Official TMNT 2 Trailer Discussion - Page 19

Matt2310 · 12-09-2015, 10:01 PM

is that not karai at 1:28?

*MrTMNT2012* · 12-09-2015, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

R-rated? Seriously?? Have you READ the Mirage comics? They may have more violence than most of the TMNT stuff that came after it, but it's not R-rated.

*clearly was a hyperbole...

*THGhost* · 12-09-2015, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I really hope the movie is at least 2 hours in length, It will take a lot to explain the portal from dimension X, Bebop and Rocksteady mutating, Baxtor Stockman and Shredder, and all that stuff in between.

I wouldn't be surprised if they crammed it all in in under 2 hours, but it would be nice to have some breathing room.

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Originally Posted by NYShell

Rocksteady doesn't look scaley. He looks very fleshy.

Aren't Rhino's fleshy though? I honestly have no idea.

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Originally Posted by Desslok

Well when I say "new" I mean in relation to all previous versions of the character. How could you compare him to something that nearly doesn't exist?

I take your point.

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Originally Posted by Matt2310

is that not karai at 1:28?

That's April.

*TurtleTitan97* · 12-09-2015, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

*clearly was a hyperbole...

*clearly could have phrased it better....

*Powder* · 12-09-2015, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

At a time when your only sources of reference are an R-rated comic book series about death, vengeance and moral ambiguity, and a kid-friendly cartoon where it's literally what you described, I don't think it would've been THAT much of a deviation...

It would, & my post explains why. You can't just have a radical shift in tone like that. The first flick is dark, brooding, atmospheric, & grounded. They have hand to hand combat with gangsters & ninjas, in the streets. That's it. Zooming into a toy commercial for the next movie would've be like going from vegetables to a bacon sundae. The change has to be gradual. Mirage's comics went from grit to goof with ease because they gave you more & more wacky stuff along the way, until you reached a point where anything could happen. Only then can you say "Okay, this is normal for them.". Donnie was just barely able to fix a beater pick-up truck in the original movie, & Casey did most of the work on that. You think he could just scratch build a f*cking warship out of a garbage truck that very same week (in the sequel), not to mention entire home monitoring systems, hydraulic jet powered skateboards, etc? C'mon. & that's without getting into a bunch of ragtag teenagers & their delusional immigrant step-father suddenly having access to military grade weapons, tanks, etc.

It works in the Bayverse because they set that tone in the first movie. It's the norm.

Matt2310 · 12-09-2015, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by THGhost

I wouldn't be surprised if they crammed it all in in under 2 hours, but it would be nice to have some breathing room.

Aren't Rhino's fleshy though? I honestly have no idea.

I take your point.

That's April.

at 1:28 standing next to shredder that is definitely not april

METALHEAD · 12-09-2015, 10:04 PM

i still wonder how theyre gonna explain a younger shredder and karai.
i'm gonna guess clones or something.

*Bry* · 12-09-2015, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by THGhost

In all seriousness, isn't every version of Casey one-note despite the odd exception? The same can be said for pretty much every TMNT character really.

At first, yes, to some degree. He's a borderline-psychotic vigilante who serves as a comparison/contrast to Raphael. And then he evolves. The version we have here doesn't even resemble him, though, so he's not going to turn out to be the same character.

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

That was f#cking stupid, but obviously not expecting an Oscar-winning screenplay with intricately written characterisation, so it works.

Man, this is how out-of-step I am here, I guess. I can't fall over backwards to get excited for something that everyone seems to admit will have a bad script/story and weak characters. I know that's how low the expectations are, but that doesn't mean everyone has to lower their standards to meet them.

Maybe someone will deliver an actually-good TMNT movie in 10 years or so. I'll be there if they do. As for this, though -- once bitten, twice shy.

*MrTMNT2012* · 12-09-2015, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

*clearly could have phrased it better....

Like...how?!

Someone earlier already mentioned if it was adapted properly into a film, it would be R-rated anyway.

*THGhost* · 12-09-2015, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

Like...how?!

Someone earlier already mentioned if it was adapted properly into a film, it would be R-rated anyway.

To be fair, I did say "probably".

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Originally Posted by Matt2310

at 1:28 standing next to shredder that is definitely not april

There's nobody standing next to Shredder at 1:28. That's a shot of Baxter.

Just checked 1:27 and Karai is indeed standing next to Shredder. Good eye. Need to work on your timecodes though.

Matt2310 · 12-09-2015, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by THGhost

There's nobody standing next to Shredder at 1:28. That's a shot of Baxter.

Just checked 1:27 and Karai is indeed standing next to Shredder. Good eye. Need to work on your timecodes though.

sorry i had it paused at 1:28 with that same shot

*THGhost* · 12-09-2015, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt2310

sorry i had it paused at 1:28 with that same shot

1:28 has her in the shot with the lightning flash obscuring her face. 1:27 has her in shot without it, making her more visibile.

NYShell · 12-09-2015, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by THGhost

Aren't Rhino's fleshy though? I honestly have no idea.

Idk for sure. But from what I've always seen their hide seems more scaley and tough. It kind of looks like they took Sheamus' skin complexion and wrapped it around a rhino model.

*TigerClaw* · 12-09-2015, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by THGhost

I wouldn't be surprised if they crammed it all in in under 2 hours, but it would be nice to have some breathing room.

I do know that the opening of the movie is that highway chase between the Turtle Van and that truck with the foot soldiers, I bet the portal from dimension X is either during the 2nd or the beginning of the 3rd act.

newhire13 · 12-09-2015, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by METALHEAD

i still wonder how theyre gonna explain a younger shredder and karai.
i'm gonna guess clones or something.

I'm betting on him being that Shredder's son and going by the name Oroku Saki.

*MrTMNT2012* · 12-09-2015, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bry

Man, this is how out-of-step I am here, I guess. I can't fall over backwards to get excited for something that everyone seems to admit will have a bad script/story and weak characters. I know that's how low the expectations are, but that doesn't mean everyone has to lower their standards to meet them.

Nope. Never said it had a bad script or weak characters. Incredibly presumptuous for anyone to make that claim seeing how this is just a 2-minute teaser trailer.

Yep. Expectations are so low that I'm just not expecting an Oscar-winning motion picture about 4 anthropomorphic mutated teenage turtles that were trained ninjutsu by a rat. You are right about that...

What I am expecting is the most fun movie experience I'll have in 2016 considering I love these characters from the first film because of how well-written and distinct they were and they seem to be amping it up even further.

METALHEAD · 12-09-2015, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by newhire13

I'm betting on him being that Shredder's son and going by the name Oroku Saki.

that would explain it, maybe that young karai would be the younger sister.

*TigerClaw* · 12-09-2015, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by newhire13

I'm betting on him being that Shredder's son and going by the name Oroku Saki.

It makes sense, since the Shredder from the 1st one would be Oroku Nagi

*THGhost* · 12-09-2015, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I do know that the opening of the movie is that highway chase between the Turtle Van and that truck with the foot soldiers, I bet the portal from dimension X is either during the 2nd or the beginning of the 3rd act.

I like the sound of that. Good way to open the movie.

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Originally Posted by newhire13

I'm betting on him being that Shredder's son and going by the name Oroku Saki.

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

It makes sense, since the Shredder from the 1st one would be Oroku Nagi

Yep, that makes perfect sense. Which probably means that's not what Platinum Dunes will go with, but we'll see.

Matt2310 · 12-09-2015, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

It makes sense, since the Shredder from the 1st one would be Oroku Nagi

would technically make new shredder and sacks brothers haha

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