Batman/Superman Dawn of Justice movie review thread

[turtlefanforever]

The "lois is the key" that was the flash? I couldnt really tell. Looked like he had bolts stickin out of his neck.

And alfred looked like an older batman. Why would they use someone who looks so much similar and not much older? Use the guy from the dark night series. He was in a movie with "lex" right after filming this! They reused man of steel characters.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

The "lois is the key" that was the flash? I couldnt really tell. Looked like he had bolts stickin out of his neck.

Yeah, it was the Flash...not sure if that armour is meant to be futuristic or not but I hope they go for a more streamlined costume.

They reused man of steel characters.

Man of Steel is meant to be in continuity with this, the Dark Knight series is it's own thing.

[Krutch]

But again, he left his fingerprints all over every step for no good reason. Why would he equip the mercenaries/terrorists with special bullets that could be traced only to him? Why did he have to plant a bomb of his design with a person he'd met with personally in order to make Superman "look bad" when the movie made a point to show that he looked pretty bad already? These plots stood to implicate Lex more than they stood to help him.

You do realize Lex was leaving a trail for Batman right? Batman was Lex's biggest pawn.

Never mind the fact that Batman never even caught wind of this, but how does giving your men bullets that can only be traced back to you supposed to help incriminate Superman? Wouldn't that just cast more doubt on if he is being set up? Sorry, I just don't see how Batman learning this can in any way can help Lex's cause.

And I don't see why Lex Luthor was invited to the Congress hearing anyway, to be honest. Isn't that, like, the equivalent of Steve Jobs showing up for this? I mean I guess he kinda works with the government for security but it still seems like a big, big stretch.

Also wondering why Clark called his mother Martha and not "mom". But good thing he did, right?

And how did Batman take one look at Doomsday, moments after he learned of the existence of different kinds of metahumans in the world, and go "Yup, that's Kryptonian alright." Also assuming further that Kryptonite would be the only way to kill it.

Zack has gone on record saying the only reason he killed Superman was because he wanted Batman to recruit and be the leader of the Justice League, and if Superman was still around then it'd have to be him. I... I hate this guy.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Man of Steel is meant to be in continuity with this, the Dark Knight series is it's own thing.



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Surely this is a victory for good!

I know that. Still coulda picked a better alfred. Namely the one i mentioned.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by Krutch

Never mind the fact that Batman never even caught wind of this, but how does giving your men bullets that can only be traced back to you supposed to help incriminate Superman? Wouldn't that just cast more doubt on if he is being set up? Sorry, I just don't see how Batman learning this can in any way can help Lex's cause.

Batman never even caught wind? He found out KGBeast was there, and tracked him to Luthor.

The bullet thing...it was a CIA sting gone wrong, the details were classified. When the Secretary is telling Lois these things he tells her's all classified information. So the only info the public has is the opinion of the woman testifying in court. She says she heard a boom in the sky and then Superman showed up and every one was dead. They assumed Superman killed everyone because the details were never released. They even say later in the movie, Superman was involved in a fire fight and a lot of people died, and that's not even what happened. He arrived after.

And I don't see why Lex Luthor was invited to the Congress hearing anyway, to be honest. Isn't that, like, the equivalent of Steve Jobs showing up for this? I mean I guess he kinda works with the government for security but it still seems like a big, big stretch.

Who says he was invited? He's rich. Rich people pay off politicians ALL the time.

Also wondering why Clark called his mother Martha and not "mom". But good thing he did, right?

And how did Batman take one look at Doomsday, moments after he learned of the existence of different kinds of metahumans in the world, and go "Yup, that's Kryptonian alright." Also assuming further that Kryptonite would be the only way to kill it.

Wow, I keep seeing this a lot. Lois shows up and tells them something is happening at the ship...the KRYPTONIAN ship. So when a giant monster explodes out of the KRYPTONIAN ship...safe to assume it's...wait for it....KRYPTONIAN.

Zack has gone on record saying the only reason he killed Superman was because he wanted Batman to recruit and be the leader of the Justice League, and if Superman was still around then it'd have to be him. I... I hate this guy.

