Official TMNT 2 Trailer Discussion

[massakre]

This just looks fun as hell.. As soon as Run DMC came on, that set the tone.. And Im perfectly cool with this. Thumbs up for me.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

But Secret of the Ooze did, right?

We don't talk about that here.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

But Secret of the Ooze did, right?

Change the tone, you mean? Yeah, sure, but it wasn't as much of a departure from the first as this would be, were it to have taken place in that universe at that time. Not saying anything bad, it's just a truth. Adding tanks, 8 foot tall beasts on motorcycles, inter-dimensional portals bursting with rock-man piloted ships, a garbage truck loaded with military technology, etc. isn't a terribly far leap from this film series' first iteration, but it most certainly would've been for the Henson flicks. I can't see those turtles going up against this kinda stuff, it's too much. Those flicks were a bit more grounded & in tune with the Mirage comics, free of Playmates influence.

[newhire13]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Was Eric Sachs in this trailer at all? I didn't catch him but he might have been in the background of some scenes.

Didn't the actor sign on for 3 movies?

Pretty sure they aren't using him, replacing him with Baxter Stockman instead.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by THGhost

Not really, there really isn't all that much to Casey's character (especially the 80s cartoon; sorry Casey fans), and there certainly won't be in this movie.

Gotta respectfully disagree. Casey's a pretty specific kind of character with a solid purpose in the narrative if they choose to use it. The 1990 movie did a pretty damn good job of this. Honestly, this seems like more of the producers not caring about characters or story, just the image. As long as he wears a hockey mask and hits people with a hockey stick, the character's motivations, personality, and backstory don't matter to them.

And yeah, the Fred Wolf version is extremely one-note, but that's also why that version of the property isn't the best one to base major movies on.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by Desslok

From that brief moment we saw him, I already kind of like this new Stockman.

Like he can be compared to the last one. He was in about 2 shots and didn't have any lines of dialogue, none that I remember at least. Blink and you'd miss him.

Originally Posted by Bry

Gotta respectfully disagree. Casey's a pretty specific kind of character with a solid purpose in the narrative if they choose to use it. The 1990 movie did a pretty damn good job of this. Honestly, this seems like more of the producers not caring about characters or story, just the image. As long as he wears a hockey mask and hits people with a hockey stick, the character's motivations, personality, and backstory don't matter to them.

And yeah, the Fred Wolf version is extremely one-note, but that's also why that version of the property isn't the best one to base major movies on.

In all seriousness, isn't every version of Casey one-note despite the odd exception? The same can be said for pretty much every TMNT character really.

[TigerClaw]

From the Trailer.

What are you, superheroes?

Raph: Just four brothers who hate bullies, and love this city.

[Chaotix12345]

Was smiling the whole way through watching that. (ESPECIALLY at the full mutated B&R reveal.) I love that this trailer seemed to focus a bit more on "fun" and a bit less on the "try-hard epicness" from the first movie's initial trailer. Really looking forward to this.

[CyberCubed]

Was the new Karai in this trailer? Wasn't she recasted as well?

[MrTMNT2012]

Originally Posted by Powder

Change the tone, you mean? Yeah, sure, but it wasn't as much of a departure from the first as this would be, were it to have taken place in that universe at that time. Not saying anything bad, it's just a truth. Adding tanks, 8 foot tall beasts on motorcycles, inter-dimensional portals bursting with rock-man piloted ships, a garbage truck loaded with military technology, etc. isn't a terribly far leap from this film series' first iteration, but it most certainly would've been for the Henson flicks. I can't see those turtles going up against this kinda stuff, it's too much. Those flicks were a bit more grounded & in tune with the Mirage comics, free of Playmates influence.

At a time when your only sources of reference are an R-rated comic book series about death, vengeance and moral ambiguity, and a kid-friendly cartoon where it's literally what you described, I don't think it would've been THAT much of a deviation...

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Was the new Karai in this trailer? Wasn't she recasted as well?

I don't think so, I only saw Shredder in it, when he was with pre-mutated Bebop and Rocksteady.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Was the new Karai in this trailer? Wasn't she recasted as well?

Didn't see her, but yes she has. Brittany Ishibashi plays her now.

Originally Posted by Chaotix12345

Was smiling the whole way through watching that. (ESPECIALLY at the full mutated B&R reveal.) I love that this trailer seemed to focus a bit more on "fun" and a bit less on the "try-hard epicness" from the first movie's initial trailer. Really looking forward to this.

They should have done that in the first place. Hopefully they've learned from their mistakes. :p

[MrTMNT2012]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

From the Trailer.

What are you, superheroes?

Raph: Just four brothers who hate bullies, and love this city.

That was f#cking stupid, but obviously not expecting an Oscar-winning screenplay with intricately written characterisation, so it works.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

At a time when your only sources of reference are an R-rated comic book series about death, vengeance and moral ambiguity, and a kid-friendly cartoon where it's literally what you described, I don't think it would've been THAT much of a deviation...

R-rated? Seriously?? Have you READ the Mirage comics? They may have more violence than most of the TMNT stuff that came after it, but it's not R-rated.

[NYShell]

They got rid of Leo's bamboo chest plate but decided to give him pants, along with the rest of them. And what is Raph wearing?

[Matt2310]

i feel very good about this one, we got a trailer 6 months before release compared to the first when we got what? a month maybe a month and some change?

once the CGI is all finished it should be pretty bad ass

giving us a trailer this early shows that they are proud of what they have so far which is a good thing

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

R-rated? Seriously?? Have you READ the Mirage comics? They may have more violence than most of the TMNT stuff that came after it, but it's not R-rated.

If they adapted the Mirage comics without changing a thing (which I would totally watch btw), it would probably be R-rated. That'll never happen though.

Originally Posted by Matt2310

i feel very good about this one, we got a trailer 6 months before release compared to the first when we got what? a month maybe a month and some change?

once the CGI is all finished it should be pretty bad ass

giving us a trailer this early shows that they are proud of what they have so far which is a good thing

And hopefully the UK and other countries won't have to wait several months to see it after the US like last time!

[TigerClaw]

I really hope the movie is at least 2 hours in length, It will take a lot to explain the portal from dimension X, Bebop and Rocksteady mutating, Baxtor Stockman and Shredder, and all that stuff in between.

[NYShell]

Rocksteady doesn't look scaley. He looks very fleshy.

[Desslok]

Originally Posted by THGhost

Like he can be compared to the last one. He was in about 2 shots and didn't have any lines of dialogue, none that I remember at least. Blink and you'd miss him.

Well when I say "new" I mean in relation to all previous versions of the character. How could you compare him to something that nearly doesn't exist?

I'm glad Stockman is finally showing up in a movie. It's something that could have been done a long time ago, WAY overdue in my opinion. Here's hoping Tyler Perry can make it memorable (in a good way).