So WHAT exactly will Shredder do in this movie?

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Ehhh, Transformers Age of Extinction managed to find a way to make Wahlberg and Nicola Peltz bland and uninteresting. Just sayin'....

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Doubt it. Brian is fantastic. Last thing he should be is bland. But you never know could be wrong but Brian is most definitely not bland or uninteresting

An actor can only do so much with they've been given though. Just look at the star wars prequels

[TerranigmaFreak]

You think this movie will follow LOGIC!? It's a movie, the could make Shredder fight toe to toe with The Incredibly Hulk if they wanted.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by TerranigmaFreak

You think this movie will follow LOGIC!? It's a movie, the could make Shredder fight toe to toe with The Incredibly Hulk if they wanted.

Isn't that what happened last time? In fact, it wasn't just The Hulk but his 3 brothers & pet dog.

[TurtleMikey]

I assume Shredder will have some sort of enhancement in this film (and beyond) that makes him capable enough to fight the turtles, be it biological or technological like last time.

And given that proper mutagen from Dimension X is being introduced in this film, we might even see Super Shredder again on film.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by TerranigmaFreak

You think this movie will follow LOGIC!? It's a movie, the could make Shredder fight toe to toe with The Incredibly Hulk if they wanted.

Honestly, they could make Batman just bitchsmack Superman and knock him out without him even breaking his hand if they wanted, but I'm sure they won't. There's gotta be logic somewhere.

Honestly though, unless Shredder gets mutated or whatever, there's really nothing he can actually do except send Bebop, Rocksteady and Krang after them.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by TurtleMikey

I assume Shredder will have some sort of enhancement in this film (and beyond) that makes him capable enough to fight the turtles, be it biological or technological like last time.

And given that proper mutagen from Dimension X is being introduced in this film, we might even see Super Shredder again on film.

No offense but in a movie which has to provide an origin for Casey Jones, origin for Bebop and Rocksteady, set up Baxter Stockman, set up and depict an invasion by Krang and the Technodrome, set up Laura Linney as Commissioner Gordon and a sub plot for Vern being viewed as the savior of the city and squeeze in some turtle shenanigans you want Super Shredder?

That gimmicky concept would be unwelcome even if this movie wasn't already loaded with stuff.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Galactus

No offense but in a movie which has to provide an origin for Casey Jones, origin for Bebop and Rocksteady, set up Baxter Stockman, set up and depict an invasion by Krang and the Technodrome, set up Laura Linney as Commissioner Gordon and a sub plot for Vern being viewed as the savior of the city and squeeze in some turtle shenanigans you want Super Shredder?

That gimmicky concept would be unwelcome even if this movie wasn't already loaded with stuff.

Most of those things are going to suffer.

I think I can guess which ones won't.

Casey, Laura Linney, Vernon, Stockman.

[Bry]

They've trapped themselves inside their own circle of idiocy. The Turtles just had to be giant Hulks, because anything even halfway subtle is not welcome in BayTown, so the Shredder had to be wearing a giant mech suit with rocket-blades to compensate. And when -- surprise! -- everyone hated that, going more "traditional" makes him effectively useless in combat against the 'Roid-Monster Turtles. They've kneecapped their main villain because none of the big bosses of the production could bother to think about whether or not their favoured designs would suit the concept or work in the long run. This also means that Karai and the Foot Ninja are completely useless in battle against the Turtles as well (like they were last time, being thrown around like rag dolls) and are gonna wind up being strictly supporting character fodder.

It's a letdown, and a sure sign that nobody really thought this through like they should have. Nobody cared enough. Worse yet, all of this could easily have been been avoided. But this is BayTurtles -- get used to disappointment.

[Technogeek29]

Originally Posted by Bry

They've trapped themselves inside their own circle of idiocy. The Turtles just had to be giant Hulks, because anything even halfway subtle is not welcome in BayTown, so the Shredder had to be wearing a giant mech suit with rocket-blades to compensate. And when -- surprise! -- everyone hated that, going more "traditional" makes him effectively useless in combat against the 'Roid-Monster Turtles. They've kneecapped their main villain because none of the big bosses of the production could bother to think about whether or not their favoured designs would suit the concept or work in the long run. This also means that Karai and the Foot Ninja are completely useless in battle against the Turtles as well (like they were last time, being thrown around like rag dolls) and are gonna wind up being strictly supporting character fodder.

It's a letdown, and a sure sign that nobody really thought this through like they should have. Nobody cared enough. Worse yet, all of this could easily have been been avoided. But this is BayTurtles -- get used to disappointment.

Is it wrong to still feel some glimmer of hope for this production?

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Technogeek29

Is it wrong to still feel some glimmer of hope for this production?

Nah it's not wrong. You can feel any way you want about it.

Misguided, though? Sure.

[Sabacooza]

I suspect Shredder will be like he was in Secret of the Ooze and do very little or nothing. His armor is minimal and he won't be able to go toe to toe with the TMNT.

Why do I feel like history is repeating itself with this movie? We get a more cartoony Looney Tunes feel with a Shredder that will probably do very little and we also have two large mutants for the TMNT to do battle with. Seems like Secret of the Ooze all over again.

[Amaranthus]

Get killed by April, probably.

[Technogeek29]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Nah it's not wrong. You can feel any way you want about it.

Misguided, though? Sure.

won't argue that I've seen and know too much.

[M.A.C.O.]

Hopefully more than he did in the last movie and Secret of the Ooze; the other Turtle movie where he was nerfed.

By the way, whatever happened to Eric Sacks?

[DarkLightDragon]

Besides not getting "stupid rich," who knows.

Kind of hoping he's gone and never mentioned.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Don't forget they're bullet proof.

Though tranq darts pierce their skin.

[sethmartin]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

Don't forget they're bullet proof.

Though tranq darts pierce their skin.

I think the shells are bullet proof but their skin can still be injured. Makes sense.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by sethmartin

I think the shells are bullet proof but their skin can still be injured. Makes sense.

If you look closely the bullets did hit other parts of their body so at least in the 2014 movie they were bulletproof all over.

Now that may change in the sequel, in fact it's probably not an issue as it looks like the Foot have ditched the guns completely and now they have cartoon physics. They've gone from being Superman in shells to Bugs Bunny. It's like these guys don't understand the concept of balance.

Like the Shredder himself. In an attempt to to address complaints Shredder was too over the top with mechanical blades coming out of every nook of his armot in the previous movie he now has nothing but arm gauntlets and a military style helmet. Talk about over steer.

[Tora]

Originally Posted by TurtleMikey

I assume Shredder will have some sort of enhancement in this film (and beyond) that makes him capable enough to fight the turtles, be it biological or technological like last time.

And given that proper mutagen from Dimension X is being introduced in this film, we might even see Super Shredder again on film.

This. This is what I was thinking.