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Yeah, we all thought so at first, but according to Ciro, it's not. There's a guy working on the show who happens to have that same surname. Still works just fine as an incidental reference, at least.
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But Nick has created a ton of new characters, so I don't understand where this "myth" that all Nick does is re-use Fred Wolf characters comes from. They've brought back old Mirage, original toon, 4kids, and Archie characters into the show and created new ones.
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I'd go with the lack of marketing, the horrible Northampton arc, and Bay's damage of the franchise as the causes of this.
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TV ratings are nothing tbh. Most people watch online nowadays.
As long the toys and merchs keep selling, we're good. |
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But here's the thing....what's old to you is new to somebody else. Not everyone has watched/read all the other incarnations of this 30+ year old franchise.
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I kinda agree, the vast majority of "old characters" are basically new for most of the fanbase. Especially given some characters are given drastically different origins or personalities.
Mona Lisa is an alien in this series, in the original she was a mutant. Lord Dregg is different here than he was in the OT, Armaggon isn't a time traveling shark like he was in Archie, etc. |
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Exaxtly. The people who watch shows on tv are a minority compared to those who watch online. The money that Nickelodeon is making from episodes s sales on Itunes and the sales of toys is what is keeping the slow alive. And since both the sales of episodes and toys are very very high we have nothing to worry about.
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The toys? Absolutely. That's paramount. Always has been.
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The show has already been renewed for Season 5, and we're only halfway into Season 4 airing right now. So the show will go on through 2017 at least.
I highly suspect the show will get 7 seasons like the 2k3 series did before they call it quits. |
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it's the time slot. most people aren't home to watch it. they're either at church or their working. i loved it when they switched the show to friday night for while.
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OK, so we have a lot of folks saying that a lot of the kiddies are watching this show online now. Do we have any thing that shows what the online ratings are?
That might help shed light on what the true status of this show is. |
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Kids are watching the show online illegally. You can't keep track of something like that.
You guys do realize that there are sites that put up every kids cartoon online streaming for free? And they're all easily found by a quick google search? You don't even have to use torrents anymore. What time period are some of you living in? We're not in 2002 anymore! |
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What about the toy sales? How have they been faring lately?
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Well...I would say that everyone's got it.
- Easy access to online streaming; Nick's streaming site sucks, so of course people would be looking for other ways to watch it. Even if it means illegally. - Time slot and day. Sundays at 11? Bad move - Age change in audience. The original audience is made up of teenagers, and those who are keeping up are nostalgic adults or the loyal dregs of the original audience.
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Be that as it may, barring a few exceptions, I've never known TMNT to be of particular fondness to traditionally Christian parents. Violence, eastern spiritual themes, etc. They drummed up a lot of controversy back in the day, as I'm sure you recall. In my experience, kids raised under strong faith were typically not allowed to watch it. Maybe today's Christian parents are different, I dunno.
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The only way I can really put this is, it's boring. It used to be more interesting; this series had a good sense of humor at the start, and it seemed like a lot of the ideas they were experimenting with had potential. Its reinvention of old characters was generally impressive. Unfortunately, it now feels like it's just treading water. There aren't enough jokes, there isn't enough suspense, there isn't much character development; it all just is.
I think the problem might be that they've thrusted the series into a whole new scenario faster than they have time to develop it. While this series' villains were never deep, with the Triceratons it seems like they've reached an all-new generic low for villains; it manages to turn the race against time to save Earth from destruction into something I don't care about, because the villains looking to destroy it don't leave any impression on me; it's impossible to suspend disbelief. The scenarios they go through in space just come and go too rapidly to make an impression, too. Maybe a Lovecraft-inspired ocean world would be interesting if they fleshed it out; as it is, it's just one of many nods to science fiction mainstays they're doing here. Same with an alien town that looks like Tatooine, a basic scenario that looks like Star Trek, an actor from Doctor Who etc. In this case, no; I don't think catering to nostalgia works, because you can't just survive on references to things people like. Diving into why they like them is more important. As somebody on these forums, maybe or maybe not the thread creator, once put it, "Hey; remember that" is not clever writing.
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