Batman V. Superman: Dawn Of Justice

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Alright.

Leo, your blowhard BS is tired. I'm over it big guy. You want to be a child, have at it, but you a'int chasing me of the playground kid.

You are not the sole authority on anything, so just stop. You wanna spout off over and over again about how right you are, good for you! This movie has just as much wrong with it as PDMT, and I have every right to say my piece.

You're not King **** bud. You're just a guy, same as me with opinions. We all got 'em, and if you want to get nasty over it, fine.

And speaking of what's "cute" Cylon, take a break from sucking up to Leo, I'm sure even he's sick of it.

Now, if you'd like to throw a second temper tantrum, feel free, but I'm not going to acquiesce to your demands this time. You dance all over the kids in the movie section, you can take a few jabs in a LIGHT HEARTED, TOTALLY REDICULOUS DISCUSSION, about a blockbuster movie.

It's fine, we're all fine. Don't be a Sam.

Would you prefer I sucked up to you instead, C42? I only agree with him when his opinions align with mine. Pretty sure you don't accuse me of sucking up to anyone when we're all taking well-deserved potshots at the kids over in PD TMNT.

So what's a Sam?

[NinjaPug]

Haha. Someone calling themselves the "DC Authority around here" while putting down people that like the Marvel movies and also saying Zack Snyder made a movie that is too smart for the general public is too good for one post.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

So did I, but that had been in the oven for years so it was honed to perfection.

Perfection would have been if Wright had been at the helm the whole way through. Sure you could see his fingerprints EVERYWHERE, but it's still not the same.

At the end of the day none of these movies, neither Marvel nor DC, are reinventing the wheel. They're adaptations. A movie can be a decent movie, but a crap adaptation. (Constantine) Or they can be so faithful to the source material that they have no soul. (Watchmen)

There are some superhero flicks that don't work for me. That they don't work for me shouldn't be an indictment on my class, education, or intelligence.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Would you prefer I sucked up to you instead, C42? I only agree with him when his opinions align with mine. Pretty sure you don't accuse me of sucking up to anyone when we're all taking well-deserved potshots at the kids over in PD TMNT.

So what's a Sam?

Dude, you're relentless, every time I argue with Leo, you follow in behind with a second shot.
Drives me nuts.

Point is, I respect Leo, 90% of the time, but lately, this attitude, it's crap.
I'm all for rational arguments and disagreements etc, but yeah, I am mad as hell that DC has been hijacked and taken in this direction. I do not agree that they're aiming higher, at all.
And just because you've come around to liking what they're doing, doesn't mean everyone else is wrong. it means, they've convinced you to change your mind.

Hell man, Superman was a hero for me too. It was a big part of my life too.
See, I'm the kind of guy who likes Under Pressure over Ice Ice baby. that's the kind of guy I am. i like the original works, not their derivative.

Make of that what you will.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

At the end of the day none of these movies, neither Marvel nor DC, are reinventing the wheel. They're adaptations. A movie can be a decent movie, but a crap adaptation. (Constantine) Or they can be so faithful to the source material that they have no soul. (Watchmen)

There are some superhero flicks that don't work for me. That they don't work for me shouldn't be an indictment on my class, education, or intelligence.

I like you a whole lot more today. Far more eloquent than I've been, but very much the point.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Dude, you're relentless, every time I argue with Leo, you follow in behind with a second shot.

Drives me nuts.

Point is, I respect Leo, 90% of the time, but lately, this attitude, it's crap.
I'm all for rational arguments and disagreements etc, but yeah, I am mad as hell that DC has been hijacked and taken in this direction. I do not agree that they're aiming higher, at all.

And just because you've come around to liking what they're doing, doesn't mean everyone else is wrong. it means, they've convinced you to change your mind.

Hell man, Superman was a hero for me too. It was a big part of my life too.

See, i'm the kind of guy who likes Under Pressure over Ice Ice baby. that's the kind of guy I am. i like the original works, not their derivative.

Make of that what you will.

You still haven't explained what a Sam is... we talking Yosemite, Serious, or Spade?

[snake]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

You still haven't explained what a Sam is... we talking Yosemite, Serious, or Spade?

