Saint West

[Papenbrook]

I would like to congratulate Kanye West and Kim Kardashian for the birth of their new baby boy!

Welcome to the world, Saint West!

http://m.eonline.com/news/722034/kim...wborn-baby-boy

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Poor kid...

[MsMarvelDuckie]

What is UP with these names?!! Do people even THINK of how that will affect the kid later in life? Seriously, unless you WANT to condemn your child to a lifetime of jokes, pranks, and name-calling, not to mention unrealistic expectations and/or confusion, stick to normal names that won't be a burden to the kid as a teen or adult. It's utterly ridiculous what some people consider acceptable as names these days.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Every time I feel like a lousy parent, I shall remember the likes of Kanye and Kim. Then I shall be assured: Fear not, me... for I am an awesome parent.

[Papenbrook]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

What is UP with these names?!! Do people even THINK of how that will affect the kid later in life? Seriously, unless you WANT to condemn your child to a lifetime of jokes, pranks, and name-calling, not to mention unrealistic expectations and/or confusion, stick to normal names that won't be a burden to the kid as a teen or adult. It's utterly ridiculous what some people consider acceptable as names these days.

There is nothing wrong with his name.

[Autbot_Benz]

**** the kardashian's I wish they would make it on the endangered species list. **** Kanye too.

[Papenbrook]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

**** the kardashian's I wish they would make it on the endangered species list. **** Kanye too.

That's awful. What did they ever do to you?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

There is nothing wrong with his name.

Except that it's presumptuous, pretentious, and invites all sorts of ridicule from the child's peers, and scorn from adults who "know better" than his parents. Clearly they have put NO thought into how it will affect the child's life. It's the worst form of arrogance a parent can demonstrate.

[plastroncafe]

I dunno...look at the names we've all elected to go by around here, are we really in any position to judge? Be honest.

[GoldMutant]

Can we celebrate any further celebrities when marriage occurs? (and by the way, I'm being sarcastic)

In all seriousness, the name is so sickening to me; outside any religious bashing the poor kid will get, it demonstrates the ego and arrogance of these two. Considering the serious ego trips West possesses and Kim's popularity completely unwarranted, why the hell do they need further exposure? I'm all for celebrities getting a family raised, but I can't for the life of me trust these two as parents.

The name I find completely stupid, pretentious from two of Hollywood's biggest hacks in the industry. Meh, congrats to them but I'm going to feel sympathy for the kid's immediate future.

[Papenbrook]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I dunno...look at the names we've all elected to go by around here, are we really in any position to judge? Be honest.

Exactly.

We live in a different generation. Most of the internet and media in general is going to present more acceptability towards names. Hell, society is already accepting these sorts of names. We should try to join them in doing so.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I dunno...look at the names we've all elected to go by around here, are we really in any position to judge? Be honest.

Except that there's a difference between an internet persona one chooses for ONESELF, and a name given at birth by clueless parents. When the kid is old enough to go on the internet and choose their persona name, that's one thing. But picking out a "name" that just BEGS for ridicule?! That's inexcusable.

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

Can we celebrate any further celebrities when marriage occurs? (and by the way, I'm being sarcastic)

In all seriousness, the name is so sickening to me; outside any religious bashing the poor kid will get, it demonstrates the ego and arrogance of these two. Considering the serious ego trips West possesses and Kim's popularity completely unwarranted, why the hell do they need further exposure? I'm all for celebrities getting a family raised, but I can't for the life of me trust these two as parents.

The name I find completely stupid, pretentious from two of Hollywood's biggest hacks in the industry. Meh, congrats to them but I'm going to feel sympathy for the kid's immediate future.

Exactly.

[Papenbrook]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Except that there's a difference between an internet persona one chooses for ONESELF, and a name given at birth by clueless parents. When the kid is old enough to go on the internet and choose their persona name, that's one thing. But picking out a "name" that just BEGS for ridicule?! That's inexcusable.

The people at fault should be the mockers, not the child nor the parents.

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

The people at fault should be the mockers, not the child or the parents.

What?

Look, I'm not going to shoot anyone in the throat, but that is such a bigoted statement. If it's for teasing as a joke in the future it's understandable, but considering society is relying less on previous beliefs, Kanye and Kim are essentially setting the kid to get hurt by reporting on what the name is.

Considering I don't trust the guts of West in the slightest nor bear sympathy for Kim, I find this name ridiculous. You can easily bring up the bullies just fine, but in the case of a name it's most certainly the fault of not only the bullies, but the parents too. The parents for giving their kid an ego boost with that name and so called "haters" who are going to be uncomfortable with that name. We're not talking anything of the past of the society you express animosity towards, but given the day and age of my own generation being absent minded this is a frightening thought to me based on anything you've previously stated.

