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Old 03-22-2016, 06:01 PM   #41
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:01 PM   #42
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I went to see a fan screening.

I won't spoil anything here.

I will say though that I thoroughly enjoyed it, but I'll say that the pacing is a bit...strange I'll say. I don't know how much purposeful scenes got cut from the original 3 hour ultimate cut, but I guess whatever was definitely messes with the overall flow and pace with what remained.

And obviously, people that hated on MoS, will have their plethora of ammunition in this one too, as you would expect.
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:03 PM   #43
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I went to see a fan screening.

I won't spoil anything here.

I will say though that I thoroughly enjoyed it, but I'll say that the pacing is a bit...strange I'll say. I don't know how much purposeful scenes got cut from the original 3 hour ultimate cut, but I guess whatever was definitely messes with the overall flow and pace with what remained.

And obviously, people that hated on MoS, will have their plethora of ammunition in this one too, as you would expect.
How would you describe the portrayal of Luthor in the film? I was honestly not a fan of what was shown in the previews so far.
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:04 PM   #44
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I went to see a fan screening.

I won't spoil anything here.

I will say though that I thoroughly enjoyed it, but I'll say that the pacing is a bit...strange I'll say. I don't know how much purposeful scenes got cut from the original 3 hour ultimate cut, but I guess whatever was definitely messes with the overall flow and pace with what remained.

And obviously, people that hated on MoS, will have their plethora of ammunition in this one too, as you would expect.
Maybe the stuff that was cut will be what's in the R rated cut on bluray.
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:05 PM   #45
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I dunno guys, I think I might form my own opinion
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:07 PM   #46
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I dunno guys, I think I might form my own opinion
Yeah you should never base your opinions on what the critics say about the movie.

Btw, RT is now showing 42%
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:11 PM   #47
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Yeah you should never base your opinions on what the critics say about the movie.

Btw, RT is now showing 42%
Haha.

Sentence 1: don't listen to critics

Sentence 2: gives update on what critics are saying
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:13 PM   #48
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Critics totally matter.
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:19 PM   #49
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If this fails, it's pretty scary to think what WB will do afterward, as prone as they are to whim and overreacting/overcompensating for critical backlash. We might just get Batman in everything, no more future solo movies for Superman, pulled releases of Flash, Green Lantern Corps, etc..

Pretty sure I'll enjoy it based on what I've seen and heard so far. And I enjoyed the hell out of Man of Steel. Like that one, I'll probably really dig BvS but still leave the theater being puzzled by a few odd choices.
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:33 PM   #50
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How would you describe the portrayal of Luthor in the film? I was honestly not a fan of what was shown in the previews so far.
It's definitely portrayed different from what you go in expecting, which might be a turn off right there. But in the end, they did do things in the movie where I was like, "Yeah, that does the character justice."

Which is pretty much the movie in a nutshell, many things if not everything will probably be done in a way that you would never expect it be done, but in the end you're probably still going to get what you want in the end.

Also, I'm sorry...Affleck was great. Affleck does Batman justice. Batfleck should not be the reason you end up not liking the movie, and people that do end up saying that had already had that branded in their brains before they walked in the theater.

Again, the issue I got right now is that the pace was off, and I feel I'll need to see it again because it's just so dense with rushed pacing that I feel I missed some things that I probably need to know.
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:37 PM   #51
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So one critic bashes the film only to put down the entire genre. And then there's IGN who puts down a serious movie for not being "fun" enough. I guess superhero films should never take themselves seriously or strive to be intelligent then? Maybe Lex Luthor should be calling Superman "underoos." That would certainly be fun. When are people going to learn that critics don't mean sh*t. Who cares what they have to say unless you actually know the reviewer well enough to know that you share common opinions. Otherwise, let's just wait for the movie to come out and then we could decide whether or not we should be worried for ourselves.
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:46 PM   #52
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So one critic bashes the film only to put down the entire genre. And then there's IGN who puts down a serious movie for not being "fun" enough. I guess superhero films should never take themselves seriously or strive to be intelligent then? Maybe Lex Luthor should be calling Superman "underoos." That would certainly be fun. When are people going to learn the critics don't mean sh*t. Who cares what they have to say unless you actually know the reviewer well enough to know that you share common opinions. Otherwise, let's just wait for the movie to come out and then we could decide whether or not we should be worried for ourselves.
They were probably expecting something in the same level as the Marvel movies, but it will never be, cause Warner Bros wants there Superhero movies to be dark and gritty.
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:53 PM   #53
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Critics totally matter.
The right critics matter. You need to read from the critics that you know, especially with movies like these, know about everything that's going on, not just ones going to see the movie because it's the biggest movie out since Star Wars: TFA.

For example, I'm willing to bet there will be some film critics that will go see Cap: Civil War because it's the next huge movie on the list, having not seen all the other movies in the MCU. And you really can't do that, because Civil War is going to be the blow off of every thing that has transpired in all the other MCU movies. If you missed one movie, you're missing a chuck of the story.

Therefore, a person is going to have to see all 3 Iron Man movies, both Cap movies, both Thor movies, both Avengers movies, the Ant-Man movie, ect. to show all the destruction and chaos that happened in all those movies, otherwise there's going to be things that make no sense to how everything lead to this Civil War between everyone.

If a critic doesn't see all those movies, they're going to be missing vital elements to that movie that they might not understand that they otherwise would.

Sorry being a bit ranty, but I'm sure you get the gist.
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:57 PM   #54
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They were probably expecting something in the same level as the Marvel movies, but it will never be, cause Warner Bros wants there Superhero movies to be dark and gritty.
This is pretty accurate, I think. There's difference to be found here, and it won't be everyone's thing, but it's my thing. But so is Marvel. What, are people not allowed to like both
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Old 03-22-2016, 07:04 PM   #55
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Well it looks like this is the end. After the Justice League movie they'll probably reboot the movie universe again with an all new director.

All solo DC hero movies will likely be pulled or vastly changed. Wonder Woman will be safe but don't expect any further Superman movies, Flash, Aquaman, Green Lantern, etc. are done.

Its all over, man, its all over. Shows over, everyone go home.
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They were probably expecting something in the same level as the Marvel movies, but it will never be, cause Warner Bros wants there Superhero movies to be dark and gritty.
Which is stupid, because not every DC superhero needs a "Dark & Gritty" movie. Leave the brooding to the Bat.
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Old 03-22-2016, 07:53 PM   #57
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I dunno guys, I think I might form my own opinion
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Old 03-22-2016, 07:58 PM   #59
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Even if Batman v. Superman succeeds financially, it needs to actually be a good movie. Because then people aren't going to waste their time with Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and whatever else is down the line.

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Old 03-22-2016, 08:08 PM   #60
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Well, I've already got my ticket. (We're talking about it on the podcast I co-host, so I kind of have to.) I'm gonna keep my mind open, but a lot of the complaints echo my issues with "Man of Steel" (dour, humourless and self-serious). Hoping for the best, though.

But I'm definitely wondering if WB bet on the wrong horse with Zack Snyder. IMO, he's one of the most overrated modern directors working today, and I've never once seen him as the supposed "visionary" he's been hyped as. He's a competent director, but I think he's more focused on visual style than characters or story, and I really don't think he's a good fit for mainstream superhero movies. If this takes a critical drubbing and doesn't play a lot better with audiences than Man of Steel did, I'm gonna be very curious to see what happens next.
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