DC Comics' Vixen: The Animated Series - Page 4

~~Leo656~~ · 08-21-2015, 10:09 PM

She originally grew up in Africa in the comics, so... yeah, not to be "weird" about it, but, she'd definitely be a LOT darker than that.

It's a dirty little secret of the entertainment industry that they prefer heroic characters to be an "acceptable" level of black, in both appearance and behavior. Sounds awful but I swear to you it's true. I don't get it frankly; I get why it started a long time ago but you'd hope we were over it now. In this kind of case, in particular, it kind of gets into "why bother?" territory. Her heritage is like 90% of her character; really undermines the whole thing if you go out of your way to "lighten her up", in my opinion.

I can imagine the conversation behind it, though. It's tough to get a show approved with either a female lead or a minority lead. A show with both, something's gotta give. That's just way to much "progressiveness" all at once for the average entertainment executive to wrap their heads around.

Ah well. The art on the whole is pretty nice though.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-21-2015, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

She originally grew up in Africa in the comics, so... yeah, not to be "weird" about it, but, she'd definitely be a LOT darker than that.

It's a dirty little secret of the entertainment industry that they prefer heroic characters to be an "acceptable" level of black, in both appearance and behavior. Sounds awful but I swear to you it's true. I don't get it frankly; I get why it started a long time ago but you'd hope we were over it now. In this kind of case, in particular, it kind of gets into "why bother?" territory. Her heritage is like 90% of her character; really undermines the whole thing if you go out of your way to "lighten her up", in my opinion.

I can imagine the conversation behind it, though. It's tough to get a show approved with either a female lead or a minority lead. A show with both, something's gotta give. That's just way to much "progressiveness" all at once for the average entertainment executive to wrap their heads around.

Ah well. The art on the whole is pretty nice though.

yea...seriously sucks....I mean I showed this to my mom (we are black) and she instantly asked if she was half white. I told her she was straight from Africa and both her parents were black (unless I missed something) and she said "yea sure."

LOL My mom is light skinned herself...but this vixen's skin is probably the only thing that makes her black...so making that light isn't really helping.....

but...if you complain too much then they are gonna think we just don't want a black female lead....so...we gotta watch and make sure they know we want diversity, cause representation is important....all we can do is hope they see the problem and do better in the future (that rare chance we even get another animated black hero show)

the art is nice~ I'm glad it looks like Young Justice~ and she does look like she can kick a lot of butt!

*Raph's Girl* · 08-21-2015, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

here's some new footage~ Vixen looking strong~

Arrow: "Stop!"
Vixen: "I know, I know. I failed my city!"

Can't wait for Tuesday!

Vixen looks more hispanic than anything else...

~~Leo656~~ · 08-21-2015, 11:16 PM

Yeah, I could see that. She's pretty off-model on the whole. Well-drawn but it really doesn't look like her at all.

She's got the necklace, the rest is just whatever.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-21-2015, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Yeah, I could see that. She's pretty off-model on the whole. Well-drawn but it really doesn't look like her at all.

She's got the necklace, the rest is just whatever.

If she looked more like this...it would have been nice... (except with shorter hair)

~~Leo656~~ · 08-21-2015, 11:37 PM

I'm generally just a bigger fan of her 80s look because that's the period where I followed her the most because of Justice League. I don't think the haircut would make the cut nowadays, though.

But the 80s costume with the 2008 haircut would also be fine. Her modern outfits are definitely "eye-catching" and that's just fine with me, for sure, but it also doesn't seem like the kind of thing that character would actually wear. She never seemed all that "showy", back in the day, so it seemed odd to see her suddenly rocking the shirt cut to the navel and cleavage everywhere.

Not at all complaining, mind you. Just never seemed like a costume choice that specific character would have made for herself.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-21-2015, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

I'm generally just a bigger fan of her 80s look because that's the period where I followed her the most because of Justice League. I don't think the haircut would make the cut nowadays, though.

But the 80s costume with the 2008 haircut would also be fine. Her modern outfits are definitely "eye-catching" and that's just fine with me, for sure, but it also doesn't seem like the kind of thing that character would actually wear. She never seemed all that "showy", back in the day, so it seemed odd to see her suddenly rocking the shirt cut to the navel and cleavage everywhere.