Ahhh yes...the old..."I hate a plot point because of behind the scenes reasons"...lamest reason to dislike something in a movie. If you watch his answer it's a legit reason. He needs Batman to accept these meta-humans and get them to team up. It's more important to Batman's character building than it is to Superman's at this point. Superman also needed to die. The world was in such divide over him, but now that they know he gave his life for them, they celebrate him. Then when he comes back you all get get the Superman who smiles and puts his hands on his hips and saves granny's from getting hit by cars.

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

I know that. Still coulda picked a better alfred. Namely the one i mentioned.

That Alfred was perfect.

[Turo602]

I figured he called her Martha instead of mom because he didn't want to reveal his relation to her. But yeah, it did sound weird at first.

Also, I can't believe I've actually seen people bitching about the dirt lifting off the coffin at the end. This is the equivalent of people calling the Batman and Superman team up in the trailer a spoiler. Who the f*ck actually believed Superman was going to stay dead?

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

The bullet thing...it was a CIA sting gone wrong, the details were classified. When the Secretary is telling Lois these things he tells her's all classified information. So the only info the public has is the opinion of the woman testifying in court. She says she heard a boom in the sky and then Superman showed up and every one was dead. They assumed Superman killed everyone because the details were never released. They even say later in the movie, Superman was involved in a fire fight and a lot of people died, and that's not even what happened. He arrived after.

So... I want to make sure I'm getting this right.
The details were intended to be classified, which means Batman couldn't know about it. Meaning all Batman was meant to know was "there was an incident, Superman was involved = Superman was likely responsible." Is that what I'm getting? Okay, so then why equip your men with bullets that can be only traced back to you? Why not just normal bullets? And why assume Batman, a vigilante who has proved he can gather intel well above his resources, wouldn't be able to find out these classified documents? If its a classified incident, what made Lex trust that any information would get out at all and that it wouldn't just get buried?

Who says he was invited? He's rich. Rich people pay off politicians ALL the time.

To a congress hearing? And if he wants to remain incognito about the whole thing, why would he want to be there? In fact, why would he want to be the only person who conveniently wasn't there? And who let him just leave a giant jar of piss on the podium?

Also wondering why Clark called his mother Martha and not "mom". But good thing he did, right?

Thank God for plot convenience!

Wow, I keep seeing this a lot. Lois shows up and tells them something is happening at the ship...the KRYPTONIAN ship. So when a giant monster explodes out of the KRYPTONIAN ship...safe to assume it's...wait for it....KRYPTONIAN.

Uhhh... No, it is NOT safe to assume anything, actually. Especially after learning Lex has been experimenting on metahumans in undisclosed locations. Especially after learning Lex has gained access to the ship. Especially when it doesn't remotely resemble anything Kryptonian. Especially after 17 months or however long it was between hiding there's been zero Kryptonian activity from within the ship. Just because he heard someone say "It came from over there!" he's so dead certain that he's Kryptonian to warrant a plan that brings Doomsday off the small, isolated island closer to Gotham And honestly, whose to say there wasn't lifeforms on the ship that wasn't Kryptonian to begin with? Like, alien lifeforms that were on Zod's ship not of Krypton origin. How's Kryptonite gonna help then?

Ahhh yes...the old..."I hate a plot point because of behind the scenes reasons"...lamest reason to dislike something in a movie. If you watch his answer it's a legit reason. He needs Batman to accept these meta-humans and get them to team up. It's more important to Batman's character building than it is to Superman's at this point. Superman also needed to die. The world was in such divide over him, but now that they know he gave his life for them, they celebrate him. Then when he comes back you all get get the Superman who smiles and puts his hands on his hips and saves granny's from getting hit by cars.

I think it's a very fair to point out the guy in charge of crafting Superman for a new age would rather kill him then see him form the Justice League instead of everyone's favourite, Batman.

I don't have an issue with him killing Superman so long as its justified. And for what they were going for here, it wasn't justified. I mean, I get it. As you said..
"The world was in such divide over him, but now that they know he gave his life for them, they celebrate him." I agree that's definitely what they were going for but the execution is all wrong. Remember how in Death of Superman he fought Doomsday in the broad daylight in the middle of Metropolis? Where everyone could see? And everyone saw each and every blow he took until he literally died protecting them? Everyone watched as Lois ran up and cradled him, bawling her eyes out?

