Fan-Edits - Page 2

*Andrew NDB* · 08-19-2016, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Wow! So basically like TMNT Image Conclusion, but officially corporately endorsed?

Yep, yep. But not really a "conclusion" of anything as much as just a sideways extension piece in this case.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 08-19-2016, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yep, yep. But not really a "conclusion" of anything as much as just a sideways extension piece in this case.

Very cool. Ever think of doing something Star Trek related?

*Andrew NDB* · 08-19-2016, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Very cool. Ever think of doing something Star Trek related?

I'd love to film a 29th Century Starfleet movie with the Temporal Division fixing the timeline. But no, not really. Just original stuff from now on, barring fun little side things that don't require much.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 08-19-2016, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I'd love to film a 29th Century Starfleet movie with the Temporal Division fixing the timeline. But no, not really. Just original stuff from now on, barring fun little side things that don't require much.

Fixing the timeline in general or fixing the timeline to prevent/undo the Abrams movies?

*Andrew NDB* · 08-19-2016, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Fixing the timeline in general or fixing the timeline to prevent/undo the Abrams movies?

The latter. F that timeline.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 08-19-2016, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The latter. F that timeline.

You and me both...

*Jephael* · 08-19-2016, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Fan-Edits are just versions of movies where the fans take out the parts they hate, and they are pretty much illegal, it's infringing on copyright.

Couldn't have said it better myself. If you don't like what filmmakers or TV writers are doing with your beloved childhood characters, either
1. Write your own stories about them (i.e. fan fiction/fan films/fan comics) or
2. Come up with your own original characters and be sure to make some ground rules for what can and cannot be done with them.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 08-19-2016, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Are there any? I don't mean AMV's or joke dubs, I mean versions of the film(s) with certain scenes removed that either waste time, break the flow, have a terrible joke, plot holes, or generally distract from the turtles themselves. I'd really love to make one myself, to get rid of the crude humor, remove as much of the human nonsense as possible without hurting the plot, & alter some of the moments where the laws of physics are greatly abused.

I think they could be a lot more enjoyable on a whole this way, maybe even with the two being cut together into one. Thoughts?

I think when you suggest cutting the two into one, there's a good idea ready to happen. I haven't seen TMNT2:OOTS yet, so I'm not sure about

You still can't do anything about the general size and design (Teenage Mutant Hulking Turtles) but you could remove most of Casey and April, and hopefully as much as possible of Vern. Maybe insert the first movie's Shredder stuff between the sequel's Shredder breakout and the Krang showdown?

Basic flow in my mind would be:

Bebop and Rocksteady break Shredder out of custody
Turtles and April meet in the subway, April goes to Sachs/Shredder, who follows her to the sewers
Shredder tracks down the Turtles, captures them, Raph rescues his bros
They fight, the Turtles escape down the mountain
Shredder and Stockman make Bebop and Rocksteady mutants
All the Bebop/Rocksteady stuff
Krang showdown on the roof
Cut in the final Shredder rooftop fight, so Shredder doesn't go out like a punk to Krang.

Congratulations... we combined two bad movies into one hopefully slightly less bad movie?

*Galactus* · 08-19-2016, 09:47 PM

I find it odd that someone can endorse fan fiction and yet be down on fan edits? Surely fan edits are just a sub section of fan fiction.

A text story or a comic published or otherwise is still infringing on copyright, you're taking still taking someone else's property. Now a big company is not going to bother pursuing people who do fan fiction because it isn't worth the trouble and would foster bad feelings with the fans but in principal it's the same.

As for the question at hand. You may get something passable out of the 2014 movie but Out of the Shadows is a lost cause. Sure you can cut the stupidest elements but what really tanks the movie is what is not there.

Even if you were a big Fred Wolf fan who wanted the movie to be a big cartoon or even a huge fan of Michael Bay movies and advocate turning your brain off and enjoying the big action scenes the movie doesn't have enough for either audience. At some point you wanted to see the turtles fight the Foot, have a battle with Bebop and Rocksteady that lasted more that a few seconds, have Shredder actually do something, have the battle with Krang be more than just dodging lasers. These aspects aren't easily fixed with fan-edits.

robb0226 · 08-20-2016, 09:46 AM

The whole time I was watching the second movie I was thinking this exact idea. I thought both movies were alright but perhaps that they could both be made into 1 good movie. Mixing the plots into 1 story, cutting out the crap, I think it could work.

thundermaster612 · 08-20-2016, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I've been pretty big into making fan-edits in my day... this one wouldn't be worth the time or the effort. And I'm a guy considering working on a NT:TNM edit.

Do it. Make the NT:TNM edit.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 08-20-2016, 11:23 AM

The question is, who would want to become so grossly intimate enough with the films to even MAKE a fan edit? Making one that splices the two films together requires learning every shot, every line, etc. of both.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 08-20-2016, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

The question is, who would want to become so grossly intimate enough with the films to even MAKE a fan edit? Making one that splices the two films together requires learning every shot, every line, etc. of both.

That is a very good, very frightening, point. Shivers!

Ramboraph4life aka Matt · 08-20-2016, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

I find it odd that someone can endorse fan fiction and yet be down on fan edits? Surely fan edits are just a sub section of fan fiction.

I definitely agree with that. Now, if you're SELLING them to make a profit (or try to), that's a different matter.

But I've done fan edits for fun and for my own enjoyment (whether it be editing the workprint & theatrical versions to make my own version of the NC-17 cut of Hard Target, or joining all 3 Evil Dead films into one long flick, or a mix of the theatrical and unrated versions of Live Free or Die Hard, and so forth). They are entertaining, challenging, and satisfying to do.

