The worst movie ever - Page 7

~~Leo656~~ · 07-25-2003, 02:42 PM

It's physically impossible for anyone to speak in space because of the lack of oxygen required for things like speaking and sound. Superman's powers don't bend the laws of science *quite* that far.

I actually own a book called "The Science of Superman" which explains how his powers could theoretically work if he actually, y'know, existed. it's pretty interesting stuff, albeit incredibly complicated.

*That Matt Guy* · 07-25-2003, 02:44 PM

I thought he could do anything because he's "Super"

~~Leo656~~ · 07-25-2003, 02:55 PM

Not really. His powers are a result of Krypton having existed under a red dwarf sun and his Kryptonian cells more efficiently harnessing the energy from Earth's yellow sun. Basically, Kal-El's body is like a giant solar battery, absorbing the energy from the yellow sun which enhances his abilities to those "far beyond those of mortal men." His strength, invulnerability, speed and ability to fly are apparently a result of his super-dense Kryptonian phsyiology under Earth's yellow sun, his super-breath and super-senses are apparently an example of the yellow sun "enhancing" his natural senses and abilities, and his heat vision is allegedly an expulsion of excess solar energy like a waste product.

And through prolonged exposure to a red sun, he loses his powers, and it takes prolonged exposure to a yellow sun's rays to get them back again. The abscence of a yellow sun can also cause his powers to "burn out". Also, as he exerts more and more energy in a short period of time, he becomes less and less powerful (i.e., the fight with Doomsday where he died, where in the course of fighting Doomsday he exerted himself faster than his cells could process the sun's energy, leaving him weakened to the point where he was no longer "invulnerable", and he died).

Hope that clears things up a little.

*That Matt Guy* · 07-25-2003, 02:56 PM

Hmm. I thought the cape made him fly.

*Raven* · 07-25-2003, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew138

Hmm. I thought the cape made him fly.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-25-2003, 03:02 PM

How exactly he flies is a bit of a mystery. In recent years it's been explained as both a matter of density (i.e., his body density is such that he has the ability to manipulate gravity itself while under a yellow sun), but that theory makes it questionable as to how he could fly in space or anywhere outside of the reach of a yellow sun.

Earlier in the modern run of Superman (1987 or so), it was hinted that Superman's flight was actually somehow telekinetic, evidenced by the fact that while in flight, he could move or carry things without exerting himself physically (for example, while held prisoner by the Manhunters and shackled inside their ship, he managed to move the entire ship from the inside by willing himself to fly).

So yeah, his power of flight is a bit of a mystery that's never really been completely explained. But it's definitely not the cape. His mother (Martha Kent) made it for him, and she continues to do so whenever he needs a new one. What a swell lady.

*That Matt Guy* · 07-25-2003, 03:19 PM

I could have sworn that he almost died or something and he lost his powers because he got his cape taken away from him once.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-25-2003, 03:25 PM

You're probably thinking of the craptacular Superman IV, where he was scratched by Nuclear Man and apparently got some type of blood poisoning (don't ask me, that's just ONE of the things in the movie that made no damn sense). In the course of the fight, he lost his cape, in a scene that was supposed to be somehow symbolic but instead just ended up looking cheesy.

Anyway yeah him losing his cape had nothing to do with him almost dying, it was Nuclear Man's "Lee Press-On Nails of Doom". He loses his cape all the time in the comic books. His body is surrounded by a thin special protective aura which is what makes him invulnerable to harm. His cape extends outside that aura, thus it gets ripped/torn/burned and otherwise damaged quite routinely.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 07-25-2003, 03:38 PM

Oh, for crying out loud, it's just a movie!

~~Leo656~~ · 07-25-2003, 08:45 PM

This from the dude who feels the need to correct anyone who gets a TMNT cartoon quote wrong by even one word. "Hello, pot? This is the kettle... I just called to say you're black."

Oh, yeah, I just remembered that "Kids" was really sucktacular.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 07-25-2003, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

This from the dude who feels the need to correct anyone who gets a TMNT cartoon quote wrong by even one word.

Quotes are one thing...realism is something different. NYAH!

~~Leo656~~ · 07-25-2003, 10:01 PM

The most important thing is that you did NOT disagree that "Kids" was suck-travagant.

*cqb101* · 07-26-2003, 08:29 AM

Rollerball was the worst movie ever.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-26-2003, 12:08 PM

But... but Paul Heyman and Shane McMahon were in it!

*cqb101* · 07-26-2003, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

But... but Paul Heyman and Shane McMahon were in it!

Who?

~~Leo656~~ · 07-26-2003, 12:14 PM

LoL Paul Heyman used to be the owner of ECW and he was an announcer for the WWF when Rollerball was coming out. Shane McMahon is the son of Vince McMahon (owner of the WWF/WWE) and the head of their New Media department. I mentioned them as a joke b/c when Rollerball was coming out the WWF played commercials for it CONSTANTLY, hyping it to the moon because Heyman and Shane were in it.

*cqb101* · 07-26-2003, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

LoL Paul Heyman used to be the owner of ECW and he was an announcer for the WWF when Rollerball was coming out. Shane McMahon is the son of Vince McMahon (owner of the WWF/WWE) and the head of their New Media department. I mentioned them as a joke b/c when Rollerball was coming out the WWF played commercials for it CONSTANTLY, hyping it to the moon because Heyman and Shane were in it.

Oh, ok. Who did they play in it?

