New Neca Bootlegs

[shredmiester]

Originally Posted by go_ninja84

everyone who is calling these bootlegs, could i suggest maybe a bunch of people from China went to comic con and bought out most of their sets to sell at a discount to sell more units?

IDK im just speculating but im happy i got my set from comic con

Not impossible but it says around 3000 sets available

[Powder]

Originally Posted by go_ninja84

everyone who is calling these bootlegs, could i suggest maybe a bunch of people from China went to comic con and bought out most of their sets to sell at a discount to sell more units?

IDK im just speculating but im happy i got my set from comic con

I hope you're not serious.

[EddieNES]

They are bootlegs.

Regardless of quality, these aren't verified by Neca. They are made by someone else and have nothing to do with Neca. Everyone's been calling the mirage turtles bootlegs for years, but why not these?

I just think people don't want to admit they have bootlegs over the official release. If these weren't bought at comic con, they are bootlegged turtles. No matter how you slice it.

Just my opinion. I like bootlegs.

[mikeyatemypizza]

Originally Posted by Powder

I hope you're not serious.

Made me laugh. Can you imagine. The price of the cab to the airport alone lol.

[oldmanwinters]

I'll admit, it's really frustrating to see so many bootlegs (quality notwithstanding) being listed on ebay as genuine NECA products. I think NECA should look into some kind of authentication program to protect their brand and help distinguish their stuff from the fakes.

[Powder]

Do other NECA products get the same post-retail reproductions, or is it just the TMNT stuff?

[sdp]

Is there a place to buy turtles separate? I only want a Donatello..

[shredmiester]

Originally Posted by Powder

Do other NECA products get the same post-retail reproductions, or is it just the TMNT stuff?

Yeah some of their other figures do too and they're pretty horrendous actually.

Originally Posted by sdp

Is there a place to buy turtles separate? I only want a Donatello..

Ebay

[D Piddy 1982]

Originally Posted by EddieNES

They are bootlegs.

Regardless of quality, these aren't verified by Neca. They are made by someone else and have nothing to do with Neca. Everyone's been calling the mirage turtles bootlegs for years, but why not these?

I just think people don't want to admit they have bootlegs over the official release. If these weren't bought at comic con, they are bootlegged turtles. No matter how you slice it.

Just my opinion. I like bootlegs.

Agree 100%. That's what I've been trying to say, just in a more convoluted way with a lot more words!

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I'll admit, it's really frustrating to see so many bootlegs (quality notwithstanding) being listed on ebay as genuine NECA products. I think NECA should look into some kind of authentication program to protect their brand and help distinguish their stuff from the fakes.

This is what I've been thinking. Unfortunately even though this would knock out most bootleggers, a small percentage of them will also try to incorporate the 'authentication' in their unapproved product, and muddy the waters further.

My company makes safety equipment and each product is produced with a bar code. You can visit our website and scan the code and it will tell you date and time of manufacture and what the product should be. Again we have had to do this because of copy products coming in from Asia.

I'd like to think the SDCC sticker is a mark of authentication, but you never know...

[Timmetry]

I wish they would create bootlegs of the mousers with opening mouths. I have two from when April was first released (and 6 regulars) but I would love to get more at a reasonable price. And by reasonable, I mean cheap. I already have some, I'm not going to spend a lot on more.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by EddieNES

They are bootlegs.

Regardless of quality, these aren't verified by Neca.

Sets with SDCC stickers should be a part of the 3000 sets. Or do you have any sources stating otherwise?

Originally Posted by EddieNES

They are made by someone else and have nothing to do with Neca.

Do you have any actual source that the Arcade sets have been counterfeited by a third party?

Originally Posted by EddieNES

Everyone's been calling the mirage turtles bootlegs for years, but why not these?

The Mirage Bootlegs have been verified as bootlegs. Just because one product have a large quantity of imitations, don't mean all of NECA products gets the ecaxt same treatment.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by D Piddy 1982

My company makes safety equipment and each product is produced with a bar code. You can visit our website and scan the code and it will tell you date and time of manufacture and what the product should be. Again we have had to do this because of copy products coming in from Asia.

I'd like to think the SDCC sticker is a mark of authentication, but you never know...

I was also thinking that online authentication would have to be the way to go. Sure bootleggers would just print fake ones and most people would buy them not knowing the difference, but it would go a long way to serving the collector's market.

Speaking of the SDCC stickers... looks like the bootleggers may have finally gotten around to NECA April O'Neil. I was unaware that she had been bootlegged but I've noticed more Chinese sellers stockpiling cases that don't have the SDCC sticker:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-NECA-200...26.m3874.l7936

[EddieNES]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Sets with SDCC stickers should be a part of the 3000 sets. Or do you have any sources stating otherwise?


Do you have any actual source that the Arcade sets have been counterfeited by a third party?



The Mirage Bootlegs have been verified as bootlegs. Just because one product have a large quantity of imitations, don't mean all of NECA products gets the ecaxt same treatment.

I don't need sources, I have common sense.

But if you want to believe a bunch of dudes from China went to the con and stocked up, go ahead. I won't lose sleep over it.

[Candy Kappa]

Basically, you're basing your opinions on nothing then. Good talk...

[EddieNES]

Maybe this will settle it.

Bootlegs by definition. No authorization.

Cry about it.

[EddieNES]

Good talk.

[Candy Kappa]

Oh you got be champ. I too contacted Randy about bootlegs.

So bootlegs as in unauthorized sale of genuine goods exists, which was never really any disputes about. Still no proof of "made by someone else" as you claimed, which would be reproductions like what happened with the Mirage figures.

[TMNachoT]

What if those sets are original figures stolen from the factory?

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by TMNachoT

What if those sets are original figures stolen from the factory?

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

"Bootleg" is a very big and loose term nowadays, from illegal destribution and sale of any goods to counterfeit items. But, when it comes to toys and action figures, it's universally common that bootleg refers to counterfeits/recasts/fake/imitations. Which the NECA Mirage Tube bootlegs are, they are counterfeits. And so goes for the Revoltech Bootlegs, they are cheap imitations..

It still falls under the definition of "Bootleg".

[D Piddy 1982]

Also I would strongly believe that NECA ordered or made or 'whatever' 3,000 sets. These sets would have been delivered to NECA stores or warehouse. Logged onto the NECA system as stock. Shipped out to SDCC & they would have hoped to shift all 3,000 sets in order to make profit.

The above is making me wonder what some people are trying to claim or imply. NECA wouldn't let some of their 3,000 stock (which they invested good money into) just go missing, or go out a side door in the factory. They would expect to receive 3,000 pieces because that's what they ordered. It would flag up straight away if any stock was missing. This is business, not a hobby for NECA.

Which is what makes my spider sense tingle when I see sets for sale from China. Why would a set from San Diego find itself all the way back over in China only to try to be sold on again for hardly any profit?