. They work better in that tone, and would add so much to that world.

*snake* · 08-10-2015, 12:43 AM

Watching this unfold is so fun.

The Trank Train chugs on. Poor guy will probably kill himself soon.

~~Leo656~~ · 08-10-2015, 12:44 AM

Duckie: Believe it or not, I did read a lot of Spidey stuff as a kid.

For some reason Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, and The Hulk were the characters I was the most into as a kid... probably because they were the ones my Dad was the most into, and he used to read the comics to me all the time from when I was just a baby, plus the old movies and TV shows were always on back then. It wasn't until I was about 8 and got really into Flash and Green Lantern that I started having a solid preference for DC. My Dad always kept up with Marvel since I was collecting all the DC stuff anyway, so I used to flip through his old books, especially the 80s/early-90s Spider-Mans. I kept up pretty good until the clone stuff started and I never really went back to it, or anything Marvel did. I'm still more likely to read those 80s books or reprints of the early, early stuff than anything from the last 20 years. I read some of the Fantastic 4 stuff too but it never grabbed me, unless Spider-Man or Wolverine or Hulk showed up. It's like the 4 were the least interesting heroes in their own book every time I read it.

What I used to like to do, since I couldn't read all the books, was keep up with the Marvel stuff by reading and memorizing the backs of all the trading cards.

My Dad was an obsessive card collector, he had like every series of the cards, so I'd keep up that way. I liked how they'd measure all the characters' Power and Intelligence levels and stuff, that was neat.

*THGhost* · 08-10-2015, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snake

Watching this unfold is so fun.

The Trank Train chugs on. Poor guy will probably kill himself soon.

DarkLightDragon · 08-10-2015, 09:52 AM

As someone who isn't a big FF fan either, but can't help to not look away from this trainwreck of a movie and it's fallout, I can't begin to imagine how they'd f*ck up other FF characters like Galactus than making him some big doom-cloud in the last movie.

I mean, if they couldn't make Doom's iconic look imposing, then I can't see how more or less ridiculous they'd make Galactus. Cause a a cloud is pretty much the standard of "ridiculous idea for a main villain or Big Bad" you could possibly push so far.

*TigerClaw* · 08-10-2015, 10:44 AM

Check out the B-Roll footage from the Fantastic Four movie, it has stuff I heard was cut from the movie.

08-09-2015, 07:19 PM	#262
TurtleTitan97 Space Cowboy Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Speed Force Posts: 7,043	That is the most ridiculous thing you could possible say. In the right hands, the FF could become the biggest thing since the Avengers. __________________

08-09-2015, 07:36 PM	#266
TurtleTitan97 Space Cowboy Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Speed Force Posts: 7,043	To be fair, Doctor Doom himself has stated that Susan is the most powerful member of the team. And Reed is like, the smartest superhero out there in the Marvel Universe. __________________

08-09-2015, 08:12 PM	#268
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	This is true. However, Reed was also half responsible for the SHRA, which as we now know, turned out to be a huge mistake in-universe. Reed thought he was "helping", but instead he made things worse for heroes everywhere. Except Howard the Duck, apparently. He wasn't affected at all, because the government's official stance was- "he doesn't exist, so we won't even acknowledge him for the SHRA, because that would mean we have to admit he's real, and it would mean too much paperwork". I kid you not. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

08-09-2015, 08:33 PM	#271
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	Good point. Hulk stole Thing's schtick! __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

08-10-2015, 12:14 AM	#273
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	Not to nit-pick, but it's Human Torch, not Flaming Torch. Or Matchstick, if Peter Parker is addressing him, LOL! Now I want to see an FF/S-M crossover movie. With someone GOOD playing the roles. That pair would be gold. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

08-09-2015, 07:16 PM	#261
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,883	Does anyone outside of comic nerds care about the Fantastic Four in general? They're a pretty boring superhero team, and if they didn't have "classic" status going for them, they would be forgettable. Why bother with them when you have Spiderman, X-men and the Avengers?

