New Episodes In Korean (Warning Spoilers)

[NinjaMan]

Man that final Turtles vs Shredder was hype!!!!!! These two episodes were great. Best of the series. Wow! And did Raph kill Fishface? Looks like him and Bradford are dead.

[NinjaMan]

As a Leo fan glad he got the finishing blow.

[Ashwolf]

these last few episodes have turned out wicked awesome, hope it continues being awesome next season and not fall down in another pit

main thing that felt off though was how karai and shini were suddenly planning w/ the mutanimals but that offscreen hole might be filled in after the english dub airs

Originally Posted by NinjaMan

As a Leo fan glad he got the finishing blow.

same here

[TMNTInsighter]

Originally Posted by NinjaMan

As a Leo fan glad he got the finishing blow.

I assume you're talking about killing Shredder. If that's the case then yes, I'll be glad for him. It would've been fitting too if Shredder brought about his end via himself, what with all the pain he's brought upon himself (and others) with every wrong choice he's made but Leo has really suffered at this guys hands! Not just with all the beatings he's endured, but from Leo's failures to rescue Karai (Splinter's daughter & the girl he both loves and feels responsible for) from him, to what Shredder did in "Vengeance is Mine" and "The Deadly Venom", to becoming broken by him in more ways than one in "The Invasion", what happened to Splinter in that same episode & the results in "Return to New York", to "Annihilation: Earth!", and now apparently this? He deserves it.

As for the rest of the episodes (and I'm going to be talking in "ifs" since I haven't seen them yet), let's talk about the other henchmen. Baxter's apparently unmated (somehow) so there's that, Tiger Claw's going to live to see next season obviously, no one's talked about B&R, and apparently I'm hearing that Rahzar and Fishface are done for.
First of all, I'm not going to suddenly buy that Rahzar and Fishface are truly done for until I see the episodes and even the ones after that. Remember Rahzar was thrown under a train in "Super Shredder" and everyone somehow thought he was dead. So let's calm down on that and take it from an "if" perspective first.
IF this is true and Rahzar and Fishface will not be seen or heard from again, Tiger Claw has to find redemption next season! I talked about it in Fred's Alopex thread, if Tiger Claw doesn't get it next season, he should've joined these two in death (preferably at Karai's hands)! He has been given more chances to turn & has questioned if not rebuked some of Shredder's orders before, than Rahzar and Fishface have. Now, they've lacked the insight that TC has had but those two have not been given the chances to step back and reevaluate themselves and their position like TC has. If they've been offed for good with as few chances (if any) to leave the Foot as TC has, TC has to follow a different path than them. If he doesn't, what was the point in living while they didn't?

Again, I'm worried that these are all deaths for the sake of deaths, so hopefully I'll be able to see soon what makes you guys think that these are quite possibly the best episodes of the season.

[NinjaMan]

Just realized, the first time the turtles fight Shredder is on a rooftop. Their final battle is on a rooftop.

[NikitaZhukov]

Originally Posted by NinjaMan

Man that final Turtles vs Shredder was hype!!!!!! These two episodes were great. Best of the series. Wow! And did Raph kill Fishface? Looks like him and Bradford are dead.

I think Donnie killed Bebop and Rocksteady as well.

[NinjaMan]

Originally Posted by NikitaZhukov

I think Donnie killed Bebop and Rocksteady as well.

I'm starting to wonder that as well. Also anyone notice Leatherhead was back to his season 1 colors?

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Spoiler:

How many times has he been "killed off" by now?

If he comes back he gets a free Sundae

As for Splinter's death, Piccolo speaks for me at the beginning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yD_sIm-i3k

[Storm Eagle]

Originally Posted by TMNTInsighter

Brandon Auman should be hoping that someone at Nickelodeon is getting fired over this scheduling fiasco. Like I said before, if I'm one of the higher ups at Nickelodeon then I'm definitely firing someone there because of this--and it probably should have happened before this.

I agree that it sucks how Nickelodeon is spacing out the episodes, but hoping someone gets fired for it sounds like entitlement.

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Baxter returned to normal, I did not expect that.

I guess if any of them deserved to return to normal, it's Baxter. The others are just pure evil.

As final as the deaths sound though, I have a feeling that they're going to get deus ex machina'd somehow.

[Haalix]

Originally Posted by AlZarkovski

If you want, I can give links to these series in PM.

Can I have them as well?

[shredder orokusaki]

GRRRRR!!!!!! GRRRR!!! But at LEAST..... I KILLED SPLINTER!!!! AND SOONER OR LATER ..... I will return AGAIN as ghoost or zombie or something like this. Finaly after SO MANY YEARS......I KILLED HAMATOYOSHI!! He is DEAD! Dead!!!
I took my revenge!!! I HAVE FINALY WON!!!!

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Spoiler:

Only once, in Annihilation Earth. And it was immediately reversed in the next episode as soon as the fugitoid took the turtles 6 months in the past.

If we want to be technical here, season 2 had a rather ambigious ending regarding that.

Spoiler:

That would mean three seasons in a row ended with Splinter "dying" in some way or another. I'm not saying he's still going to come back, it just can't have the right impact if the same character has already died twice before. Hell, didn't he "die" just a few episodes ago? Three times before this then.

Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki

GRRRRR!!!!!! GRRRR!!! But at LEAST..... I KILLED SPLINTER!!!! AND SOONER OR LATER ..... I will return AGAIN as ghoost or zombie or something like this. Finaly after SO MANY YEARS......I KILLED HAMATOYOSHI!! He is DEAD! Dead!!!
I took my revenge!!! I HAVE FINALY WON!!!!

Would you prefer coming back as a Shark Monster, a Demon with a Dragon transformation, a Computer Virus or an Utrom?

[Redworld96]

Originally Posted by NikitaZhukov

I think Donnie killed Bebop and Rocksteady as well.

2k12 Donnie avenging IDW Donnie
Tit for tat

[shredder orokusaki]

Would you prefer coming back as a Shark Monster, a Demon with a Dragon transformation, a Computer Virus or an Utrom?[/QUOTE]
A utrom because Utroms have a very advanced techology and powerful weapons that a demon will never have. I will not tell you in what form i will return iam keeping it for secret! You will see soon. Until then wait!

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by neatoman

If we want to be technical here, season 2 had a rather ambigious ending regarding that.

Spoiler:

That would mean three seasons in a row ended with Splinter "dying" in some way or another. I'm not saying he's still going to come back, it just can't have the right impact if the same character has already died twice before. Hell, didn't he "die" just a few episodes ago? Three times before this then.

No, he didn't die at the end of season 2, the end of the episode explicitly showed Karai saving him and Splinter was breathing.

And the end of "the Super Shredder" does not count as killing Splinter off. Whereas in Annihilation Earth, we saw him getting stabbed and dead, the ending of the season 4 episode was on a cliffhanger and it was more of a "I don't know whats gonna happen" scenario than Splinter getting killed off.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

No, he didn't die at the end of season 2, the end of the episode explicitly showed Karai saving him and Splinter was breathing.

And the end of "the Super Shredder" does not count as killing Splinter off. Whereas in Annihilation Earth, we saw him getting stabbed and dead, the ending of the season 4 episode was on a cliffhanger and it was more of a "I don't know whats gonna happen" scenario than Splinter getting killed off.

Same basic idea though, all of them banked on shock value and uncertainty over wheter or not he'll make it out. The only difference here is that there's no obvious way out this time, which I guess is at least commendable (or at least that's the impression I got from the pics, haven't watched the episodes yet). It's just that they've done these fakeouts with him so many times, it would not surprise if he came back again...

... So let's have some New Year's fun with this, how could he come back this time?

1. Another time travel incident
2. Mutagen nonsense
3. Magic ressurection
4. Cloning
5. Reincarnation
6. The Norman Osborn excuse
   
7. Other

[Vicky82]

We will still see Splinter in season 5 but in memories, visions ect.

We did get a taste of it, Leo's memory seeing Splinter give him his first sword as a turtle tot and of course the vision Leo was having at the beginning of episode 26.

[TMNTInsighter]

Originally Posted by Storm Eagle

I agree that it sucks how Nickelodeon is spacing out the episodes, but hoping someone gets fired for it sounds like entitlement.

It's called a business.

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

No, he didn't die at the end of season 2, the end of the episode explicitly showed Karai saving him and Splinter was breathing.

And the end of "the Super Shredder" does not count as killing Splinter off. Whereas in Annihilation Earth, we saw him getting stabbed and dead, the ending of the season 4 episode was on a cliffhanger and it was more of a "I don't know whats gonna happen" scenario than Splinter getting killed off.

I agree, I wasn't fooled at all. AE was it, no more no less.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Same basic idea though, all of them banked on shock value and uncertainty over wheter or not he'll make it out. The only difference here is that there's no obvious way out this time, which I guess is at least commendable (or at least that's the impression I got from the pics, haven't watched the episodes yet). It's just that they've done these fakeouts with him so many times, it would not surprise if he came back again...

... So let's have some New Year's fun with this, how could he come back this time?

1. Another time travel incident
2. Mutagen nonsense
3. Magic ressurection
4. Cloning
5. Reincarnation
6. The Norman Osborn excuse
   
7. Other

I agree that they all use shock value.

However, I disagree that they all dwell on uncertainty regarding Splinter's death, atleast not all of them.

The only time it felt uncertain to me was in the ending of "The Super Shredder". All the other times coming up to this episode, it was obvious due to some cue at the end that Splinter was going to survive or come back.

This time though, he's gone for good and the turtles have to deal with it. It was kind of the point of the episode if you haven't seen it. After seeing his departure done excellently and with lots of heart in the episode, its kind of really insulting to just dismiss it as another fake-out that will be reversed via mutagen magic or something.

I think Nick brilliantly approached this arc. First, the turtles had to deal with Splinter's absence, albeit knowing he would survive (farm house arc). Then, they actually lost Splinter, but knew they could bring him back (space arc). This time however, he's gone for good, and they have to live their lives dealing with his permanent departure, a crucial part of growing up which the turtles have done throughout the course of the series.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki

GRRRRR!!!!!! GRRRR!!! But at LEAST..... I KILLED SPLINTER!!!! AND SOONER OR LATER ..... I will return AGAIN as ghoost or zombie or something like this. Finaly after SO MANY YEARS......I KILLED HAMATOYOSHI!! He is DEAD! Dead!!!
I took my revenge!!! I HAVE FINALY WON!!!!

Shredder is dead.
You were able to type this, meaning you are not dead.
Therefore you are not Shredder.