Granted, usually one does it for films they love and want to 'tweak stuff' for their own personal enjoyment...

But I think it would be interesting to see someone take a crack of it. It's not like they would make it WORSE...

It'd be a challenge, and the more creative people do some Very Interesting things with them (for example, one called Jaws: The Sharksploitation Version).

Maybe someone will do an 'over the top/CGI blood' exploitation fan edit. Or a 'grindhouse' fan edit. Or a total goof/parody of it ala a Naked Gun/Hot Shot Part Deux edit of it. Who knows...but I would be extremely intrigued if anyone does happen to do it.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 08-21-2016, 08:57 AM

I enjoy dabbling in fan edits too.
My magnum opus is combining nearly all the "Justice League Unlimited" episodes in the Cadmus story arc into one long, awesome film.

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Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

Maybe someone will do an 'over the top/CGI blood' exploitation fan edit. Or a 'grindhouse' fan edit. Or a total goof/parody of it ala a Naked Gun/Hot Shot Part Deux edit of it. Who knows...but I would be extremely intrigued if anyone does happen to do it.

I like this idea! Instead of an honest attempt at "fixing" the films, someone should try to make them worse, but in a humorous way, not an annoying one.

*ZariusTwo* · 08-28-2016, 10:10 AM

I've done a few FW TMNT edits and have thought about doing a trim for the 2014 movie, but never pushed hard enough, and now my movie maker is on the fritz presently so I've had to shelf a lot of projects.

I'd like to try it though. I did use music from OOTS with 2014 movie footage as a test.

*Chris* · 08-28-2016, 07:26 PM

This thread has seriously made me wonder if you could mash up the two into one, cut all the origin stuff and treat it as a loose sequel to the first 4 movies.

Sure you'd have to ignore stuff like the different Turtle designs, different voices for Leo, different actors for Shredder and Karai, but I think it could actually be done. Still probably wouldn't be good but maybe a better whole than the 2 parts.

If I was any good at video editing I might consider it but I wouldn't even know where to start!

*Powder* · 08-28-2016, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

This thread has seriously made me wonder if you could mash up the two into one, cut all the origin stuff and treat it as a loose sequel to the first 4 movies.

*Chris* · 08-28-2016, 07:35 PM

Yeah that idea probably deserved that response

The-Shredder · 09-03-2016, 07:23 PM

Someone attempted to do a mashup with the 4Kids series and The Next Mutation. It actually works pretty well here.

08-19-2016, 09:47 PM	#29
Galactus Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,009	I find it odd that someone can endorse fan fiction and yet be down on fan edits? Surely fan edits are just a sub section of fan fiction. A text story or a comic published or otherwise is still infringing on copyright, you're taking still taking someone else's property. Now a big company is not going to bother pursuing people who do fan fiction because it isn't worth the trouble and would foster bad feelings with the fans but in principal it's the same. As for the question at hand. You may get something passable out of the 2014 movie but Out of the Shadows is a lost cause. Sure you can cut the stupidest elements but what really tanks the movie is what is not there. Even if you were a big Fred Wolf fan who wanted the movie to be a big cartoon or even a huge fan of Michael Bay movies and advocate turning your brain off and enjoying the big action scenes the movie doesn't have enough for either audience. At some point you wanted to see the turtles fight the Foot, have a battle with Bebop and Rocksteady that lasted more that a few seconds, have Shredder actually do something, have the battle with Krang be more than just dodging lasers. These aspects aren't easily fixed with fan-edits. Last edited by Galactus; 08-20-2016 at 11:01 AM.

08-20-2016, 09:46 AM	#30
robb0226 Random Punk Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Michigan Posts: 44	The whole time I was watching the second movie I was thinking this exact idea. I thought both movies were alright but perhaps that they could both be made into 1 good movie. Mixing the plots into 1 story, cutting out the crap, I think it could work. __________________ My fan-made game, TMNT RPG: https://rpgmaker.net/games/9069/ Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4lxYPZ4tjQ Have you ever seen a turtle get down? Slammin' and jammin' to the new swing sound.

08-28-2016, 10:10 AM	#36
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,503	I've done a few FW TMNT edits and have thought about doing a trim for the 2014 movie, but never pushed hard enough, and now my movie maker is on the fritz presently so I've had to shelf a lot of projects. I'd like to try it though. I did use music from OOTS with 2014 movie footage as a test. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

08-20-2016, 11:23 AM	#32
TheSkeletonMan939 A New Day, A New Headache Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Over there Posts: 3,963	The question is, who would want to become so grossly intimate enough with the films to even MAKE a fan edit? Making one that splices the two films together requires learning every shot, every line, etc. of both.

08-28-2016, 07:26 PM	#37
Chris Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,898	This thread has seriously made me wonder if you could mash up the two into one, cut all the origin stuff and treat it as a loose sequel to the first 4 movies. Sure you'd have to ignore stuff like the different Turtle designs, different voices for Leo, different actors for Shredder and Karai, but I think it could actually be done. Still probably wouldn't be good but maybe a better whole than the 2 parts. If I was any good at video editing I might consider it but I wouldn't even know where to start!

08-28-2016, 07:35 PM	#39
Chris Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,898	Yeah that idea probably deserved that response

09-03-2016, 07:23 PM	#40
The-Shredder Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 458	Someone attempted to do a mashup with the 4Kids series and The Next Mutation. It actually works pretty well here.