Batman/Superman Dawn of Justice movie review thread

[turtlefanforever]

so the big gripe is there is consequences to Supermans actions? you think nobody is gonna get hurt while he is saving the world and crashing through buildings?

[NinjaPug]

At CinemaCon, the head of WB just confirmed Affleck will be directing the next solo Batman movie.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

so the big gripe is there is consequences to Supermans actions? you think nobody is gonna get hurt while he is saving the world and crashing through buildings?

No the big gripe is heroes causing mass destruction indiscriminately and/or killing people outright in the first place. That might fly for someone like Punisher or Deadpool, but that's NOT the kind of hero Batman is, and most CERTAINLY not Supes! Also, the whole "nobody understands me, I'm all alone" emo schtick works for Bats, but not Superman. That's not his mindset at all. Never has been. It's completely OOC for him. There is so much wrong here it's almost criminal.

[Shark_Blade]

Batman standalone film starring and directed by Ben Affleck confirmed.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/...leck-confirmed

Yas!

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I'm excited! Keep Synder and Goyer away from this movie!

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

No the big gripe is heroes causing mass destruction indiscriminately and/or killing people outright in the first place. That might fly for someone like Punisher or Deadpool, but that's NOT the kind of hero Batman is, and most CERTAINLY not Supes! Also, the whole "nobody understands me, I'm all alone" emo schtick works for Bats, but not Superman. That's not his mindset at all. Never has been. It's completely OOC for him. There is so much wrong here it's almost criminal.

Sadfleck will be directing Batfleck. Perfleck.

[Shark_Blade]

Batman killed The Joker in The Dark Knight Returns. Ben Afflecks is an old version and has seen **** so it's fine for him to kill too tbh. He's harden and hardcore.

Superman also kills when necessary, I see no problem there. Eliminate the evil permanently.

Time changes people and its a good change.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Batman killed The Joker in The Dark Knight Returns.

Um, no. Joker killed himself by twisting his neck after Batman broke it.

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Superman kills when necessary too, I see no problem there.

Because it goes against his code in the comics about taking a life if it's avoidable.

[NinjaPug]

How can anyone possibly think Batman killed the Joker in TDKR?

[CyberCubed]

Are we talking about the movie or the comic?

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

How can anyone possibly think Batman killed the Joker in TDKR?

Wait, the comic in which he snaps his neck?

I mean, he doesn't quite kill him, but ...

Anyway, not seeing this movie, whatever whatever.

EDIT -- The movie this thread is about, not an Affleck-directed Batman movie, which could be fine.

[CyberCubed]

Someone asked PL what he thought of the movie, and here's what PL had to say.

I did see it, with my daughter on opening weekend. I plan to see it again to refresh my memory for a blog review I might write, but I will say the following for now -- that it was really cool to see Batman and Superman together in the same movie, that Ben Affleck made an excellent Batman/Bruce Wayne, that Wonder Woman was nifty, and that the "Martha" thing was incredibly goofy. -- PL

PL seems a bit more positive on it than people here. What are your thoughts on what PL thinks?

[NinjaPug]

That doesn't seem any more positive than most people's thoughts on here. Most detractors of the movie liked Batfleck and Wonder Woman and thought the "Martha" idea was terrible just like PL.

[CyberCubed]

I vaguely remember PL posting a Man of Steel review on his blog too years ago when it came out, I remember him not liking it very much either.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Time changes people and its a good change.

This mindset have led us to the current TMNT movies and various other ****.
Changes are good and I will be the first one to support them, but only, as long they are good changes.
Changing iconic characters personality and motivations to the point where they become complete opposite of what they've been is a BAD change, no matter how you look at it. There could be exceptions, but you need a truly talented writer to pull it off.

Originally Posted by myconius

releasing a line of children's toys from a movie where Batman snaps people's necks and Superman dies -- not sure who thought that was a good idea?

Oh, c'mon, in the 90s there were toy lines based of RoboCop. So, toys based on flick about Murderman and Killman are not really something special.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Someone asked PL what he thought of the movie, and here's what PL had to say.



PL seems a bit more positive on it than people here. What are your thoughts on what PL thinks?

If he has time to review that piece of sh*t, he has time to review PDMT.

[NinjaPug]

This is crazy if true - according to this Superman/Clark Kent only had 43 lines of dialogue in BvS.

http://www.thewrap.com/superman-only...an-v-superman/

[CyberCubed]

Considering a lot of Superman's scenes are him just standing there with a grimace on, I can believe it.

[sdp]

The Martha thing was pretty fun to me, the whole reason for them fighting and stopping was very weak but the problem wasn't exactly the "Martha", it just wasn't set up well enough.

No Batman and Superman should definitely not kill. I really didn't see Batman killing anyone intentionally except for the flame thrower guy and even then you could argue he only hit the gas tank and not him. I can let it go since Batman kills this way in all his other movies and he doesn't do it as blatantly here as in the others. Superman killing in MOS made perfect sense to me since he had no choice and you can see it in his face that he was mad at himself for doing it.

Cavill makes a great Superman, he isn't that out of character here as people make it out to be, maybe just a few times but that's just me. Ironically enough if he acted a bit more like a boy scout people would bash it for being so "unrelatable".

The more I think about it and the JL cameos were just stupid, seeing the icons in the files is all we really needed and those scenes kind of drag. I mean I wanted the files to be opened since the fanboy in me wanted to see it so badly but looking back it wasn't a good idea.

The problem with the movie getting trashed by everyone is that it makes me want to defend the things that worked for me and not nitpick the things I hated about it which there was plenty of, just not the whole internet gang up against this movie for not meeting crazy and entirely different expectations.. On a final note I'm happy to hear DC rethinking and maybe cancelling some of the movies they had announced. I mean I don't like having so many movies announced at once, do we really need a Cyborg origin? Or an Aquaman movie? Maybe after we see them in JL and like the characters. When JL the cartoon premiered we only really "knew" Batman and Superman and it worked, not everyone needs a solo movie/cartoon or be introduced through one first before joining the big leagues.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sdp

the JL cameos were just stupid, seeing the icons in the files is all we really needed

We really didn't need that. Seeing all of their logos arranged there in a directory like some kind of comic book online store was stupid. And the Aquaman bit was embarassingly bad.