So, with that in mind, what did we get in BvS? A night time brawl in an uninhabited location out of sight of everyone. And if you can say "People COULD see what happened" then you're also admitting that they could have seen Batman and Superman fighting each other earlier. So, pretty much, yeah... nobody knows what the hell happened. Just that Superman died. Is that going to be enough to warrant everyones change of heart? And would nobody think Batman was responsible? Or this mysterious Amazonian Warrior who's now out there?

Again, I get what they were going for, but by keeping the fight so isolated it kind of defeats the purpose. People need to see him get beaten to death. It's a cold visceral way of learning how wrong they were in not trusting him. This is just like... "In other news, Superman was killed after a rogue alien emerged just north of Gotham Harbour. Batman and a female Amazonian warrior were also on the scene." Not to mention, possibly adding "Superman was last seen fighting Batman atop a building."

'Know what I'm saying'?

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by Krutch

So... I want to make sure I'm getting this right.
The details were intended to be classified, which means Batman couldn't know about it. Meaning all Batman was meant to know was "there was an incident, Superman was involved = Superman was likely responsible." Is that what I'm getting? Okay, so then why equip your men with bullets that can be only traced back to you? Why not just normal bullets? And why assume Batman, a vigilante who has proved he can gather intel well above his resources, wouldn't be able to find out these classified documents? If its a classified incident, what made Lex trust that any information would get out at all and that it wouldn't just get buried?

Batman is tracking KGBeast because he does dealings in Gotham. He's torturing criminals to get info on KGBeast, which ultimately leads him to Luthor. Lex providing bullets doesn't make him guilty of the attack in any way. People buy weapons, and ammunition, the seller isn't automatically suspect of the crime.

To a congress hearing? And if he wants to remain incognito about the whole thing, why would he want to be there? In fact, why would he want to be the only person who conveniently wasn't there? And who let him just leave a giant jar of piss on the podium?

When, at any point in the movie is Lex trying to be incognito? He invites the Senator to his home to tell her he's trying to make a "Silver bullet". He talks to the Senator outside of the court house. He's making it well known he's anti Superman. They blame the bomb on Wallace, because he's the one who was carrying it. Lex not being there isn't a crime.

Regarding the Martha thing, I forgot to address it last time. Superman is in complete disarray because of the kryptonite. I could be completely wrong on this, but maybe he says it because Batman already mentioned his parents. He says "your parents probably taught you" so maybe him saying Martha, is a last ditch effort to get him to realize a real person is at stake here. Maybe he didn't want to say "My mother" because maybe Batman doesn't care about Superman's family. But maybe hearing a name, coincidentally the same name as his own mother, knocked him back into reality. Or maybe, just maybe, since Superman knows Bruce is Batman, he did some research and knew their mothers shared a name? I will admit here, if this was filmed, and it's in the extended version, they should have kept it in the movie.

Uhhh... No, it is NOT safe to assume anything, actually. Especially after learning Lex has been experimenting on metahumans in undisclosed locations. Especially after learning Lex has gained access to the ship. Especially when it doesn't remotely resemble anything Kryptonian. Especially after 17 months or however long it was between hiding there's been zero Kryptonian activity from within the ship. Just because he heard someone say "It came from over there!" he's so dead certain that he's Kryptonian to warrant a plan that brings Doomsday off the small, isolated island closer to Gotham And honestly, whose to say there wasn't lifeforms on the ship that wasn't Kryptonian to begin with? Like, alien lifeforms that were on Zod's ship not of Krypton origin. How's Kryptonite gonna help then?

Ok, you are saying it doesn't resemble anything Kryptonian...to YOU. To them, the only aliens they know about are Kryptonians. Lex even seems to think all these "meta-humans" will be stopped with Kryptonite. It doesn't matter that there has been zero activity from the ship, because all the sudden, now there is. To Bruce and anyone else they have to assume its Kryptonian. Superman knows for sure because he was there when it came alive.

I think it's a very fair to point out the guy in charge of crafting Superman for a new age would rather kill him then see him form the Justice League instead of everyone's favourite, Batman.

