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Old 11-08-2016, 12:18 PM   #1
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Warner Bros. CEO Confident In Geoff Johns' Vision For The DCEU

In the New York Times' wide-ranging interview with WB CEO Kevin Tsuijhara, topics covered included the pending acquisition of Warner Bros.' parent company Time Warner by AT &T and the financial success of the DCEU in spite of toxic reviews. In regards to the latter, Tsuijhara stated, "Quietly, we’ve been having an amazing year. The narrative, over all, has not reflected that."

Citing the $1.6 billion earned by Suicide Squad and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, WB's top studio executive added, "People overlook our consistency."

But the studio chief isn't satisfied withjust the bottom line. He wants to change the generally negative perception attached to the studio's recent offerings and release films that earn praise from audiences and critics alike. Per The NYT article, "Mr. Tsujihara said he was confident that management changes he has been making (putting a pair of executives, Geoff Johns and Jon Berg, in charge of superhero movies, for instance) will make for more satisfied fans. With any luck, even a critic or two could come around."

He also went on to specifically note his satisfaction with Patty Jenkins' Wonder Woman, which will be the first release under the stewardship of Johns and Berg. "The thing that really makes me confident is that I’ve seen 'Wonder Woman,’ and it’s great."

Prior to Johns and Berg being named co-chairs, the DCEU was a director-driven cinematic universe with Zack Snyder handling much of the coordination.

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Old 11-08-2016, 12:26 PM   #2
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WB is certainly consistent, I'll give them that. They're always satisfied with the lowest acceptable standards.
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:36 PM   #3
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It's pretty clear just like with Nick and TMNT, WB has no idea what to do with these characters, unless the animated teams get ahold of them.


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Old 11-08-2016, 12:41 PM   #4
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It's fun to look back at the Nolan Batman trilogy, realizing now how truly great those movies were (not perfect, mind you, and not even necessarily comic book Batman-esque) had absolutely nothing to do with any facet of WB and are only a tribute to Nolan's own craft.
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:44 PM   #5
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Hopefully Wonder Woman will turn this around... both Suicide Squad and Batman V Superman have had SERIOUS flaws.

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Andrew, what was your take on Man of Steel?
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:48 PM   #6
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Andrew, what was your take on Man of Steel?
I took issue with the way Pa Kent died, I do agree that Superman could have done a little bit more to mitigate the damage to Metropolis and I think it's a little early in the game for Lois to figure out who Superman is... but beyond these issues... I loved it.
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I took issue with the way Pa Kent died, I do agree that Superman could have done a little bit more to mitigate the damage to Metropolis and I think it's a little early in the game for Lois to figure out who Superman is... but beyond these issues... I loved it.
The death of Pa Kent was pretty bad; I can't watch that scene for how stupid it is.

My main issue was Pa Kent and the whole "maybe you should've let those kids drown" point of view. Other than that, I loved it.
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:58 PM   #8
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The whole DC Movie verse is pretty much 'murder' 'depressing' and 'anti hero'.

Where as the TV Verse for the most part with shows like Flash is all brightness, fun, and hope. I have no complaints with flash, but i've given up on the DC movie verse.
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:59 PM   #9
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The death of Pa Kent was pretty bad; I can't watch that scene for how stupid it is.

My main issue was Pa Kent and the whole "maybe you should've let those kids drown" point of view. Other than that, I loved it.
Yeah, that was dumb.
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Old 11-08-2016, 02:08 PM   #10
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It's fun to look back at the Nolan Batman trilogy, realizing now how truly great those movies were (not perfect, mind you, and not even necessarily comic book Batman-esque) had absolutely nothing to do with any facet of WB and are only a tribute to Nolan's own craft.
And in the same amount of time it took WB to produce the Nolan Trilogy, Marvel released Iron Man, The Avengers, and Civil War. Plus... all the other stuff in between.

Losers.
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Old 11-08-2016, 02:12 PM   #11
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And in the same amount of time it took WB to produce the Nolan Trilogy, Marvel released Iron Man, The Avengers, and Civil War. Plus... all the other stuff in between.

Losers.
Actually, they only produced Iron Man through the Avengers during the Nolan trilogy.

I'll take the Nolan trilogy over those any day, even though I own every Phase 1 Marvel movie except Thor (ugh).
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Actually, they only produced Iron Man through the Avengers during the Nolan trilogy.

I'll take the Nolan trilogy over those any day
Me too. I mean, I wouldn't take the entirety of the MCU over the Nolan trilogy, but I'd certainly take it over Iron Man 1 and Avengers.
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Me too. I mean, I wouldn't take the entirety of the MCU over the Nolan trilogy, but I'd certainly take it over Iron Man 1 and Avengers.
Now, Netflix Marvel against the Dark Knight trilogy... THAT'S a hard choice for me to make.
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Actually, they only produced Iron Man through the Avengers during the Nolan trilogy.

I'll take the Nolan trilogy over those any day, even though I own every Phase 1 Marvel movie except Thor (ugh).
I said in the same amount of time (8 years for each), not during the same time-frame. MCU didn't even exist in 04.

I also wasn't comparing the two, just noting that even though WB had a good thing going with Bats, they completely squandered the rest of their character catalogue. Until deciding to start the wretched DCFU.

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I said in the same amount of time (8 years for each), not during the same time-frame. MCU didn't even exist in 04.

I also wasn't comparing the two, just noting that even though WB had a good thing going with Bats, they completely squandered the rest of their character catalogue. Until deciding to start the wretched DFCU.
Oh, sorry. The chronological/length of time comparison wasn't evident.
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Me too. I mean, I wouldn't take the entirety of the MCU over the Nolan trilogy, but I'd certainly take it over Iron Man 1 and Avengers.
How would you feel if we had a Nolan-styled TMNT film trilogy?
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Old 11-08-2016, 03:37 PM   #17
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Good lord, I've just about lost all interest in these kind of conversations. What's done is done now and we're all just wasting our breath circle-jerking with each other over "Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda" in regards to the previous movies. Wonder Woman looks like it's gonna be awesome, and I enjoyed Suicide Squad for what it was, so I'm gonna stay optimistic on this.
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How would you feel if we had a Nolan-styled TMNT film trilogy?
Like I'd died and gone to heaven. Or possibly woken up in a parallel universe.
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Like I'd died and gone to heaven. Or possibly woken up in a parallel universe.
We can never have good things like that. But yeah... imagine if, instead of Batman, Nolan grew up reading Mirage TMNT.

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Good lord, I've just about lost all interest in these kind of conversations.
That's great news! Show yourself out of them, then.
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We can never have good things like that. But yeah... imagine if, instead of Batman, Nolan grew up reading Mirage TMNT.
You're breaking my heart, Andrew...

I really do feel like we're long past the point where ANYONE could successfully respin TMNT as anything other than a lowest common denominator kiddie toy commercial.
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