How long does Viacom own the rights for? - Page 2

*ToTheNines* · 09-12-2016, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

That would be good. Though the... *erm*... kinds of vocal TMNT fans there are out there in the interwebs are really not the ones they should be listening to.

You mean those who want to see the proverbial turd polished?

*Andrew NDB* · 09-12-2016, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

You mean those who want to see the proverbial turd polished?

That, or worse.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 09-12-2016, 03:54 PM

The big factor here is merchandise. As long as the merchandise is selling well, turtles will not be mothballed. Playmates is a much bigger factor in this than a lot of you pretend, it's not all ratings or box office numbers, it's the merchandise sales that will determine the fate of all non-IDW TMNT media. And with the exception of a few clothing line items, merchandise sales are doing well all across the board.

Guys, take it from somebody who has worked in retail; the youngest generation of fans has embraced the pizza-chomping, multicolored masked heroes as they appear in the nick show. The imagined freeze and quiet time, followed by a red-masked mirage reboot so many dream of, is not happening- not now, not ever. TMNT might receive a makeover, but it's not going away in the next few years.

*plastroncafe* · 09-12-2016, 03:56 PM

Not now, sure. Of course not not.
Not ever? How many various reboots of Batman have their been?

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 09-12-2016, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Not now, sure. Of course not not.
Not ever? How many various reboots of Batman have their been?

It's what's going to be perpetuated. When this generation grows up, what are they going to be nostalgic for? The nick show. When they are making their generations cartoons and media, where are they going to look for their inspiration? The nick show. The OT was goofy and stupid, but the parts casual fans thought were 'cool' have been recycled into the much higher quality incarnations of IDW and the Nick show.

The OT has achieved it's immortality by the elements it has passed on to the newest versions of TMNT. Those elements will go on into every incarnation that follows. Multicolored masked, bebop and rocksteady, technodromes and krangs- these things are here to stay.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 09-12-2016, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

It's what's going to be perpetuated. When this generation grows up, what are they going to be nostalgic for? The nick show. When they are making their generations cartoons and media, where are they going to look for their inspiration? The nick show. The OT was goofy and stupid, but the parts casual fans thought were 'cool' have been recycled into the much higher quality incarnations of IDW and the Nick show.

The OT has achieved it's immortality by the elements it has passed on to the newest versions of TMNT. Those elements will go on into every incarnation that follows. Multicolored masked, bebop and rocksteady, technodromes and krangs- these things are here to stay.

Believe me, we know. I think only Andrew and a few others have issues with that.

But TMNT is headed for another snooze... the Nick toys are NOT selling like they were a couple of years ago. We're fast approaching the "Fast Forward / Back to the Sewers" era of Nick TMNT.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 09-12-2016, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Believe me, we know. I think only Andrew and a few others have issues with that.

But TMNT is headed for another snooze... the Nick toys are NOT selling like they were a couple of years ago. We're fast approaching the "Fast Forward / Back to the Sewers" era of Nick TMNT.

This... I agree with. The usagi crossover and Bebop and rocksteady: most wanted lines are when you get to the phase where you're desperately trying to keep things fresh, and keeps sales growing instead of slowly declining. The nick show and other media products of this 'gen' of turtles probably has 1-3 more years in it, playmates will inject money into Nick projects to keep TMNT on life support as it declines. I just hope IDW survives.

*CyberCubed* · 09-12-2016, 04:09 PM

The Usagi crossover isn't confirmed. If he really was going to appear in Nick we'd have a huge press release.

*plastroncafe* · 09-12-2016, 04:09 PM

What I wouldn't give for an animated show that didn't cater to a toy company...

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 09-12-2016, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The Usagi crossover isn't confirmed. If he really was going to appear in Nick we'd have a huge press release.

I was talking about the toy lines, not the show.

*ToTheNines* · 09-12-2016, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The Usagi crossover isn't confirmed. If he really was going to appear in Nick we'd have a huge press release.