Both the parents and mockers are at fault, not the kid who will grow up, end of story.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

That's awful. What did they ever do to you?

They Exist. The Kardashian's are spoiled Brats who are always in the media. Kim only got famous because of a sex tape that she was in other than that they are just the usual reality tv star bitches that think they are hot **** when they are actually ****.

You can't go a day without some Kardishan headline on any site.

Kanye is just full of himself a smug prick.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

The people at fault should be the mockers, not the child nor the parents.

And you really have no idea how life works, do you? Yeah, people can be cruel-especially kids- and it sucks. But what is even worse is when parents are so insensitive that they give their child a "name" (I use the term loosely here, as Saint is more properly a TITLE- and a religious one, at that) that will almost inevitably lead to name-calling and being ostracized for what others perceive as a "flaw". And the child will have to go through his ENTIRE life (or at least until old enough to legally change it) with this name!

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

What?

Look, I'm not going to shoot anyone in the throat, but that is such a bigoted statement. If it's for teasing as a joke in the future it's understandable, but considering society is relying less on previous beliefs, Kanye and Kim are essentially setting the kid to get hurt by reporting on what the name is.

Considering I don't trust the guts of West in the slightest nor bear sympathy for Kim, I find this name ridiculous. You can easily bring up the bullies just fine, but in the case of a name it's most certainly the fault of not only the bullies, but the parents too. The parents for giving their kid an ego boost with that name and so called "haters" who are going to be uncomfortable with that name. We're not talking anything of the past of the society you express animosity towards, but given the day and age of my own generation being absent minded this is a frightening thought to me based on anything you've previously stated.

Both the parents and mockers are at fault, not the kid who will grow up, end of story.

Indeed. Parents most certainly are culpable for any physical and/or mental damage done to their child later by their own arrogant and insensitive choices. Some things might sound "cute" or "unique" initially, but one has to remember that there is a HUMAN BEING who will be STUCK with that name for LIFE! This isn't a dog or cat, it is a person who will be fully cognizant of what others think of them based on their name.

[Papenbrook]

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

What?

Look, I'm not going to shoot anyone in the throat, but that is such a bigoted statement. If it's for teasing as a joke in the future it's understandable, but considering society is relying less on previous beliefs, Kanye and Kim are essentially setting the kid to get hurt by reporting on what the name is.

Considering I don't trust the guts of West in the slightest nor bear sympathy for Kim, I find this name ridiculous. You can easily bring up the bullies just fine, but in the case of a name it's most certainly the fault of not only the bullies, but the parents too. The parents for giving their kid an ego boost with that name and so called "haters" who are going to be uncomfortable with that name. We're not talking anything of the past of the society you express animosity towards, but given the day and age of my own generation being absent minded this is a frightening thought to me based on anything you've previously stated.

Both the parents and mockers are at fault, not the kid who will grow up, end of story.

I'm not trying to be absent minded. I'm trying to be open minded.

You could say it is BOTH the parents and mockers at fault. However, I think Kanye and Kim really want the best for their children. They tried to keep their daughter, North West, out of the spotlight. Who's to say they won't make the same decision for Saint?

However, I respect your opinion. I am not going to judge you.

[plastroncafe]

But won't someone think of the children. Or the football team with the same name. Or the several islands which also have that as a name.

I would love to know what a Normal name is. Bet it's anglicized.

No one is stuck with a name for life. I promise you plastroncafe is not on my birth certificate.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Unless one wants to go through the hassle and expense of having it legally changed, yes, 99% of people DO have the same name for life. And again, we are talking about the LEGAL BIRTH NAME of a person, not an internet "persona" name they have picked themselves. (And which no one outside their internet circle will know anyway.) Also, it doesn't have to be Anglicized, but for f**k's sake, it should at LEAST be a commonly recognized name that isn't just some "cute-sounding" word picked out of a dictionary. It's almost as bad as names like Moon-unit or Blanket. Neither is really a suitable name for a person. A DOG maybe, but a kid??!!

As an example, we named our daughter Rhiannon, but it's a name that reflects our Irish/Celtic ancestry, and while it's the name of a Celtic goddess, not many people know that. Most would just assume she was named for the Fleetwood Mac song. (She wasn't.) But at least it's recognizable as an actual name. We put a lot of thought into the name we gave her, knowing that it was probably the biggest contribution we would make to her upbringing. (She was adopted by friends of ours at birth.)

[plastroncafe]

My parents have me a "real" name with personal meaning, and I don't like it. Never have.

Takes all kinds.