China - July 2nd.

[vicsavage]

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

Did anyone watch 'Need for Speed' in 2014? Well, the Chinese did, so much so that a sequel is being made just for China. If the Chinese love terrible American movies, just think of how awful Chinese movies must be.

China likes American CGI explosion fests because it's the one thing their film industry hasn't necessarily been able to do themselves. Comedies, dramas, those sorts of things they can do. Superhero movies not so much.

[CyberCubed]

When foreign countries get American films, are they still in english with subtitles on the bottom? Or do they dub over the english voices with their own language voices?

I was always curious about this. When Star Wars Episode 7 opened in Japan did the Asian countries hear the actors in english, or were they dubbed in with Japanese voices?

[marcelangelo]

That depends on the country s dubbing industry so to say...there are countries That dubb american/foureign films (germany for example) , others dont (croatia to my experience and knowledge)

[IndigoErth]

To put that in the context of last year’s undisputed global hit: in China, Warcraft made more in five days than Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens did in its entire theatrical run ($124 million).

That is nuts. I knew they had a lot of players, but wow. (Or should that be WoW.) I used to have more interest in that film, when I was playing, but it took them so darn long to actually make the thing that I kind of lost most interest after I had to stop playing for the time being. (Will be sure to catch it via cable though.) Really wasn't sure how that would go over since they kind of missed the opportunity to do it at the height of the game's popularity, but I guess that is still going strong in China.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

When foreign countries get American films, are they still in english with subtitles on the bottom? Or do they dub over the english voices with their own language voices?

I think many do dub it. Haven't looked much this time, but I know the first has many trailers in other languages as it was.

Wasn't there a country recently that had a premier or other TMNT 2 thing with their own dubbed over voice actors in attendance? I saw something about that, can't remember if it was something mentioned here or just some random thing I ran across elsewhere.

My question is... do they ever change the dialogue? If China isn't fond of Japan, did they tone that down for China for 2014?

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I like to believe there are still good in people, even if there are few. For example:



Japan actually borrowed stuff from China like their locographic chinese characters for writing and to make up their own hiragana and katakana. Dispute is just petty, imagine the stuff they could do together.

It's not really all that petty. It's scars from when Japan were absolute monsters around and during World War II. It's like a large-scale, more horrific version of a bully in high school who made a kid's life absolutely miserable every day... even if the bully turned his life around as an adult and tries to make amends, the hurt is still there.

Not that I'm saying that they shouldn't find a way to bury the hatchet and establish unity... it's just understandable why it's there. South Korea has similar feelings toward Japan.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

The only Japanese component left in PDMT is Brian Tee, and he's only half; his mom is Korean.

You forgot Brittany Ishibashi being of Japanese descent.

[vicsavage]

Originally Posted by Xav

You forgot Brittany Ishibashi being of Japanese descent.

Maybe China will cut her 2 minutes of screen time.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Xav

You forgot Brittany Ishibashi being of Japanese descent.

In her 4 seconds of screen time? Negligible.

[Commenter 42]

I think we should start a pool...

I gots a bad feeling 'bout this.

[IndigoErth]

Come on, at the very least, there needs to be a third just so we have something to bicker about. After 2+ years of it, you can't just quit that cold turkey.



I doubt China will pull off a miracle for it. Unless they're in a serious movie seeing mood at the moment? But if it did and that made it continue... just don't slack on the portrayal of those Turtles though... and then apply that effort everywhere else that lagged in the 2nd.

Here's a thought - don't be so hasty to fly through writing and start production, take a little more time, do it well. Read through it 10k times, weed out the stupid stuff and smooth out the rough patches; get second, third, fourth, fifth...tenth opinions... Get fan opinions. Feed a few well knowledgeable fans separate selected segments with a NDA. Let them say "this part is stupid, don't do it."

God, imagine if somehow a third happened, was a full turn around (through some kind of magic I suppose) and saved its own ass. *sigh* One can dream, I guess.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Yeah, we've talked it to death, and the consensus is that TMNT 2 is dead in the water, and nothing will save it....

Then this happened

Excerpt:



So, with Viacom getting a portion of it's production money from China, and the well known firewall between them and us potentially keeping DL's on the DL...

Is the real measure of PDMT2:OOTS:MBITD still to come?

is July 2nd the real D day?