~~Leo656~~ · 07-26-2003, 12:21 PM

Probably very small parts. I'v only seen the commercials, but from what I saw Paul looks pretty much like he does in real life... he's the really loud, obnoxious announcer-type guy wearing a baseball cap. And I think I saw clips of Shane getting out of a limo or something. I don't really wanna see the movie to find out for certain.

*cqb101* · 07-26-2003, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Probably very small parts. I'v only seen the commercials, but from what I saw Paul looks pretty much like he does in real life... he's the really loud, obnoxious announcer-type guy wearing a baseball cap. And I think I saw clips of Shane getting out of a limo or something. I don't really wanna see the movie to find out for certain.

lol. I can't remember. I only saw the movie once and that was when it first came out in theatres. That was long ago.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 07-26-2003, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

The most important thing is that you did NOT disagree that "Kids" was suck-travagant.

Whatever the hell you're talking about...

07-26-2003, 08:29 AM	#133
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07-25-2003, 02:42 PM	#121
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	It's physically impossible for anyone to speak in space because of the lack of oxygen required for things like speaking and sound. Superman's powers don't bend the laws of science quite that far. I actually own a book called "The Science of Superman" which explains how his powers could theoretically work if he actually, y'know, existed. it's pretty interesting stuff, albeit incredibly complicated.

07-25-2003, 02:44 PM	#122
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	I thought he could do anything because he's "Super"

07-25-2003, 02:55 PM	#123
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Not really. His powers are a result of Krypton having existed under a red dwarf sun and his Kryptonian cells more efficiently harnessing the energy from Earth's yellow sun. Basically, Kal-El's body is like a giant solar battery, absorbing the energy from the yellow sun which enhances his abilities to those "far beyond those of mortal men." His strength, invulnerability, speed and ability to fly are apparently a result of his super-dense Kryptonian phsyiology under Earth's yellow sun, his super-breath and super-senses are apparently an example of the yellow sun "enhancing" his natural senses and abilities, and his heat vision is allegedly an expulsion of excess solar energy like a waste product. And through prolonged exposure to a red sun, he loses his powers, and it takes prolonged exposure to a yellow sun's rays to get them back again. The abscence of a yellow sun can also cause his powers to "burn out". Also, as he exerts more and more energy in a short period of time, he becomes less and less powerful (i.e., the fight with Doomsday where he died, where in the course of fighting Doomsday he exerted himself faster than his cells could process the sun's energy, leaving him weakened to the point where he was no longer "invulnerable", and he died). Hope that clears things up a little.

07-25-2003, 02:56 PM	#124
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	Hmm. I thought the cape made him fly.

07-25-2003, 03:02 PM	#126
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	How exactly he flies is a bit of a mystery. In recent years it's been explained as both a matter of density (i.e., his body density is such that he has the ability to manipulate gravity itself while under a yellow sun), but that theory makes it questionable as to how he could fly in space or anywhere outside of the reach of a yellow sun. Earlier in the modern run of Superman (1987 or so), it was hinted that Superman's flight was actually somehow telekinetic, evidenced by the fact that while in flight, he could move or carry things without exerting himself physically (for example, while held prisoner by the Manhunters and shackled inside their ship, he managed to move the entire ship from the inside by willing himself to fly). So yeah, his power of flight is a bit of a mystery that's never really been completely explained. But it's definitely not the cape. His mother (Martha Kent) made it for him, and she continues to do so whenever he needs a new one. What a swell lady.

07-25-2003, 03:19 PM	#127
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	I could have sworn that he almost died or something and he lost his powers because he got his cape taken away from him once.

07-25-2003, 03:25 PM	#128
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	You're probably thinking of the craptacular Superman IV, where he was scratched by Nuclear Man and apparently got some type of blood poisoning (don't ask me, that's just ONE of the things in the movie that made no damn sense). In the course of the fight, he lost his cape, in a scene that was supposed to be somehow symbolic but instead just ended up looking cheesy. Anyway yeah him losing his cape had nothing to do with him almost dying, it was Nuclear Man's "Lee Press-On Nails of Doom". He loses his cape all the time in the comic books. His body is surrounded by a thin special protective aura which is what makes him invulnerable to harm. His cape extends outside that aura, thus it gets ripped/torn/burned and otherwise damaged quite routinely.

07-25-2003, 03:38 PM	#129
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	Oh, for crying out loud, it's just a movie!

07-25-2003, 08:45 PM	#130
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	This from the dude who feels the need to correct anyone who gets a TMNT cartoon quote wrong by even one word. "Hello, pot? This is the kettle... I just called to say you're black." Oh, yeah, I just remembered that "Kids" was really sucktacular.

07-25-2003, 10:01 PM	#132
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	The most important thing is that you did NOT disagree that "Kids" was suck-travagant.

07-26-2003, 12:08 PM	#134
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	But... but Paul Heyman and Shane McMahon were in it!

07-26-2003, 12:14 PM	#136
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	LoL Paul Heyman used to be the owner of ECW and he was an announcer for the WWF when Rollerball was coming out. Shane McMahon is the son of Vince McMahon (owner of the WWF/WWE) and the head of their New Media department. I mentioned them as a joke b/c when Rollerball was coming out the WWF played commercials for it CONSTANTLY, hyping it to the moon because Heyman and Shane were in it.

07-26-2003, 12:21 PM	#138
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Probably very small parts. I'v only seen the commercials, but from what I saw Paul looks pretty much like he does in real life... he's the really loud, obnoxious announcer-type guy wearing a baseball cap. And I think I saw clips of Shane getting out of a limo or something. I don't really wanna see the movie to find out for certain.