Not at all complaining, mind you. Just never seemed like a costume choice that specific character would have made for herself.

All I know is her JLA costume (and anything that resembles that)....and that one never appealed to me. (cause it's too revealing....I know I can't help it)

I don't mind this new one though (with the tiger stripes) it looks good to me.
It's just her I have the problem with.

~~Leo656~~ · 08-22-2015, 12:05 AM

You never read JLA Detroit Vixen? That's like the character's Golden Age. After that she did a ton of nothing for about 15 years, then got a little push about 8 years ago but didn't actually do a whole lot, so... yeah 80s Vixen is pretty much the high point.

Not altogether too different from the newer look - she's actually had a lot of costumes - but even though it's kind of "flashy" it's still within reason and pretty standard for comic book fashion of the day. They basically removed the whole top half of her outfit and replaced it with suspenders when they brought her back a few years ago.

I don't pay attention to New 52 more than a little bit so I have zero idea what she's been wearing lately.

I think they'd definitely have to update the "Flock of Seagulls" haircut she used to have but the 80s costume still holds up.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-22-2015, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

You never read JLA Detroit Vixen? That's like the character's Golden Age. After that she did a ton of nothing for about 15 years, then got a little push about 8 years ago but didn't actually do a whole lot, so... yeah 80s Vixen is pretty much the high point.
http://i785.photobucket.com/albums/y...rCardFront.jpg

Not altogether too different from the newer look - she's actually had a lot of costumes - but even though it's kind of "flashy" it's still within reason and pretty standard for comic book fashion of the day. They basically removed the whole top half of her outfit and replaced it with suspenders when they brought her back a few years ago.

I don't pay attention to New 52 more than a little bit so I have zero idea what she's been wearing lately.

I think they'd definitely have to update the "Flock of Seagulls" haircut she used to have but the 80s costume still holds up.

whoa...those shoes........dat hair. (reminds me of wolverine)

I think her batman brave and the bold outfit looked pretty good~ (except that collar....so high.......so popped)

plus I like black lipstick~ and her top isn't too revealing...

~~Leo656~~ · 08-22-2015, 12:28 AM

Popped collars are the bomb, you're too young to know any better so I'll let that comment slide.

Vixen, Deadman, Booster Gold and Nightwing all disagree with you about popped collars, and we'll just leave it at that.

Never NOT bad-ass. It actually takes a REAL man to pull off that kind of sh*t in the first place.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-22-2015, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Popped collars are the bomb, you're too young to know any better so I'll let that comment slide.

Vixen, Deadman, Booster Gold and Nightwing all disagree with you about popped collars, and we'll just leave it at that.

http://www.brendanmckillip.com/blog/...htwingOld2.jpg
Never NOT bad-ass. It actually takes a REAL man to pull off that kind of sh*t in the first place.

My youth curses me

.....I cannot see a popped collar as anything but uncool...

Your wise older mind thinks this

While my youth thinks this

*snake* · 08-22-2015, 12:38 AM

Popped collars are f*cking rad

Up there with single shoulder pads, leather jackets, and blue and red 3d glasses for me

~~Leo656~~ · 08-22-2015, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

My youth curses me

.....I cannot see a popped collar as anything but uncool...

Your wise older mind thinks this
http://33.media.tumblr.com/97b372ef3...f7q1o1_540.gif

While my youth thinks this
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20150206161702

Blasphemy. If I happened to bother wearing collared shirts I'd be popping my collar right now in defiance of your insolence.

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Originally Posted by snake

Popped collars are f*cking rad

Up there with single shoulder pads, leather jackets, and blue and red 3d glasses for me

This dude gets it!

Meanwhile...

Yeah, pretty sure I win.

Booooooooooosterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Gooooooooooooollllllllllllllld!!!!

*BabyTurtles* · 08-22-2015, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Blasphemy. If I happened to bother wearing collared shirts I'd be popping my collar right now in defiance of your insolence.

This dude gets it!

Meanwhile...
http://pre06.deviantart.net/f0d1/th/...ds-d4yebyx.jpg

Yeah, pretty sure I win.

Booooooooooosterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Gooooooooooooollllllllllllllld!!!!

