Why is Casey Jones even IN this version of TMNT?!

[Zak The Neutrino]

I really like some of the new design aspects of Nick Casey. I like the missing teeth and I love his mask how it's painted. I agree with others in that he should be a bit bigger however he is younger than he is in some of the other series.

He should be there but definitely should be utilized more.

[Konchadunga]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Only one of the greatest motion pictures to ever be committed to celluloid!
Josie and the Pussycats

For serious though, I love this movie unironically.

Me too. I think its cleverness went over many people's heads because none of them were expecting that franchise to yield something clever.

[Galactus]

I have to say the Nick version is least favorite version of the character (until the new movie hits I'm guessing). I think the major problem lies in that to keep Casey in line with April being a teenager.

Admittedly it's kind of hard to portray the qualities Casey is known for in a teenager who has to attend school, lives with family and has to be portrayed with a more youthful optimism. He's had a few interesting moments like Race The Demon but ultimately all he brings to the table is being a romantic rival for April's affections. I think they missed an opportunity when introducing Hun to tie him to Casey like the previous series, Mirage and IDW comics did. It might have given him some depth of character and motivation to be be a vigilante beyond...well every other version did it.

It's also kinda hard to take him seriously as a vigilante without any special skills that the turtles or April have. Something the show has acknowledged itself. An adult version hardened by experience fits in fine but a child it doesn't work as well. It'd be like Robin without any training still being a member of the Teen Titans.

I'm not big on re-imagining characters but maybe Casey could keep some of the tech from his space adventure and while it sounds morbid it's not too late for Hun to do something to Casey or his family or reveal he'd done something to them in past. I know it's a cliche but might give him some grit he needs.

[psychturtle]

Totally agree with the OP. Casey has proven to me much more annoying and lacking character. I feel like he takes away from the essential chemistry of the brothers. Not a fan of this nickelodeon character at all.

[Aaronardo]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Casey's had tons of episodes, as well as episodes where he helped the Turtles. I wonder if some people have collective amnesia or something.

Tons? Let's count the episodes where he's had an actual purpose in appearing in:

1) The Good, The Bad, The Casey Jones

2) The Wrath of Tiger Claw

3) The Invasion

4) Casey Jones VS The Underworld

5) The Arena of Carnage

And no, episodes like The Wild World of Wyrm and Race with the Demon! don't count, as Casey was a major part of those episodes, but neither of those episodes contributed to any plot, meaning Casey (and, yes, everyone else) pretty much did nothing to affect their world in either of those.

But, yes, of the 53 episodes since his "true" first appearance in The Good, The Bad, The Casey Jones, he hasn't had an actual purpose of being in the episodes he was in besides the 5 episodes I've listed. In pretty much every other episode, he's just that guy that sits back and yells out that something is "awesome!" or "metal!" or "wicked!" which gets old very fast. And in action scenes, he's pretty much been a placeholder. Hell, at this point in Season 4, they've pretty much given up trying to shoehorn him in the episodes and just flat out say, "Hey Casey, we're leaving you behind again." Papen kinda has a point.

So... who has collective amnesia, Cubed?

[srmff]

Originally Posted by Aaronardo

Tons? Let's count the episodes where he's had an actual purpose in appearing in:

1) The Good, The Bad, The Casey Jones

2) The Wrath of Tiger Claw

3) The Invasion

4) Casey Jones VS The Underworld

5) The Arena of Carnage

And no, episodes like The Wild World of Wyrm and Race with the Demon! don't count, as Casey was a major part of those episodes, but neither of those episodes contributed to any plot, meaning Casey (and, yes, everyone else) pretty much did nothing to affect their world in either of those.

But, yes, of the 53 episodes since his "true" first appearance in The Good, The Bad, The Casey Jones, he hasn't had an actual purpose of being in the episodes he was in besides the 5 episodes I've listed. In pretty much every other episode, he's just that guy that sits back and yells out that something is "awesome!" or "metal!" or "wicked!" which gets old very fast. And in action scenes, he's pretty much been a placeholder. Hell, at this point in Season 4, they've pretty much given up trying to shoehorn him in the episodes and just flat out say, "Hey Casey, we're leaving you behind again." Papen kinda has a point.

So... who has collective amnesia, Cubed?