I don't have an issue with him killing Superman so long as its justified. And for what they were going for here, it wasn't justified. I mean, I get it. As you said..
"The world was in such divide over him, but now that they know he gave his life for them, they celebrate him." I agree that's definitely what they were going for but the execution is all wrong. Remember how in Death of Superman he fought Doomsday in the broad daylight in the middle of Metropolis? Where everyone could see? And everyone saw each and every blow he took until he literally died protecting them? Everyone watched as Lois ran up and cradled him, bawling her eyes out?

So, with that in mind, what did we get in BvS? A night time brawl in an uninhabited location out of sight of everyone. And if you can say "People COULD see what happened" then you're also admitting that they could have seen Batman and Superman fighting each other earlier. So, pretty much, yeah... nobody knows what the hell happened. Just that Superman died. Is that going to be enough to warrant everyones change of heart? And would nobody think Batman was responsible? Or this mysterious Amazonian Warrior who's now out there?

Again, I get what they were going for, but by keeping the fight so isolated it kind of defeats the purpose. People need to see him get beaten to death. It's a cold visceral way of learning how wrong they were in not trusting him. This is just like... "In other news, Superman was killed after a rogue alien emerged just north of Gotham Harbour. Batman and a female Amazonian warrior were also on the scene." Not to mention, possibly adding "Superman was last seen fighting Batman atop a building."

'Know what I'm saying'?

He didn't kill him to only let Batman create Justice League. His death served two purposes which I've already listed.

I can only assume the reason for the differences in fight locations from the book to the movie is because we already saw MASSIVE daytime destruction in MoS. This also shows that Batman is kind of teaching Superman here, like looks we're going to fight in a controlled environment. People don't need to see him die. But I get it, you prefer the book over the movie. I won't defend the set dressing because I would have preferred the book's visuals as well. When he was laying there, I was saying in my head, "come on Lois lay him in your lap!" and was a little disappointed that he wasn't more torn to shreds and bleeding. I think a lot of people who have negative things to say about this movie, think that anyone who doesn't share a negative opinion thinks this movie is perfect and the greatest movie ever. That's not true at all. I really loved this movie, but there were times where I was like "huh?" or didn't like some things. When Batman is standing over Superman, again, in my head I was saying "Say it! SAY ITTTTTT!" meaning the classic "in you most private moments" line. And I felt a little robbed when that didn't happen. That doesn't make me hate the movie though.

I've seen countless reviews where the person seems SO annoyed at the movie and then give it 8/10, and they're so disgusted having to give it an 8/10...I just don't get that at all. If I'm giving a movie an 8/10 which is what I'd give this movie, I'd be very excited to give it an 8/10.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Krutch

So...!


Uhhh... No, it is NOT safe to assume anything, actually. Especially after learning Lex has been experimenting on metahumans in undisclosed locations. Especially after learning Lex has gained access to the ship. Especially when it doesn't remotely resemble anything Kryptonian. Especially after 17 months or however long it was between hiding there's been zero Kryptonian activity from within the ship. Just because he heard someone say "It came from over there!" he's so dead certain that he's Kryptonian to warrant a plan that brings Doomsday off the small, isolated island closer to Gotham And honestly, whose to say there wasn't lifeforms on the ship that wasn't Kryptonian to begin with? Like, alien lifeforms that were on Zod's ship not of Krypton origin. How's Kryptonite gonna help??
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'Know what I'm saying'?

Were you provided with a picture of the Male & female anatomy ? How do you know what something kryptonian looks like? What gives you the right to say "thats kryptonian" or "that's not kryptonian"

[Andrew NDB]

Here's what I posted on FB:

Saw Batman V Superman. Spoilers to come, so look away if you haven't seen it. I really dug it, about as much as Man of Steel (which I loved). I think. I'd venture there's actually a great movie under here somewhere, if all the very blatantly (and awkwardly) shoe-horned "gotta set up the JL movie, gotta set up the Aquaman movie, gotta set up the Cyborg movie, gotta set up the Wonder Woman movie" had been cut out or edited with a lot more subtlety. Also, a little bit confused about Lex Luthor's (and I love how they gave themselves a back door in case he doesn't rate critically well... "Dad" could just come in and take over in any sequel in case their little Mega Zuckerberg experiment fails) endgame plan. I liked the earlier plan, to basically trick Batman into stealing his kryptonite to use against Superman and making him think he's doing it below board... but the Doomsday plan. That's pretty shoddy. Luthor was basically banking on Batman and *maybe* Wonder Woman (not Superman, since he was already generating Doomsday at this point and it's unlikely he could bank on a "cancel" button) taking on a creature even more powerful than Superman. Why would he do this? Who's to say Batman wouldn't have already expended his supply of kryptonite killing Superman by this point, let alone even knowing Doomsday is Kryptonian to know to use any on him? (or even be able to). Point is, Doomsday would have just killed Batman, obliterated Gotham and Metropolis and basically the whole nerve center of LexCorp and just gone around the world uncontested. Sh*t plan.

