Batman V. Superman: Dawn Of Justice

[Krutch]

Watched the trailer with an open mind and my opinion remains even more solidified that Affleck's performance will be the only thing I'll be able to enjoy in this movie.

I'm glad other people seem to enjoy it, though. Honestly.

It's just so not my kind of movie.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I wonder if they'll "kill" Supes...

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

They won't.

Which makes Doomsday's involvement fairly puzzling (especially since it's doubtful he'll be left at large by the movie's end to later on meet Superman again and kill him down the road). That's Doomsday's thing. He's the thing that kills Superman. That's what he's known for.

They should've brought in Warworld and Mongul. Or the Parasite. Or Metallo.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I know some people want Riddler to be played by Johnny Depp.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

I know some people want Riddler to be played by Johnny Depp.

I think he could actually do fairly well at it... what was the last gangster movie he did? Whatever it was, he was decent in it. Fairly intimidating.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

I know some people want Riddler to be played by Johnny Depp.

Isn't Johnny Depp like 50 years old now? Maybe if this was 10-15 years ago.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

To be fair, this has been said since the Dark Knight trilogy. Some wanted the Riddler to be the villain in The Dark Knight Rises since they think he would have been the one who would set the stakes up higher than Bane ever could.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

To be fair, this has been said since the Dark Knight trilogy. Some wanted the Riddler to be the villain in The Dark Knight Rises since they think he would have been the one who would set the stakes up higher than Bane ever could.

Hell, WARNER BROTHERS wanted Riddler to be the villain in The Dark Knight Rises, played by DiCaprio.

Honestly, as great as it would've been, I think Bane was a much more interesting choice. Nolan did wonders for the character after B&R.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Some wanted the Riddler to be the villain in The Dark Knight Rises since they think he would have been the one who would set the stakes up higher than Bane ever could.

I don't see how that's possible. And the Riddler is hardly ever portrayed as anything other than a meddling pest with a riddle gimmick.

The cool thing about new Batman movies and the new DC Cinematic Universe is, as much redemption as Nolan may have done for the character and I loved TDKR, we might actually get an actual comic book Bane. The thinker, the uber-underworld boss, and venom that's not portrayed as silly as it was in B&R.



And maybe actually -- gasp -- played by a Hispanic this time. My vote is Javier Bardem.

[CyberCubed]

The Riddler from the Arkham videogames is handled well, he's in all 4 games too doing the same thing.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The Riddler from the Arkham videogames is handled well, he's in all 4 games too doing the same thing.

Yeah, but there's a reason he's not really a boss in any of them. A movie of nothing but Batman solving riddles until he easily punches the Riddler in the face wouldn't be much of a movie. Even Batman Forever had to saddle him with Two-Face, who could carry a movie on his own.

If they ever do like a Batman villain team up movie, or some version of Knightfall, sure, he could be in the mix. But I don't really see him outside of that.

[Foombamaroom]

I'm really excited for this now. It looks better than MoS, especially now that we're gonna see Doomsday.

However, my god, there is SO MUCH CGI. I felt like I was supposed to get my PS4 controller and press X to punch Doomsday.

[MikeandRaph87]

I found this article on Yahoo! While I don't agree that Bay's Turtles looks like Doomsday it is amusing.

http://www.techinsider.io/batman-v-s...nation-2015-12

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Lol, while I agree with you, admittedly I thought of the turtles when I saw Doomsday. Makes me wish we could get a movie like this from the turtles.

As for my thoughts, I honestly was impressed. You can sense the tensions between Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne when they insult each other's city's hero. I loved Jessie Eisenberg's obvious foreshadowing of their upcoming battle. There were a lot of things I thought were enjoyable in this trailer. I think he will be an interesting version of Lex Luthor. Something about him kind of screams that he might be DC's Loki, without the attraction of fangirls, hopefully. Bruce going after Superman because he sees him as a threat still kind of feels puzzling for Batman, though.

The end of the trailer felt like one if a Marvel movie with the same type of jokes, but hey, I'm not complaining. Doomsday's appearance seemed a bit comical to me. The way he came down made it look like is was supposed to be some type of weird gag. But Wonder Woman is where I got really excited. Gal Gadot looks amazing! I LOVE the hell out of their lines of what they say of her. (Superman: She with you? Batman: I thought she was with you?).

[CyberCubed]

I think the concern is the trailer revealed way too much of the flow of the movie. Bruce and Clark meet, they go about their business at the start of the film, Lex prances around, eventually Batman and Superman meet and fight, Doomsday shows up, Wonder Woman shows up, the 3 battle Doomsday till they win....and then have some final confrontation with Lex.

They basically telegraphed the whole movie in the trailer. Its basically comic book movie superhero formula tried and true. Switch the characters around and its basically a Marvel movie in DC universe paint.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Bry

My game plan is to wait for reviews/word-of-mouth, and if most of that's positive and my interest is piqued, I'll rent it at some point. But there'll be no convincing my wife to sit through this after Man of Steel, that much I know.

Are we married to the same woman?

