TMNT Season 3 Best Episode Tournament Round 2: Serpent Hunt vs. Turtles in Time

[JTH]

ROUND 2

The streak continues on as the higher seed advances, standing at 13-0. But now this may be the toughest match to date. This is the 7 vs. 10 match, ebing about as even as it can be.

Round 2 Polls will last 5 days and will be private polls, but of course you can still discuss who you voted for and your reasoning why.

Note: All Round 2 Matches will begin on Tuesdays. Going to keep it uniform, so always be tuned in this time each Tuesday.

To check out the complete up to date bracket, the link is here:
http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cf...Best%20Episode

Now with that said and done, it's time to take a look at the "Tale of the Turtle Tape"!

Official Seed: #7
Where JTH seeded this episode: #14
Total Points Received: 58
Official IGN Review: 8.7/10
Current TV.com Rating: 9.5/10
Highest Rating Episode Received: #5 (GoldMutant)
How did it get here?: Recieved Bye

Official Seed: #10
Where JTH seeded this episode: #16
Total Points Received: 41
Official IGN Review: 8.7/10
Current TV.com Rating: 9.3/10
Highest Rating Episode Received: #3 (TurtleTron)
How did it get here?: Defeated The Noxious Avenger in Round 1

Winner faces #2 Tale of the Yokai in Round 3


JTH's Prediction:

Spoiler:

I'm kinda torn on which episode will win. I could make a case for both. Ultimately I think Serpent will keep the streak of higher seeds going, but by the slimmest of margins.

#7 Serpent Hunt - 13
#10 Turtles in Time - 11
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Which episode wins in your mind, vote away. Remember...HAVE FUN!!!

[GoldMutant]

I honestly for the life of me can't enjoy Turtles in Time, it feels a little disappointing personally. Even with some decent creativity and spectacular animation and fights, it really isn't anything special. The time time travel two parter teeters away from the main story; that and the Mikey and Renet relationship I can't stand at all. It's poorly handled and makes Mikey even more unbearable than ever before.

It does it's job of entering Renet and Savanti, but with such lackluster execution it feels like they're both.... just there nearly. Savanti was a complete waste here and even though we'll see them again in the future, I can't say the episode was great at all. Certainly a middle of the road episode this season due to it's introduction and doesn't have anything long term going for it thus far.

As for Serpent Hunt, I actually would have ranked this episode at least at number 3 on my original list because I really do think Bebop and Rocksteady's two episodes were fantastic and among the season's best, moreso this one for me.

Though the Karai plot is practically not going anywhere, the reason I liked this episode is because of Steranko and Zeck's mutation. It's the best scene of the entire series for me; besides retaining the core element of comedy, it's actually pretty darn tragic. With the music and atmosphere built up from here, I find it completely sad for these guys, the only villains outside Slash that made me feel emotionally attached.

Outside these two with some well done execution through fights such as the docks and rooftop battle, the episode is still flawed. There's no clear cut reason why these two survived the Kraang's invasion (unless Shredder was fine) and there was some stupidity from the characters especially from the villains here, the episode does it's job well of continuing a prolonged story needing addresing by this point.

Serpent Hunt ultimately is what a TMNT episode I feel should be: a sense of drama in an adventure blended with comedic moments, action to keep people watching, and some tragedy for everyone involved. That's where my vote goes to; if Turtles in Time were better constructed with plot and the love issue, I'd say it's underrated. Otherwise, I cast my vote to Serpent Hunt.

[Ninturtle]

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

I honestly for the life of me can't enjoy Turtles in Time, it feels a little disappointing personally. Even with some decent creativity and spectacular animation and fights, it really isn't anything special. The time time travel two parter teeters away from the main story; that and the Mikey and Renet relationship I can't stand at all. It's poorly handled and makes Mikey even more unbearable than ever before.

It does it's job of entering Renet and Savanti, but with such lackluster execution it feels like they're both.... just there nearly. Savanti was a complete waste here and even though we'll see them again in the future, I can't say the episode was great at all. Certainly a middle of the road episode this season due to it's introduction and doesn't have anything long term going for it thus far.

As for Serpent Hunt, I actually would have ranked this episode at least at number 3 on my original list because I really do think Bebop and Rocksteady's two episodes were fantastic and among the season's best, moreso this one for me.

Though the Karai plot is practically not going anywhere, the reason I liked this episode is because of Steranko and Zeck's mutation. It's the best scene of the entire series for me; besides retaining the core element of comedy, it's actually pretty darn tragic. With the music and atmosphere built up from here, I find it completely sad for these guys, the only villains outside Slash that made me feel emotionally attached.

Outside these two with some well done execution through fights such as the docks and rooftop battle, the episode is still flawed. There's no clear cut reason why these two survived the Kraang's invasion (unless Shredder was fine) and there was some stupidity from the characters especially from the villains here, the episode does it's job well of continuing a prolonged story needing addresing by this point.

Serpent Hunt ultimately is what a TMNT episode I feel should be: a sense of drama in an adventure blended with comedic moments, action to keep people watching, and some tragedy for everyone involved. That's where my vote goes to; if Turtles in Time were better constructed with plot and the love issue, I'd say it's underrated. Otherwise, I cast my vote to Serpent Hunt.

I liked Serpent Hunt but I felt it was a step down from Return to New York, the ending didn't impress me as much because it was shown at NYCC but it was still good enough to make me rewatch the scene because of its added effects. But yeah Turtles in Time isn't even close to serpent hunt.

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by Ninturtle

I liked Serpent Hunt but I felt it was a step down from Return to New York, the ending didn't impress me as much because it was shown at NYCC but it was still good enough to make me rewatch the scene because of its added effects. But yeah Turtles in Time isn't even close to serpent hunt.

Guess it's subjective and I'm playing up the scene as this deep moment; it's really not.

I feel the one at NYCC was more cruel without the sounds, this one I feel has more emphasis on emotion. If it weren't for Karai going nowhere minimally, I'd wager this being the best episode of the season at least to me; Annihilation to me is slowly not remaining my favorite this season anymore. Either way, no harm done, still a fantastic episode.

[Tarris Vaal]

I have to admit I liked Renet a lot more than I was expecting to - but I was a bit disappointed with Savantei. Compared to Shredder or the Kraang he seemed very 'by the numbers' as villains go. I would have liked a little more depth or something a little more interesting from him.

Serpent hunt I preferred a lot more - the fairground fight was really well done I thought and this was a good introduction for Bebop and Rocksteady.

[OrangeNinja1987]

I liked both, but Serpent Hunt far more. It was funny, action-packed, emotional, and had great animation and the big intro of Bebop and Rocksteady.