MCU Future Possibilities

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

I bet you said nobody would care about Batman anymore after the Clooney film and...well...

You could say that about the Michael Keaton movies and not be entirely wrong. Batman Returns came out in 92 and Batman was pretty much a joke until 2005, with Batman Begins. That's a little while. Though that was more... "Let's intentionally make the franchise a joke for two movies in a row after Keaton leaves" and not just as simple as "We're gonna be in trouble because we have to recast Michael Keaton."

[ToTheNines]

I'm a HUGE fan of pretty much all things MCU, but I kinda wish it'd end with IW part 2. Obviously it won't, they make so much money, but I prefer stuff like this to end before it jumps the shark.

But yeah, more Ant-Man/Wasp, Spider-Man, Cap Marvel and a Louis Leterrier directed Hulk flick with Ruffalo taking on The Leader are all on my wishlist. Maybe bring The Defenders into the movie world. Or AoS characters like Quake and Mockingbird.

Or, better yet, Patton Oswalt's filibuster crossover!

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

The Soloist was gut-wrenching but I doubt any of you have seen it.

Iron Man v. Electro: Dawn of Cello.

But for real, great movie.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

You could say that about the Michael Keaton movies and not be entirely wrong. Batman Returns came out in 92 and Batman was pretty much a joke until 2005, with Batman Begins. That's a little while. Though that was more... "Let's intentionally make the franchise a joke for two movies in a row after Keaton leaves" and not just as simple as "We're gonna be in trouble because we have to recast Michael Keaton."

Batman Returns is a joke too.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Batman Returns is a joke too.

I like it less now than as a kid, but it's still at least thematically consistent with the first one. And entertaining and not empty-headed camp.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Random thought: I want Marvel to get the FF rights just so that they can say that Stan Lee is the Watcher in the MCU.

[CyberCubed]

I dunno, did anyone expect the X-men movie franchise to be going 16 years without any real reboots? I can see Marvel universe lasting 16 years.

[sdp]

It did get two reboots of sorts with First Class and then with Days of Future Past. Also we're talking about two different things when X-Men first came out we only got a movie every once in a while, and when they tried to expand with the "Origins" it failed and we never got the second movie in that line. They tried to expand again this time with Fantastic Four but failed terribly and the confirmed "shared universe" between them is all but dead; At least Deadpool worked out for them and they're getting a TV show so who knows maybe it'll work out with their "only" mutants shared universe. Which I guess it works for best since I never understood how mutants could be hated while superpowered heroes praised in the Marvel Universe.

F4 back at Marvel I'm not crazy for it but I"m ok for it since they'd be able to use so many awesome characters and maybe treat them with respect only problem is the MCU is already so bloated and the F4 already had 3 tries that it would be harder to deal with than Spider-Man and for the to only use their villains would kind of make me mad since I like the F4 but yeah you can't do Cosmic Marvel without them which is something I'd love to see.

I'm still pissed that Fox never did a shared universe with Daredevil/F4, it was totally doable and they just let the rights lapse. Some might say that DD is better off with Marvel but they're already so bloated like I mentioned earlier. Sony could've also handled their plans for a shared universe better, I mean they shouldn't have let Punisher and Ghostrider go and have a Spider-Man movie with those characters, it would've worked since they had comic stories they could've adapted. Each shared universe would've been less bloated and with Sony with Spider-Man and Fox with X-Men they really didn't need as many heroes as say the MCU did since those franchises are already so fleshed out they have plenty to work with and only have the other lesser heroes interact from time to time to spice things up. I even made a thread pre-Iron man about a crossover movie with all the movie Marvel heroes so its definitely something I've had in mind before the MCU was even a thing.

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

Random thought: I want Marvel to get the FF rights just so that they can say that Stan Lee is the Watcher in the MCU.

I remember someone suggesting that once and that'd be a great cameo especially since it'd make all his previous cameos canon in a sense. How old is he now? He's not likely to be with us for much longer.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sdp

and when they tried to expand with the "Origins" it failed and we never got the second movie in that line.