Honestly, it really looks like a rental. I get that the fan boys here are "hyped 9000 - ultramax" or whatever it is the kids say these days, but man. The "acting" takes me out of the movie...

But then Gal Gadot shows up and I'm paying full attention again.

Originally Posted by Bry

If nothing else though, I'm more excited about the Wonder Woman movie now. So there's that.

^ yep.

Doomsday totally looks like he could be Bay's version of Slash.

[Leo656]

Andrew: If I'm wrong about this, I owe you a cracker of your choice, but I'm almost 100% positive that there is NO Lex Luthor Armor in the movie. I said this earlier but it may have been buried. They did the same thing in "Superman Returns", they had a "Lex Luthor Kryptonite Armor" action figure, and it had nothing to do with the movie.

It's just an easier way to sell a $10 action figure than "Guy in business casual dress". It's just a toy. Lex isn't going to be THAT physically involved. I'm almost positive.

As far as I know... and I've called everything so far... not bragging, just stating... but anyway, as far as I know... ((Heavy Spoilers))

Spoiler:

Lex gets away at the end by pinning MOST of his crimes on Senator Cale. Authorities rule him to be "involved but not responsible", and LexCorp loses all of its government military contracts, striking a huge financial blow to LexCorp and giving Lex a bunch of all new reasons to hate Superman, but he is a free man at the end of the movie.

One of the last scenes in the film, is supposedly the famous "Lex and Superman taunt each other through the window of LexCorp Tower" scene from the comic books. Luthor tells Superman that he'll never stop trying to destroy him, and Superman tells him that he'll be waiting.

None of that would be possible at all if Lex were to don the armor at some point. Nothing I've heard or seen has him very directly physically involved, at least not on that scale. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I'm almost certainly not.

It's just a toy.

Spoiler:

I wouldn't be shocked if they did use the armor in a future movie, though. The next Superman movie is supposed to be the Brainiac one, and sometimes he and Lex team up, so maybe they'll get around to it then. They'll almost certainly interact, at least.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I think the concern is the trailer revealed way too much of the flow of the movie. Bruce and Clark meet, they go about their business at the start of the film, Lex prances around, eventually Batman and Superman meet and fight, Doomsday shows up, Wonder Woman shows up, the 3 battle Doomsday till they win....and then have some final confrontation with Lex.

They basically telegraphed the whole movie in the trailer. Its basically comic book movie superhero formula tried and true. Switch the characters around and its basically a Marvel movie in DC universe paint.

This pretty much sums it.

[Leo656]

Meanwhile, I'm over here laughing while people who don't know half as much as they think they do continue to persist in assuming they actually know everything. Add together the two trailers' worth of footage and you've seen... 5 minutes randomly cut and spliced together out of a 2-3 hour movie. Yeah, you know some of the beats. You still only know about 10% of everything actually happens in the movie. Fact.

Don't worry. I've been hoarding "I told you so's" for almost half a year. I'll have enough to last from March 25th until sometime around Memorial Day, at least.

It's a juicy trailer. But it doesn't spoil anything we didn't already know. And what you haven't seen yet is gonna flip your lid.

I've said this many times, about many things, but people, in general, would be alot more relaxed in life if they listened to me, because I am right allllll the time. It's a heavy responsibility and I try not to be a dick about it, but it's kinda just the way things are.
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For what it's worth, anyone who has any specific Spoiler-related things they're confused or uncertain about can feel free to ask me and I can PM you if you like. I wasn't completely sure if what I have was real but the new trailer confirmed about 99% of what I thought I knew. So I feel pretty confident in what I thought I knew that I now know I know. Y'know?

But yeah, feel free. For some reason I feel like it'd be better to do it in Private if I'm going to get any more specific than I've already been. It's a few months away yet.

EDIT: I realized I have to clean out my PM box, so maybe if anyone wants to be Spoiled, they can ask me here and I'll respond via PM. Just until I straighten that mess out.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Doomsday totally looks like he could be Bay's version of Slash.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Andrew: If I'm wrong about this, I owe you a cracker of your choice, but I'm almost 100% positive that there is NO Lex Luthor Armor in the movie. I said this earlier but it may have been buried. They did the same thing in "Superman Returns", they had a "Lex Luthor Kryptonite Armor" action figure, and it had nothing to do with the movie.

You might be right... but I think I'd take that bet. That by the end of the movie, we see a bald Lex Luthor piloting his super armor against the heroes.

OR

Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and whoever else they include in the final act of the movie have being toe to toe with Doomsday for a while... and he's beating them all. Badly. Maybe he's even about to kill Superman, so us comic book fans can be like, "Ooooh.... is he gonna kill him??!!" and then Lex Luthor shows up in his armor with either some miracle save to incapacitate Doomsday allowing the heroes to take him out, or just eliminates him outright. Now he gets to save face in public relations, the heroes can go back to what they were doing, and there's uneasy tensions with Lex who is now more of a hero in the public eye than ever before. And they'll probably do President Lex at some point. Because this definitely isn't ending with Lex in prison... they need him for Suicide Squad and such in the long term. He won't be like the Hackman Luthor squatting in sewers and ****.