Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 19: Bat in the Belfry

[snake]

Originally Posted by PApagreg

Well that was meh, April all the suddenly got addicted to the Crystal's power and pretty much became venom, Casey is still annoying(and so is Mikey) and Wingnut and Screwloose became mutants, fantastic.

Is it too much to ask for an episode that doesn't focus on the turtles

You're crazy if you think that Nick would allow an episode without the turtles

[M.O.D.O.K.]

Anyone else notice the 1989 Batman nod with Skullface McGillin?

[Haalix]

Why is every Mikey-centric episode goofy? at least not serious. i love all four of them but now im getting really annoyed with Mikey. Casey level of annoying. how hard is it to make an episode a bit more serious that focuses on Mikey? Or just focus it on all of them.

on the other side, i'm really liking the April part so far. hopefully, but probably not, she ends up facing the turtles in the finale or something in battle, or she accidently hurts one of them because of the crystel

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by snake

You're crazy if you think that Nick would allow an episode without the turtles

If Nick can have an episode without Lincoln Loud as the focus and episodes focusing on Zuko I think we can have an episode focusing on the turtles

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by PApagreg

Well that was meh, April all the suddenly got addicted to the Crystal's power and pretty much became venom, Casey is still annoying(and so is Mikey) and Wingnut and Screwloose became mutants, fantastic.

Is it too much to ask for an episode that doesn't focus on the turtles

It wasn't suddenly. April's had that crystal for a long time now and we started seeing the dark side of her since the episode City at War. This is the 1st episode that April didn't want to take it off or give it to someone else and you could see that it was making her addict and her dark side is getting worse

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by Haalix

Why is every Mikey-centric episode goofy? at least not serious. i love all four of them but now im getting really annoyed with Mikey. Casey level of annoying. how hard is it to make an episode a bit more serious that focuses on Mikey? Or just focus it on all of them.

They did, they're called It Came From the Depths and Into Dimension X!. Only one thing: they're both from nearly three seasons/two seasons ago.

[snake]

Originally Posted by PApagreg

If Nick can have an episode without Lincoln Loud as the focus and episodes focusing on Zuko I think we can have an episode focusing on the turtles

ATLA was at the peak of it's popularity and WAY more focused on story that the Zuko only episodes were almost needed. Nick realized they had something that could be enjoyed by both kids and adults with ATLA and took risks. Don't even compare it with 2k12.

[Chaotix12345]

Really cool episode. I like how they played up Wingnut and Screwloose's Batman element while still maintaining their kinda berserk nature at the end with the crystal. It's also just really nice to finally see them portrayed as heroes in animation. Really liked the little Huanu namedrop as well. Little disappointed that they couldn't stick around, but hey, it's not like they're completely barred from reappearing in the future. Interested to see where this April plot is going...

Also, I couldn't help but think that the whole "Wingnut and Screwloose turn into evil nutcases while everyone around them reminds them that they were heroes in the comics" was a commentary on how the '87 show turned them into generic alien invader villains.

Wonder which version of them we'll see in toy form: good or evil? It'd be great to get both, but I'm not sure they'd dedicate two whole figures to both of them. (At the very least, it'll be nice to see a full figure of Screwloose that's articulated.)

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

It wasn't suddenly. April's had that crystal for a long time now and we started seeing the dark side of her since the episode City at War. This is the 1st episode that April didn't want to take it off or give it to someone else and you could see that it was making her addict and her dark side is getting worse

Except that her dark side was brought out for her need for power but now after using the crystal she is flat out addicted, give Spiderman some credit it took him a few episodes to be addicted to the symboite with April its one episode and she turned into Gollum

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by Haalix

Why is every Mikey-centric episode goofy? at least not serious. i love all four of them but now im getting really annoyed with Mikey. Casey level of annoying. how hard is it to make an episode a bit more serious that focuses on Mikey? Or just focus it on all of them.

on the other side, i'm really liking the April part so far. hopefully, but probably not, she ends up facing the turtles in the finale or something in battle, or she accidently hurts one of them because of the crystel

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

They did, they're called It Came From the Depths and Into Dimension X!. Only one thing: they're both from nearly three seasons/two seasons ago.

New Friend, Old Enemy is a serious Mikey episode aswell.

I love to have more serious Mikey episodes too, but as he's a young kids favorite character, I can't see it happening.

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by snake

ATLA was at the peak of it's popularity and WAY more focused on story that the Zuko only episodes were almost needed. Nick realized they had something that could be enjoyed by both kids and adults with ATLA and took risks. Don't even compare it with 2k12.