Just like when they had those "huge press releases" the last 5 times Usagi and TMNT crossed over? **** off.

*CyberCubed* · 09-12-2016, 04:35 PM

What does what 4kids did have anything to do with the way Nick runs things? Nick always makes big press releases of upcoming stuff in the cartoon. We've seen this the last 3 years.

*Bry* · 09-12-2016, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat

Kinda doubt Nick would let TMNT go through a dark age. Its been consistently popular for decades and its one of the biggest franchises they own next to Spongebob I guess.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Not an extended one. But one nonetheless. Which isn't to say it would be in entirety... I doubt they would yank IDW's deal away just to further a clandestine ice age, or deny the occasional video game or T-shirt license, things of that nature.

TMNT has a habit of going "on ice" for a few years in-between iterations/revivals anyway. That's just part of the cycle at this point. Toys go off the shelves for a short while, then they can make a big launch of whatever the next line is to the new generation. It's worked out pretty well for them so far.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 09-12-2016, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

This... I agree with. The usagi crossover and Bebop and rocksteady: most wanted lines are when you get to the phase where you're desperately trying to keep things fresh, and keeps sales growing instead of slowly declining. The nick show and other media products of this 'gen' of turtles probably has 1-3 more years in it, playmates will inject money into Nick projects to keep TMNT on life support as it declines. I just hope IDW survives.

The fact that even pessimistic people on here don't seem worried about IDW being affected gives me a little reassurance that we'll be okay.

*CyberCubed* · 09-12-2016, 07:59 PM

IDW TMNT started in 2011, we're now in 2016. Its been 6 years, I can easily see it lasting a decade or more.

*ToTheNines* · 09-12-2016, 08:01 PM

That's 5 years.

*Powder* · 09-12-2016, 08:04 PM

Time passes differently inside of a Cybercube.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 09-12-2016, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

That's 5 years.

If you count 2011...

1. 2011
2. 2012
3. 2013
4. 2014
5. 2015
6. 2016

*ToTheNines* · 09-12-2016, 08:17 PM

But it started in August 2011. 5 years 1 month.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 09-12-2016, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

But it started in August 2011. 5 years 1 month.

Ah. Then yeah, five years.

09-12-2016, 03:54 PM	#23
Panda_Kahn_fan Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,715	The big factor here is merchandise. As long as the merchandise is selling well, turtles will not be mothballed. Playmates is a much bigger factor in this than a lot of you pretend, it's not all ratings or box office numbers, it's the merchandise sales that will determine the fate of all non-IDW TMNT media. And with the exception of a few clothing line items, merchandise sales are doing well all across the board. Guys, take it from somebody who has worked in retail; the youngest generation of fans has embraced the pizza-chomping, multicolored masked heroes as they appear in the nick show. The imagined freeze and quiet time, followed by a red-masked mirage reboot so many dream of, is not happening- not now, not ever. TMNT might receive a makeover, but it's not going away in the next few years. __________________ My TMNT fanfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1266176...n-a-Half-Shell IDW is the best version of TMNT If they make a TMNT reboot movie retelling the shredder battle/origin, I won't buy a ticket.

09-12-2016, 04:09 PM	#28
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	The Usagi crossover isn't confirmed. If he really was going to appear in Nick we'd have a huge press release.

09-12-2016, 04:35 PM	#32
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	What does what 4kids did have anything to do with the way Nick runs things? Nick always makes big press releases of upcoming stuff in the cartoon. We've seen this the last 3 years.

09-12-2016, 07:59 PM	#35
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	IDW TMNT started in 2011, we're now in 2016. Its been 6 years, I can easily see it lasting a decade or more.

09-12-2016, 08:01 PM	#36
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,360	That's 5 years.

09-12-2016, 08:04 PM	#37
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,955	Time passes differently inside of a Cybercube.

09-12-2016, 08:17 PM	#39
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,360	But it started in August 2011. 5 years 1 month.