Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Couple of people I know who've seen it, said the first 2/3 are a bit meh (and they can see where the rewrites and edits have probably gone on), and last 1/3 (I guess the "epic" bit) is proper, full on Star Wars and worth paying the money for. Guess I'll see for myself on Sunday!

I can back that up. Second act is horrendous. Nearly killed the movie for me, but the third act made it the best SW prequel we've had.

It's also better than The Force Awakens, it told an original story that was tightly interwoven with the prominent beats of the mythology. This is how you repurpose New Hope for the next generation and get away with it Abrams.

Oh, and

Spoiler:

Expect a lot of CGI Peter Cushing. More than what I thought I'd be getting...they use the same methods on Carrie Fisher at the end

And yes, Vader's scenes are WELL worth the price of admission. You will not believe how

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close he is to succeeding. It's sheer luck that gives us hope in the end

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I really wish they'd stop releasing Star Wars movies close to Christmas. I didn't see Episode 7 until the middle of January and it'll probably be the same with this one. No way am I going to attend a busy theater packed with screaming kids and adults to see Star Wars before the holidays.

Once again, literally no one gives a f*ck when you see a movie.

[TigerClaw]

I think it's smart to release Star Wars movies in December, Cause there aren't any big tentpole movies competing against it, It would guarantee huge box office, since it would go against smaller movies which are normally reserved for Oscar buzz.

If they released Star Wars during the summer, it would be overcrowded with a bunch of blockbuster summer movies also competing for the #1 spot, and Studios would **** themselves if there movie was competing against Star Wars, something that's guarantee to be the #1 movie.

[NinjaPug]

That was the Star Wars movie I've been wanting. So much better than TFA.

Perfect use of Vader.

[TigerClaw]

It's certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes at 85%
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/rog...tar_wars_story

I'm gonna see it on Saturday.

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I can back that up. Second act is horrendous. Nearly killed the movie for me, but the third act made it the best SW prequel we've had.

I'll second this. First half was all over the place and because of it, I felt the cast of characters as a whole fell kind of flat.

I still liked the movie. But needed to spend less time with people going "We need to go here to get this that does this then we do this there and then we head back..." and more character moments.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Krutch

I'll second this. First half was all over the place and because of it, I felt the cast of characters as a whole fell kind of flat.

I still liked the movie. But needed to spend less time with people going "We need to go here to get this that does this then we do this there and then we head back..." and more character moments.

I concur...on one hand, some characters not getting personal stuff did'nt drag the movie down, but relationships are still hinted at that could have dealt with more backstory...and better reaction to everything that happens to them. Seemed every potential dramatic beat went by in a string of endlessly mundane conversations

[Mayhem]

So for those who've seen it, given it's still two days away for me...

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Are the "appearances" by the old school Red and Gold Leader re-purposed lines from ANH, or newly recorded dialogue? Angus MacInnes is certainly still alive, and Drewe Henley only died in February, so there could have been enough time to get him to record new material. I saw them credited on IMDB and was curious! Also, do we get a Red 5, whom we know must die for Luke to take his place heh?!

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Seemed every potential dramatic beat went by in a string of endlessly mundane conversations

That's exactly how it felt to me as well. Considering how much time we spend with Gyn, Cassian, Bodhi... they never really left much of an impression on me. Krennick had some nice moments with characters we already know from other movies, but still, I don't think anyone will be blown away by him, either. It all felt kind of flat when action wasn't taking place.

I also noticed a few scenes and dialogue from the trailers didn't make it into the final cut, so I wonder how much impact post production had on it.

I don't know.. I've had my reservations about Star Wars movies that aren't part of the main episodes and this movie didn't do much (or any) to sway me. Again, I liked it, but it too many movies like this will quickly wash away the novelty sooner than later, in my opinion.

Re: Mayhem's questions...

Originally Posted by Mayhem

So for those who've seen it, given it's still two days away for me...

Spoiler:

Are the "appearances" by the old school Red and Gold Leader re-purposed lines from ANH, or newly recorded dialogue? Honestly, I can't remember. I think it was new, though.

Also, do we get a Red 5, whom we know must die for Luke to take his place heh?!We do

[NinjaPug]

I would also recommend reading Catalyst prior to seeing Rogue One. It really fills in a lot of the backstory with the Ersos, Saw, Tarkin and Krennic

[Zak The Neutrino]

I thought the movie was awesome. I'm putting it as my second favorite in the franchise. Although maybe a bit sku'd that I just saw it. Could settle down further in time.

I get those complaining about character development but it's not really what this movie was about. It was more aimed to be a dark war movie so I didn't really feel we needed it or needed every little detail explained.

There are places in TFA where it gets sort of boring because they went too far on character development in my opinion. This was definitely the polar opposite but I think it worked well.

[TigerClaw]

The movie made 29 million on Thursday.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...hursday-956347

[myconius]

i knew i was going to at least enjoy the movie, but ended up absolutely LOVING it!!

[snake]

Loved it! This is the star wars I want!

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Krutch

I also noticed a few scenes and dialogue from the trailers didn't make it into the final cut, so I wonder how much impact post production had on it.

It's pretty widely known that about half the movie was reshot, and Tony Gilroy reportedly walked away with 5 million dollars to do the rewrites and basically (secretly) re-direct the movie, away from Gareth. We may never know if the original was even darker, or lighter in tone.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...eshoots-951119

I'm preeeeetty sure I'm going to enjoy the film, but regardless, barring things like a Yoda movie or a Obi-Wan movies, Episode 8 and onward better stop being "Original Trilogy Greatest Hits" and start doing new and original stories. If not, SW is pretty much dead.

I actually saw a headline about Rogue One that said, "EVERYTHING A FAN WOULD WANT!" and I had horrible deja vu about that ghastly "Out of the Sewers" commercial that promised the same ("BEBOP! PIZZA! KRANG! AND F*** YOU!").

[Raph's Girl]

This is definatly one of my top fave SW films now. Wow... awesome!!

Spoiler:

I squeed when R2, 3PO, and Leia popped up.

[Shark_Blade]

Isn't it weird that it doesn't include the Star Wars theme crawl credit at the beginning?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Isn't it weird that it doesn't include the Star Wars theme crawl credit at the beginning?

No, that's fine to be reserved for the numeric ones.

Watched it. Enjoyed it. Definitely you can see that Krennic was the biggest victims of the reshoots... they definitely came back and said, "The test audiences don't care about Krennic... they want more Tarkin and Vader!" and gutted his stuff to do so.

Personally I loved what they were able to do with CGI Tarkin. Leia wasn't bad, either.

[ToTheNines]

[blindturtle02]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

This is definatly one of my top fave SW films now. Wow... awesome!!

Spoiler:

I squeed when R2, 3PO, and Leia popped up.

God yes. I have to see this thing at least two more times. I was expecting it to be a decent film, but they knocked that mother out of the park.