Okay lets compare it to one thats not on ATLA level, Teen Titans had episodes that focused on other characters and TMNT 2k3 had a lot of episode focusing on the supporting characters or the villians of the series

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by PApagreg

Except that her dark side was brought out for her need for power but now after using the crystal she is flat out addicted, give Spiderman some credit it took him a few episodes to be addicted to the symboite with April its one episode and she turned into Gollum

Wow your an idiot, how can you compare Spiderman to April.

Spiderman is a main character, April is not and she's not in every episode. If she was a main character and in every single episode, then her addiction would be brought up in every episode.

[snake]

Originally Posted by Chaotix12345

Really cool episode. I like how they played up Wingnut and Screwloose's Batman element while still maintaining their kinda berserk nature at the end with the crystal. It's also just really nice to finally see them portrayed as heroes in animation. Really liked the little Huanu namedrop as well. Little disappointed that they couldn't stick around, but hey, it's not like they're completely barred from reappearing in the future. Interested to see where this April plot is going...

Also, I couldn't help but think that the whole "Wingnut and Screwloose turn into evil nutcases while everyone around them reminds them that they were heroes in the comics" was a commentary on how the '87 show turned them into generic alien invader villains.

Wonder which version of them we'll see in toy form: good or evil? It'd be great to get both, but I'm not sure they'd dedicate two whole figures to both of them. (At the very least, it'll be nice to see a full figure of Screwloose that's articulated.)

I wish we'd get figures for W/S but I doubt it. Playmates has really been sucking with their character selection lately. I'm gonna assume, that if anything, we'll get the evil versions. Alternate heads would be the way to go, but I can't see that happening either.

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

New Friend, Old Enemy is a serious Mikey episode aswell.

I love to have more serious Mikey episodes too, but as he's a young kids favorite character, I can't see it happening.

Completely forgot about that one! Then again, it did felt rushed.

Mikey can't have serious episodes? False. Look at some of the other episodes from the seasons: Wrath of Tiger Claw, The Manhattan Project, Parastica (even if that episode I didn't fully like), debatable on Attack of the Mega Shredder!, etc. You know what they've got in common? (well, first two examples weren't centered on him, but regardless) Rather serious episodes with a serious Mikey; even with his goofy moments from those episodes in terms of dialogue, he makes up for it with a supporting and loving fashion. He motivates his family, shows immense creativity, he's practically the little kid who keeps trucking and makes us smile.

Write him good, Mikey shines. Write him wrong, you get stuff like The Croaking. It's frustrating, Raph shouldn't always be reduced to anger, Leo shouldn't be primarily the guy taking the heavy hits all the time, Mikey shouldn't 90% of the time be goofy.

Originally Posted by Haalix

shame i forgot about those, but you're right. I hope they'll make more this season

Ah, fair enough, sorry it wasn't too specific. I agree either way.

(Will watch the episode later on)

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Wow your an idiot, how can you compare Spiderman to April.

Spiderman is a main character, April is not and she's not in every episode. If she was a main character and in every single episode, then her addiction would be brought up in every episode.

You are so stupid you know that right, I was comparing how both Spiderman and April got addicted to power them being main or supporting is irrelevant. Also April is a main character

Also "you're"

[Haalix]

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

They did, they're called It Came From the Depths and Into Dimension X!. Only one thing: they're both from nearly three seasons/two seasons ago.

shame i forgot about those, but you're right. I hope they'll make more this season

[Vicky82]

Eugene Son wrote this episode, so that's why it wasn't a serious Mikey episode.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by PApagreg

You are so stupid you know that right, I was comparing how both Spiderman and April got addicted to power them being main or supporting is irrelevant. Also April is a main character

Also "you're"

Actually she's not, she's a minor character, it's the same with Casey too. If April was a main character, then she would be in every single episode.

[Haalix]

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

Completely forgot about that one! Then again, it did felt rushed.

Mikey can't have serious episodes? False. Look at some of the other episodes from the seasons: Wrath of Tiger Claw, The Manhattan Project, Parastica (even if that episode I didn't fully like), debatable on Attack of the Mega Shredder!, etc. You know what they've got in common? Rather serious episodes with a serious Mikey; even with his goofy moments from those episodes in terms of dialogue, he makes up for it with a supporting and loving fashion. He motivates his family, shows immense creativity, he's practically the little kid who keeps trucking and makes us smile.

Write him good, Mikey shines. Write him wrong, you get stuff like The Croaking. It's frustrating, Raph shouldn't always be reduced to anger, Leo shouldn't be primarily the guy taking the heavy hits all the time, Mikey shouldn't 90% of the time be goofy.


Ah, fair enough, sorry it wasn't too specific. I agree either way.

(Will watch the episode later on)

I take it back, he's had several in previous season... just not this season, and that's the problem. it's a shame, Mikey has huge potential. But then again, so do the others and that isn't fully explored either.

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Wow your an idiot

Gets me every single time