Samxsteal, the guy in the PDtmnt section that defends those movies constantly

[plastroncafe]

Oh...that's way less fun than the Urban Dictionary meaning...

[Cure]

I wanna see Superman punch people in the face.

[snake]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Oh...that's way less fun than the Urban Dictionary meaning...

Cybercubed is pretty sam

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by snake

Cybercubed is pretty sam

Well done.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Oh...that's way less fun than the Urban Dictionary meaning...

Considering the argument, yeah that could work too.

[CyberCubed]

What's going on in this thread. So much chaos and I missed it all.

The things you miss when you're sleeping.

[Slade]

Originally Posted by Cure

I wanna see Superman punch people in the face.

So do I. And that's another reason I love Man of Steel.


I'm just gonna go ahead and say this. I agree with Leo about this movie. It looks fantastic. It's going to be fantastic or I have a feeling it will be.

[snake]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

What's going on in this thread. So much chaos and I missed it all.

The things you miss when you're sleeping.

Did you just wake up now?

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I'm sure some of you are Oscar-winning screenwriters also, like the guy who wrote this movie. ....e.t.c...e.t.c...e.t.c...
F***ing people. Go jerk off to lame sh*t like Ant-Man if that's your speed, and enjoy your mountain of never-ending cotton candy Disney/Marvel fluff, because it's exactly what you deserve: Pablum aimed at children and morons. Some of us aren't put off by something that aims higher.

So much salt in one post.
If I ever want to have fun time by trolling somebody, I already know my target.

But seriously, screaming that everything that does not conform for your tastes are for children and morons is pretty much a telltale sigh, that you are child yourself with a bloated EGO.

On note:
I don't want this movie to fail, but so far nothing make me like anything about it. Especially Snyder being its director. This guy is like Bay - too much in love with his own style to make anything else. The only difference is that everyone know that Bay is style-over-substance guy, while Snyder still receives credit for being something more...which considering his filmography is rather odd.

I actually might rate Bay a bit higher: at least his movies sometimes fun, when they are not called "Transformers #". And he made Rock, which is the closest thing to decent adaption of Metal Gear Solid games into the movie(...made two years before first MGS).

Also, I like Marvel movies, but they are just that: fun movies, without much substance. I am not opposed to the idea of having serious adaptions of comic books, but only, if it's really a decent work and not some pretentious wannabe "epic".

Though, generally I believe, that comic book movies should just embrace ridiculousness of source material and roll with it. Nobody said, that you can't have decent and interesting story and characters in entertaining fun movie. However, it's rather hard to pull off, hence all this misguided attempts at turning them into grimdarkdiscolored mess.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by snake

Did you just wake up now?

Spoiler:

I woke up at 1pm.

[snake]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Spoiler:

I woke up at 1pm.

Congratulations

[CyberCubed]

I'm wondering because all I see is people saying that they're sucking each others dicks and others are throwing temper tantrums so I'm wondering what the hell is going on here.

[Slade]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I'm wondering because all I see is people saying that they're sucking each others dicks and others are throwing temper tantrums so I'm wondering what the hell is going on here.

you can read can't you?

[CyberCubed]

I gloss. Its not easy reading when it goes back a couple of pages of bickering.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Also, I like Marvel movies, but they are just that: fun movies, without much substance. I am not opposed to the idea of having serious adaptions of comic books, but only, if it's really a decent work and not some pretentious wannabe "epic".

Well, I think that depends on how you define "substance." The Marvel movies in general are more light-hearted, fantastical and fun. They may not have as much "real world" substance, but they have plenty of emotional substance. That's why I care a lot more about what happens in the typical Marvel movie than I did during Man of Steel, because the Marvel movies built characters that I was invested in and Man of Steel just... didn't.

Obviously that's a subjective thing to a certain degree. But all of the mass destruction and carnage and attempted "seriousness" and "depth" a movie can cram in doesn't make me care about the plot if I don't care about the characters and their world first.

I may get a little grief for this, but I just don't think David Goyer is the strongest writer for this sort of thing, and I don't think Zack Snyder can direct emotions very well at all. Hopefully Chris Terrio helped get things on the right track, though.