Well I can't beat that, I surrender.

seriously though he doesn't look that bad XD

~~Leo656~~ · 08-22-2015, 12:45 AM

He is Legend. Greatest of all time. Literally. All Hail.

*Raph's Girl* · 08-22-2015, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

He is Legend. Greatest of all time. Literally. All Hail.

And his son is a timelord/master this winter on Legends of Tomorrow!

*BabyTurtles* · 08-24-2015, 11:05 AM

Just a reminder~ Vixen airs tomorrow (Tuesday 8/25)

*Raph's Girl* · 08-24-2015, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Just a reminder~ Vixen airs tomorrow (Tuesday 8/25)

The episode will probably be up at midnight ET tho.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-25-2015, 02:07 AM

Saw the first episode~

...ARRGG...it was too short....

*Raph's Girl* · 08-25-2015, 02:10 AM

Just as I feared. Only 5 min long. *sighs* Ah well... it was an interesting start at least.

08-24-2015, 11:05 AM	#77
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08-25-2015, 02:07 AM	#79
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08-25-2015, 02:10 AM	#80
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	Just as I feared. Only 5 min long. sighs Ah well... it was an interesting start at least. __________________

08-21-2015, 10:09 PM	#61
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	She originally grew up in Africa in the comics, so... yeah, not to be "weird" about it, but, she'd definitely be a LOT darker than that. It's a dirty little secret of the entertainment industry that they prefer heroic characters to be an "acceptable" level of black, in both appearance and behavior. Sounds awful but I swear to you it's true. I don't get it frankly; I get why it started a long time ago but you'd hope we were over it now. In this kind of case, in particular, it kind of gets into "why bother?" territory. Her heritage is like 90% of her character; really undermines the whole thing if you go out of your way to "lighten her up", in my opinion. I can imagine the conversation behind it, though. It's tough to get a show approved with either a female lead or a minority lead. A show with both, something's gotta give. That's just way to much "progressiveness" all at once for the average entertainment executive to wrap their heads around. Ah well. The art on the whole is pretty nice though.

08-21-2015, 11:16 PM	#64
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Yeah, I could see that. She's pretty off-model on the whole. Well-drawn but it really doesn't look like her at all. She's got the necklace, the rest is just whatever.

08-21-2015, 11:37 PM	#66
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I'm generally just a bigger fan of her 80s look because that's the period where I followed her the most because of Justice League. I don't think the haircut would make the cut nowadays, though. But the 80s costume with the 2008 haircut would also be fine. Her modern outfits are definitely "eye-catching" and that's just fine with me, for sure, but it also doesn't seem like the kind of thing that character would actually wear. She never seemed all that "showy", back in the day, so it seemed odd to see her suddenly rocking the shirt cut to the navel and cleavage everywhere. Not at all complaining, mind you. Just never seemed like a costume choice that specific character would have made for herself.

08-22-2015, 12:05 AM	#68
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	You never read JLA Detroit Vixen? That's like the character's Golden Age. After that she did a ton of nothing for about 15 years, then got a little push about 8 years ago but didn't actually do a whole lot, so... yeah 80s Vixen is pretty much the high point. Not altogether too different from the newer look - she's actually had a lot of costumes - but even though it's kind of "flashy" it's still within reason and pretty standard for comic book fashion of the day. They basically removed the whole top half of her outfit and replaced it with suspenders when they brought her back a few years ago. I don't pay attention to New 52 more than a little bit so I have zero idea what she's been wearing lately. I think they'd definitely have to update the "Flock of Seagulls" haircut she used to have but the 80s costume still holds up.

08-22-2015, 12:28 AM	#70
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Popped collars are the bomb, you're too young to know any better so I'll let that comment slide. Vixen, Deadman, Booster Gold and Nightwing all disagree with you about popped collars, and we'll just leave it at that. Never NOT bad-ass. It actually takes a REAL man to pull off that kind of sh*t in the first place.

08-22-2015, 12:38 AM	#72
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Popped collars are f*cking rad Up there with single shoulder pads, leather jackets, and blue and red 3d glasses for me

08-22-2015, 12:45 AM	#75
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	He is Legend. Greatest of all time. Literally. All Hail.