Fantastic Four coming back to Marvel Studios debunked

[TigerClaw]

Take this with a grain of salt, but there's word that Fantastic Four is coming back to Marvel Studios. This was part of a deal that Fox made with Marvel, to get the TV rights for the X-Men.
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/fant...anned-for-2020

[TurtleTitan97]

Dang it, TigerClaw, you had me believing this had actually been confirmed for real with that thread title. Way to get my hopes up LOL.

Would make sense if they did. It would be foolish for Fox to actually make a sequel. Hope it turns out true.

[NinjaPug]

I think people are jumping to conclusions on this. Didn't Marvel Studios and Marvel TV just split? Marvel Studios broke away from Marvel completely. With all the rumors that there is bad blood between the two it doesn't really make sense that Marvel TV would give up something for Marvel Studios.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Please be true... PLEASE be true.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Also, let's hope the Skrulls were included in that deal, too.

[JakeSully]

Awesome man.

Fox should stick to X-Men and give up F4, i mean Fox has done great with X-Men on 1, 2, First Class, DOFP and Deadpool looks promising as it should be R-rated gory darkly comical action fun and can wash F4's bad taste from our mouths.

F4 is better off with Marvel as we can have Thing vs Hulk, Reed Richards and Tony Stark in a boardroom meeting, Dr. Doom and Galactus as MCU villains even Doom as a Avengers or Spider-Man baddie. Silver Surfer and Skrulls in Guardians sequels.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by JakeSully

Awesome man.

Fox should stick to X-Men and give up F4, i mean Fox has done great with X-Men on 1, 2, First Class, DOFP and Deadpool looks promising as it should be R-rated gory darkly comical action fun and can wash F4's bad taste from our mouths.

F4 is better off with Marvel as we can have Thing vs Hulk, Reed Richards and Tony Stark in a boardroom meeting, Dr. Doom and Galactus as MCU villains even Doom as a Avengers or Spider-Man baddie. Silver Surfer and Skrulls in Guardians sequels.

I can see Galactus being the next big baddie after Thanos.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I can see Galactus being the next big baddie after Thanos.

Or Kang. Or the Skrull invasion.

Honestly, there's Avengers 4, 5, and 6 for you right there.

[NinjaPug]

As expected, this rumor has been debunked.

It never made sense to begin with.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

As expected, this rumor has been debunked.

It never made sense to begin with.

Aw crude...

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

As expected, this rumor has been debunked.

It never made sense to begin with.

Link to debunk, please?

If so, disappointing.

[Amaranthus]

MCU sucks. Get over yourself, Jake.

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Link to debunk, please?

If so, disappointing.

http://comicbook.com/2015/10/15/offi...remain-at-fox/

There are a bunch of reliable folks saying the same thing on Twitter too but they aren't going to waste their time writing an article because the rumor was ridiculous.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

http://comicbook.com/2015/10/15/offi...remain-at-fox/

There are a bunch of reliable folks saying the same thing on Twitter too but they aren't going to waste their time writing an article because the rumor was ridiculous.

Well, that's unfortunate.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

I think people are jumping to conclusions on this. Didn't Marvel Studios and Marvel TV just split? Marvel Studios broke away from Marvel completely. With all the rumors that there is bad blood between the two it doesn't really make sense that Marvel TV would give up something for Marvel Studios.

Trouble in Asgard?

Hadn't heard about this until now, but the internet is definitely buzzing...
http://whatculture.com/film/5-tellta...to-implode.php

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

http://comicbook.com/2015/10/15/offi...remain-at-fox/

There are a bunch of reliable folks saying the same thing on Twitter too but they aren't going to waste their time writing an article because the rumor was ridiculous.

The rumor is not ridiculous; it is actually quite possible.

Marvel wants all of its characters back: fact.
Fox wants to expand the X-Men brand: fact.
Fox is saddled with a lot of characters it can't use properly or has burned: fact.
Marvel has no interest in letting Fox promote X-Men without getting something in exchange: fact.
Marvel has previously tried to get the rights to Doom, Galactus, et al: fact.

So yeah... TOTALLY ridiculous.

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

The rumor is not ridiculous; it is actually quite possible.

Marvel wants all of its characters back: fact.
Fox wants to expand the X-Men brand: fact.
Fox is saddled with a lot of characters it can't use properly or has burned: fact.
Marvel has no interest in letting Fox promote X-Men without getting something in exchange: fact.
Marvel has previously tried to get the rights to Doom, Galactus, et al: fact.

So yeah... TOTALLY ridiculous.

Giving up the film rights to F4 to simply get the greenlight from Marvel to make these shows is ridiculous. I'm not saying Marvel doesn't want them but the way this deal was laid out made no sense. This is just a money deal for Marvel.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Giving up the film rights to F4 to simply get the greenlight from Marvel to make these shows is ridiculous. I'm not saying Marvel doesn't want them but the way this deal was laid out made no sense. This is just a money deal for Marvel.

No, it really doesn't qualify as ridiculous. I mean, sure, Fox could try to hold out for a better position, but they've poisoned the well of FF.

And yes, it's a moot point as this was debunked.

Now, if someone reported that Fox had sold the X-Men rights back to Marvel... THAT would be RIDICULOUS.

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

No, it really doesn't qualify as ridiculous. I mean, sure, Fox could try to hold out for a better position, but they've poisoned the well of FF.

And yes, it's a moot point as this was debunked.

Now, if someone reported that Fox had sold the X-Men rights back to Marvel... THAT would be RIDICULOUS.

I don't think we're looking at it the same way. I'm just looking at it from a business standpoint.

The film rights to a property like F4 (no matter how much the most recent one tanked) is a whole lot more valuable than getting an OK to do two shows about lesser characters set in the X-verse. Marvel isn't even giving Fox anything of value in this deal - just their approval to use characters. Fox just isn't going to give up those film rights esp when they see what Marvel did with their lost Daredevil rights. Best case scenario is for them to strike a Sony type deal.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

The film rights to a property like F4 (no matter how much the most recent one tanked) is a whole lot more valuable than getting an OK to do two shows about lesser characters set in the X-verse.

How valuable are the words "A new Fantastic Four film by Fox?"

None of them were ever any good. People understand what is and isn't Marvel Studios-made.

Meanwhile their X-Men franchise is still going so strong that they can reboot the whole universe and people will still pay to see the films.

I think it'd be a logical trade.