We sort of did. Large portions of the script for X-Men Origins: Magneto were rolled into the script for "First Class."

[AT-Man]

When they eventually recast the main heroes, I hope it will be in a one big swoop in the beginning of a new phase. It would feel stupid to have some of the original cast with some new faces. That's how you soft reboot, after 10-20 years the characters are again as old as they were in the beginning and only hint at events that occurred with the old cast. In 2050 is Iron Man (40yo) reminiscing the time 30 years ago when they fought Thanos?

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by sdp

I never understood how mutants could be hated while superpowered heroes praised in the Marvel Universe.

That's a valid complaint, really. X-Men's themes work great within their own world but while sharing a greater universe where everyone loves Spider-Man... the whole thing begins to fall apart.

You mentioned Ghost Rider... ugh. Just keep him off screen. I know he has his fans but even as a kid I couldn't get over how cheesy he was. And the Nick Cage movies didn't help his image. I only recently watched Ghost Rider 2 (since my buddies and I were in the mood for a bad movie to riff on) and man... what an awful flick. Written by one of the writers on BvS. No shock there.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

A thing that I'm curious about is that if the third Wolverine film really is Hugh Jackman's final role as Wolverine, is it possible for Marvel to get the rights back for the character? Fox seems to be able to make X-Men movies without him.

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

A thing that I'm curious about is that if the third Wolverine film really is Hugh Jackman's final role as Wolverine, is it possible for Marvel to get the rights back for the character? Fox seems to be able to make X-Men movies without him.

Maybe they can work out a deal like Sony did with Spidey. But Logan on his own seems out of place without the X-Men universe.

Also, I have a feeling we'll see Jackman as Wolverine one more time. There was just too much teasing it in Deadpool, and given the movies' massive success, and the friendship between Jackman and Reynolds, I'm sure he'll pop by even if just for a cameo.

[NinjaPug]

Unless they recast the characters I think it would be too difficult for Marvel and Fox to work out a deal like they did with Sony for Spider-Man. Best bet would be for them to work out a deal for F4 (mainly for the use of their villains) but I'm not even sure if that could work since Constantin Films technically owns the film rights.

[CyberCubed]

Hugh Jackman has said he wanted to see Wolverine with the Avengers. Who knows if that'd happen though.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Hugh Jackman has said he wanted to see Wolverine with the Avengers. Who knows if that'd happen though.

Andrew Garfield also said he wanted to play in the Avengers sandbox. Didn't happen.

[sdp]

I don't think they will cut a deal with Fox for F4, I think Fox will likely just let the rights lapse this time. If it's not working out a business isn't going to be holding a property just because its "marvel". Now the X-Men I don't see them stopping that for a long time. However I do think there's a chance of having "wolverine" in a way in the MCU. I have a feeling after Hugh Jackman is done with Fox that he'll get a cameo in an Avengers movie, of course it'll just be him and not "wolverine" but since he played that character everyone will get the reference, that's something I see happening.

As for the other comment, Iron Man may have been a C-lister before his movie but he'll always be an A-lister from now on.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Hugh Jackman has said he wanted to see Wolverine with the Avengers. Who knows if that'd happen though.

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Andrew Garfield also said he wanted to play in the Avengers sandbox. Didn't happen.

Yeah, actors' wants are pretty irrelevant.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Krutch

Also, I have a feeling we'll see Jackman as Wolverine one more time. There was just too much teasing it in Deadpool, and given the movies' massive success, and the friendship between Jackman and Reynolds, I'm sure he'll pop by even if just for a cameo.

I'd bet the farm we'll see him three more times. Wolverine 3, in a small part in Apocalypse, and of course some kind of cameo in Deadpool 2... that movie made more money than any X-Men movie ever (rightly so, they all mostly suck) and Jackman was hugely alluded to in it.