08-09-2015, 07:26 PM	#264
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,883	Fantastic Four have some of the most boring and redundant superpowers, and were only relevant back in the 60's and 70's. The only one remotely interesting is The Thing and he's basically Hulk 2.0.

08-09-2015, 07:29 PM	#265
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Yeah, I'm kind of with Cubed in this one. Sorry. It should be, "The Fantastic 2 and their embarrassing sidekicks, Stretchy Guy and 'I Swear, She Was Standing Right Here A Second Ago' Girl". Thing and Torch have potential and are visually dynamic and interesting. That's not at all true of the so-called "Leaders" of the team.

08-09-2015, 08:11 PM	#267
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Yeah, they do say that. And Batman once said Plastic Man was the most dangerous guy in the JLA. I don't buy either.

08-09-2015, 10:44 PM	#272
Leofan26 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,306	I laugh at how bad this film is doing, whoever decided to write up this was just.. Freak the previous films versions were better than this, in my opinion these actors couldn't act that or the people that were working with them sucked. They didn't seem much like a team, previous films did a better job with that and why can't Fox get the villain right ever? I hope Fox lets Fantastic four stay dead, this was it's best chance to re due it for better but noooo it back fires on us. Look I'm not saying Fantastic Four is the most original concept but I'm one of the few people who enjoyed the series, Flaming Tourtch being my favorite character so yah not good guy's. You suck Fox!

08-10-2015, 12:19 AM	#274
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Like if they just did that one early story where he tried to "audition" for the F4, that'd be neat. Silly but neat.

08-10-2015, 12:25 AM	#275
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	Absolutely! I have that issue, BTW. So fun, and it fits better with the MCU than with Fox's X-verse. This is why FF needs to go BACK. They work better in that tone, and would add so much to that world. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

08-10-2015, 12:43 AM	#276
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Watching this unfold is so fun. The Trank Train chugs on. Poor guy will probably kill himself soon.

08-10-2015, 12:44 AM	#277
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Duckie: Believe it or not, I did read a lot of Spidey stuff as a kid. For some reason Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, and The Hulk were the characters I was the most into as a kid... probably because they were the ones my Dad was the most into, and he used to read the comics to me all the time from when I was just a baby, plus the old movies and TV shows were always on back then. It wasn't until I was about 8 and got really into Flash and Green Lantern that I started having a solid preference for DC. My Dad always kept up with Marvel since I was collecting all the DC stuff anyway, so I used to flip through his old books, especially the 80s/early-90s Spider-Mans. I kept up pretty good until the clone stuff started and I never really went back to it, or anything Marvel did. I'm still more likely to read those 80s books or reprints of the early, early stuff than anything from the last 20 years. I read some of the Fantastic 4 stuff too but it never grabbed me, unless Spider-Man or Wolverine or Hulk showed up. It's like the 4 were the least interesting heroes in their own book every time I read it. What I used to like to do, since I couldn't read all the books, was keep up with the Marvel stuff by reading and memorizing the backs of all the trading cards. My Dad was an obsessive card collector, he had like every series of the cards, so I'd keep up that way. I liked how they'd measure all the characters' Power and Intelligence levels and stuff, that was neat.

08-10-2015, 09:52 AM	#279
DarkLightDragon Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,026	As someone who isn't a big FF fan either, but can't help to not look away from this trainwreck of a movie and it's fallout, I can't begin to imagine how they'd f*ck up other FF characters like Galactus than making him some big doom-cloud in the last movie. I mean, if they couldn't make Doom's iconic look imposing, then I can't see how more or less ridiculous they'd make Galactus. Cause a a cloud is pretty much the standard of "ridiculous idea for a main villain or Big Bad" you could possibly push so far.

08-10-2015, 10:44 AM	#280
TigerClaw Mutant Tiger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hialeah, Florida, USA Posts: 14,165	Check out the B-Roll footage from the Fantastic Four movie, it has stuff I heard was cut from the movie. __________________ Follow me on my Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@tygerclaw305 Last edited by TigerClaw; 08-10-2015 at 10:50 AM.