It's never just Casey that's left behind. If he's left behind, then so is April. By leaving out episodes that don't contribute to the 'plot', Casey would have a similar amount of episodes as Raph and Mikey. They both have a good few episodes that don't progress the story. In that case, Mikey and Raph are being just as under utilised. The 'filler' episodes can't just be ignored like that. They all play important parts in those episodes. You can't act as if it didn't happen just because it wasn't connected to Shredder, Kraang, etc. In those episodes whether it be Raph, Mikey or Casey they all play an important part in defeating someone.

[The Deadman]

If you're going to complain about how Casey Jones was used in the franchise, why not complain about how he was used in TMNT 3. He was essentially a babysitter for 4 Japanese warriors went back in time and that was IT.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

If you're going to complain about how Casey Jones was used in the franchise, why not complain about how he was used in TMNT 3. He was essentially a babysitter for 4 Japanese warriors went back in time and that was IT.

Many MANY more problems with that movie than Jones riding the bench.

[plastroncafe]

He's the worst in the OT than he is anywhere else.

[The Deadman]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Many MANY more problems with that movie than Jones riding the bench.

Oh i know that movie was trash lol, but for the sake of the OP, the way he was used was downright criminal in that film.

[Zak The Neutrino]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

He's the worst in the OT than he is anywhere else.

Oh come on he infiltrated Octopus Inc.

[Luckyday]

Hi! It's been a while.

Anyway, I thought his main reason for existence was act as a mouthpiece for the boys' target demographic? Even though he's much older, he's mentally a kid when reacting to situations that a older person or any sane person would be horrified by. A disturbed kid maybe but never less a kid who had been raise on tv monster movies.

[GoldMutant]

To add onto your list Aaron, I'd probably add in Mutagen Man Unleashed as Casey did make his debut here (might be minor, but he did serve a purpose with you know what. ) and Newtrailized! as he did help out in the end in the final fight. (I don't like Newtrailized though, probably among my least favorites from season 2)

Anyways, I did say this a while back, but Nick Casey is probably middle ground for me of all his incarnations. His design is nifty and may be my bias, but I do think Josh Peck does a decent job voicing what he's got. Now, can we get Drake Bell to be a villain on the show or Miranda Cosgrove pleeeeaaaasssseee?

Okay, now that I got that out of my system, if the love triangle mess didn't exist in season 2 was toned down, I'd probably say this Casey is much better. Casey Jones vs the Underworld still remains my favorite episode he's been apart of as well as my favorite of season 3 for what he can do. I will defend that episode no matter what, but if anyone wants to know why I like the episode, feel free to ask. Because if I do it here, it'll be me going off topic.

Unless we count shipping like you know, every incarnation, Casey is a main stay in the franchise. Unless we get Hun to be credible, he's not a big part of Casey's character at all. Casey is an everyday man in nearly all TMNT, the guy we can relate to the most. May not be the biggest brain in the world, but a good man willing to do what's right in his own way; at times also, a lovable guy with April. My gripe with Casey overall is just him not maturing; I might be a teen, but I'll admit I can be arrogant like Casey, but not to that degree.

Originally Posted by Luckyday

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[snake]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

He's the worst in the OT than he is anywhere else.

C'mon, he's the most entertaining there.

Maniac Casey best Casey

[Powder]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

He's the worst in the OT than he is anywhere else.

Originally Posted by snake

C'mon, he's the most entertaining there.

Maniac Casey best Casey

My dude Snake's got it right. That is pure entertainment. Mirage Casey on steroids.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

He's the worst in the OT than he is anywhere else.

That's one of his most popular incarnations. The only problem is he was so underused.

[Splinter the boss]

I actually like Casey this version, I think he is pretty cool especially with his mask. If they can find a way to include his mom and little sister in the show, I'd be satisfied with the character.

[lonewarrior20]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

He's the worst in the OT than he is anywhere else.

i think the ot casey could beat all the other casey's. i can already see how it would start if they met in the upcoming crossover episode.
2012 casey starts to tag something.
ot casey "law breaking graffete artists make me very angry punk!"
starts to pull out his bat.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Powder

My dude Snake's got it right. That is pure entertainment. Mirage Casey on steroids.

I agree 80's Casey is awesome "Face Stern Justice appliances"

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by lonewarrior20

i think the ot casey could beat all the other casey's. i can already see how it would start if they met in the upcoming crossover episode.
2012 casey starts to tag something.
ot casey "law breaking graffete artists make me very angry punk!"
starts to pull out his bat.

So basically "Falling Down" the animated version.
Pretty much exactly why I don't like him.