Things I *really* liked:

* Batman. Seems the part. Seems the Arkham Asylum kind of character.

* Wonder Woman. Cool. But barely in it, as most reviews say.

* The Batman vs. Superman fight. It's pretty visceral.

* Superman's death. Might not have been handled in really the best way or the appropriate heartstrings pulled, but it worked. Kind of like Dark Knight Rises when I saw Bane cast but I didn't think they'd break Batman's back like in the comics, I didn't think Doomsday would actually "kill" Superman. He does, and it's roughly the same as Superman #75. Minus the onlookers. It's just Lois. And a Batman and Wonder Woman who barely knows him/cares about him.

Things I really *didn't* like:

* Luthor. I was fully open to Eisenberg doing his Social Network persona on steroids as Luthor and seeing what would happen but... this didn't work. I wish the Joaquin Phoenix rumors had been true, that might have been something. As is, they did leave themselves a backdoor with all the talk of his dad.

* Batman killing. A whole lot of people. Batman leaving the railcar in "Batman Begins" with Ra's al Ghul saying, "I'm not going to kill you... but I don't have to save you" is one thing, but openly firing guns (and... guns? obviously he can use them built into his car or plane to shoot open doors and such... but that's one of the things that defines him is how anti-gun he is, despite making necessary exceptions in infinitesimal examples) at vehicles blowing up bad guys left and right? Running them over at times? These aren't things any version of the character would do, and I think it's a very odd choice, particularly as reactionary as this whole movie is of WB bowing to all the complaints of "Proto Superman didn't try to save anyone in the last movie!!! WAHHH!!!" If there's anyone complaining about Superman killing Doomsday (which is, essentially, just killing Zod a second time) that's just stupid, though. He, like with Zod, killed him in the comics. It's there. It happened. Now it's on screen. Shut up.

* That Flash sucks ass. Terrible. Terrible costume (or is that the future costume? then that's a sh*tty future version of the costume) and terrible casting. And the Aquaman cameo was literally embarrassing to watch. The Cyborg cameo... more awkward, like, let's take 2 minutes out of the movie to watch an origin that has no bearing on anything in this film other than this is clearly something WB wants to have happen. Think Thor's visions in Avengers 2, or almost all of Spider-Man 3.

* No mention of Green Lantern. If there was a DC Holy Quartet and not just a Trinity (which is bullsh*t in itself, Wonder Woman has always gotten sh*t on unjustly for decades while there's a bajillion Batman and Superman things out there), the fourth member would easily be Green Lantern. There is no reason under the sun why he wouldn't appear here were it not for the underperformance of the GL movie a few years back. Which goes back to WB having no backbone. Or master plan that's coherent.

[ZariusTwo]

WB release a deleted scene (probably to help promote the Ultimate Cut pre-orders)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

WB release a deleted scene (probably to help promote the Ultimate Cut pre-orders)

Is that not the quickest release of a deleted/extended scene EVER? Wow.

You'd think they'd release a scene of Jenna Malone instead.

[Xav]

So why the heck does Batman leave his Kryptonite spear in the middle of an abandoned building instead of you know taking it with him to fight Superman? Oh and when Superman shows up his plan is to have guns shoot him with normal bullets? Why was Batman such an idiot in this movie?

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

Lex providing bullets doesn't make him guilty of the attack in any way. People buy weapons, and ammunition, the seller isn't automatically suspect of the crime.

But it certainly does serve to incriminate him. Again, I ask, WHY equip bullets that can only lead to you? Why not just provide your men with normal bullets and remain completely invisible? Please, somebody answer this. Not "because that doesn't make him guilty", because thats not a reason, thats an excuse. Please explain to me why Lex Luthor basically slapped his name on all the bullets he gave his men used to frame Superman.