More ignorance. Again, the studio makes very, very little % off of overseas box office.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

More ignorance. Again, the studio makes very, very little % off of overseas box office.

Nah, ignorance is thinking China isn't important.

[ProactiveMan]

Wasn’t there a bunch of Chinese money in OOTS? I definitely saw the Alibaba logo at the start, and another company ident (the one with the ghost deer) that I recognise as Chinese.

Warcraft was made by Legendary wasn’t it? Legendary are either partly or wholly owned by Wanda, which is a Chinese investment company, of which the Chinese government is probably a major stakeholder. Maybe not Wanda specifically, but another company China Media Capital have been known to benefit from preferential treatment in terms of release dates and advertising. Wanda own a chain of cinemas, so it stands to reason that anything they’ve invested in will get a big push.

[d_osborn]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

More ignorance. Again, the studio makes very, very little % off of overseas box office.

If it does huge numbers in China, then Chinese companies will front the production costs. Much like TMNT2. I don't see it happening, but it's possible.

Also, I miss the old wife beater avatar.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by ProactiveMan

Wasn’t there a bunch of Chinese money in OOTS? I definitely saw the Alibaba logo at the start, and another company ident (the one with the ghost deer) that I recognise as Chinese.

I do recall Alibaba, plus one or two more, but don't remember what. I'm curious what the promoting is like in China vs the rest of us.



It's happened, even the American film industry is largely outsourcing their audience film interest...

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by d_osborn

If it does huge numbers in China, then Chinese companies will front the production costs. Much like TMNT2. I don't see it happening, but it's possible.

Also, I miss the old wife beater avatar.

A man who actually knows. Nice.

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by d_osborn

If it does huge numbers in China, then Chinese companies will front the production costs. Much like TMNT2. I don't see it happening, but it's possible.

Also, I miss the old wife beater avatar.

Are you saying if OotS does well in China that Chinese companies will front the production costs for a 3rd movie?

[d_osborn]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Are you saying if OotS does well in China that Chinese companies will front the production costs for a 3rd movie?

I personally don't see it happening. If the bean counters see that the opportunity for profit is there, then yeah... I'm sure they'll figure out something.

The name of the game is bringing in the dough!

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by vicsavage

China likes American CGI explosion fests because it's the one thing their film industry hasn't necessarily been able to do themselves. Comedies, dramas, those sorts of things they can do. Superhero movies not so much.

How do you explain this, hotshot?

[IndigoErth]

On the subject of China (and my own question of how it's being promoted there), I saw this article:

https://thenanfang.com/hollywood-mar...tic-audiences/

Hollywood Marketing Adopts “Chinese Characteristics” To Cater To Domestic Audiences
Movie poster uses Chinese nostalgia


Charles Liu, June 6, 2016 11:54am

The Chinese box office has become an incredibly lucrative market for the few hollywood blockbusters lucky enough to screen in the country. Accordingly, the big studios will do pretty much anything to capitalize on the market. Case in point, the recently released Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows.

Four of the film’s promotional posters depict characters from the film in an ancient Chinese setting. And while they appear to be authentically made in the style of Chinese watercolors, they contain a number of anachronisms that give them a goofy charm.

Ninja turtles Leonardo, Rafael, Michelangelo and Donatello are depicted sporting flowing Chinese robes. However, they are also eating pizza, riding skateboards, and playing electric instruments (albeit a traditional Chinese pipa).

The biggest Chinese reference is a poster depicting the ninja turtles as the four main characters from the beloved Journey to the West. Elements of both “franchises” fuse together to show green-skinned Tripikata riding a white horse while eating a pizza.

It’s a jarring mash-up, but it already seems to be working. Chinese media are reporting that the promotional material demonstrates how these “Western characters” (who are themselves partly based upon Japanese folklore) have adopted Chinese characteristics.

Spoiler:

Btw... I went looking for larger versions and I don't know if it's a fan or what in 'April's' lap in that one poster, but there is an image of Usagi on it. (Although some other aspect of her looks... odd to me, but maybe I'm just seeing things...)


Edit: Bigger versions I found and saved. Couldn't find a big one with them making pizza.
http://i.imgur.com/hHlyWfV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WlBD1BW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zaRV57W.jpg