When, at any point in the movie is Lex trying to be incognito? He invites the Senator to his home to tell her he's trying to make a "Silver bullet". He talks to the Senator outside of the court house. He's making it well known he's anti Superman. They blame the bomb on Wallace, because he's the one who was carrying it. Lex not being there isn't a crime.

Not incognito to the Senator, to Batman.

Regarding the Martha thing, I forgot to address it last time. Superman is in complete disarray because of the kryptonite. I could be completely wrong on this, but maybe he says it because Batman already mentioned his parents. He says "your parents probably taught you" so maybe him saying Martha, is a last ditch effort to get him to realize a real person is at stake here. Maybe he didn't want to say "My mother" because maybe Batman doesn't care about Superman's family. But maybe hearing a name, coincidentally the same name as his own mother, knocked him back into reality. Or maybe, just maybe, since Superman knows Bruce is Batman, he did some research and knew their mothers shared a name? I will admit here, if this was filmed, and it's in the extended version, they should have kept it in the movie.

It's a nice idea, but I think you're reaching. There's nothing concrete in the script that supports this.

Ok, you are saying it doesn't resemble anything Kryptonian...to YOU.

No, I'm saying it doesn't resemble anything Kryptonian to anyone, Superman included. The only Kryptonians we've seen look like normal men and women. Suddenly, over a year later, a monster emerges from around the ship and its a %100 percent sure thing its Kryptonian. Makes no sense, especially given how much Bruce has learned about metahumans and Lex in the last few days. And to make the leap that only Kryptonite can kill it... It's just stupid. And the ships AI says it has a genetic database of a stupidly high amount of species, too.

He didn't kill him to only let Batman create Justice League. His death served two purposes which I've already listed.

No, he killed him to only let Batman create Justice League. The writers were tasked with making it mean something. And I get what they were going for, but they're execution was all wrong.

I can only assume the reason for the differences in fight locations from the book to the movie is because we already saw MASSIVE daytime destruction in MoS.

I suspect thats the reason, too. But I think as long as we see Superman take a more proactively defensive role for protecting people than none at all like in Man of Steel, people would be willing to go for it.

I get it, you prefer the book over the movie.

I don't! lol seriously, its a terrible book that hasn't aged well at all. But they did get that part right, at least.

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

Were you provided with a picture of the Male & female anatomy ? How do you know what something kryptonian looks like? What gives you the right to say "thats kryptonian" or "that's not kryptonian"

By your own logic, what gives Batman the right to say whats kryptonian and whats not?

[AT-Man]

Too bad the best part of the movie was a dream sequence. Or rather the best looking part.

B/S fight was stupid and started just because Batman was "I don't wanna listen lalalalalala!" Then they throw each other through walls and little else.

There's nothing good about Eisenberg as Luthor.

Batman's voice sounded a lot better without the robotic tint, so why was it even a thing? He's also a murderer, who literally gunned people down, blew them up and ran them over.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Xav

He's also a murderer, who literally gunned people down, blew them up and ran them over.

True. Not quite sure he's the best guy to be putting together the Justice League...

[Andrew NDB]

Also, can someone jog my memory? Luthor found out Superman is Clark Kent, right? Presumably the same way he had dossiers on the other Leaguers?

A little hazy, though, on afterward how Superman knew Batman was Bruce Wayne, or Wayne knew Superman is Clark Kent.

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Also, can someone jog my memory? Luthor found out Superman is Clark Kent, right? Presumably the same way he had dossiers on the other Leaguers?

A little hazy, though, on afterward how Superman knew Batman was Bruce Wayne, or Wayne knew Superman is Clark Kent.

I'd guess that was due to Clark overhearing Bruce and Alfred's communication during the party. I might be wrong though.

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Also, can someone jog my memory? Luthor found out Superman is Clark Kent, right? Presumably the same way he had dossiers on the other Leaguers?

A little hazy, though, on afterward how Superman knew Batman was Bruce Wayne, or Wayne knew Superman is Clark Kent.

They didn't explain how Lex knew Clark was Superman - my guess was the ship told him even though that doesn't really make sense. The bigger question for me is how Lex knew Bruce was Batman?